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Skyhound Solbrave
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:03:00 -
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This is the million ISK question that NOT A SINGLE Anti-logi supporter has been able to give a good answer to. The discussions always seem to go like this:
Anti-logi guy: Nerf the Logis!
Me: Why do Logis need to be nerfed?
Anti-logi guy: Because people are using the Caldari logi suit as an assault suit!
Me: Then why don't they just nerf the Caldari Logi suit?
Anti-logi guy: No, my problem isn't with the Caldari suit. The entire class has to be nerfed so they can only use sidearms.
Me: Why does the entire class need to be nerfed?
Anti-logi #2: NERF THE LOGIS!!!
Anti-logi #1: EXACTLY! NERF THE LOGIS!
Me: lolwut?
It is mind boggling how that one question is either completely ignored or shuts down all Anti-logi talk. I honestly don't even expect them to answer this thread, but I want CCP to realize that their "suggestions" should be ignored and they should find a more reasonable alternative.
Here are some alternatives:
Wait for the scrambler rifle to become the Cal Logis natural predator.
Stacking penalties on dropsuit modules
Switch the caldari Logis bonus with the assault/buff the Assaults in general
Limit the Caldari logi and ONLY the Caldari Logi to a sidearm, their shields can take getting into smg range.
Logis are already a huge SP sink, it takes 2 mil to get the most basic of any race. The other racial suits can barely touch the assaults, even the Amarr that is supposed to be a Logi with some Assault qualities. Don't make three+ roles completely unplayable. |
Skyhound Solbrave
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Posted - 2013.05.12 19:23:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Because they're better than assault suits are at their own job. That surely wasn't worth a million isk?
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Because the caldari logistics is not the only problem, its all four of them being > assaults.
Wow, and I honestly believed you would be good for the CPM. Can you explain how the minmatar or gallente suite are better assaults? The Minmatar is basically wet paper in front of anything and the gallente could at best be equipped with armor plates which would make them slow as all hell. The only one you could make a case for is the Amarr logi. However, the Amarr Logi was designed to be logistics with a side of assault. It still has less HP and pg than the Amarr assault. Not to mention they have one less equipment slot.
So please tell me who exactly is using the other three suits as assaults. Don't tell me you actually believe our only purpose as Logis are to be your butlers on the battlefield? |
Skyhound Solbrave
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:09:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:
This. ur bias is showing when you make this argument. u also lose credibility. logis now have their specialty as no other class gets more than 1 equip slot. there's no reason to go assault when logis will have more slots and equip than you. logis need less high and low than assaults of the same class. now those of you who want to stack damage & shield mods and use it like an uber assault wont like this but no reasonable person would argue it.
proto caldari logi should be 3/2 with 3 equip slots
Are you blind or just too thick to realize what you, yourself are typing? Here, let me point it out for you:
Quote:proto caldari logi should be 3/2 with 3 equip slots
The caldari logi is the problem. Not the entire class. The Logis have always had more equip slots than the anyone but it was never a problem before. Again, just buff one of the assault suits with an equip slot, give them a damage boost, or just give the caldari logi a sidearm. No reason to carpet bomb the entire class. |
Skyhound Solbrave
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Posted - 2013.05.12 22:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cosgar wrote:I use the Minmatar logi and the bottom line is if they nerf the entire logistics class just because the Caldari (which the scrambler rifle was designed for) doesn't have a sustainable effective counter yet and the assault bonuses pale in comparison, I quit. Nerfing an entire class before an actual meta game can take place and adjusting the other suits is a sign of laziness as a developer and my time and money would be better spent somewhere else. I am just saying once the scrambler rifle forces the caldari logi to fall out of favor most people will be swapping to the gallente logistics to meet thier needs.
How? Armor plates are a lot different than shield enhancers. If the gallente logi were to load up with them, it would be as slow or slower than a heavy. The caldari logi is only popular because the shield enhancers have no downside. So assault players just take a small hit to their speed for awesome shields, there is no way they would just switch over to gallente.
Though of course just ignore the facts and ignore the numbers. That's what the CPM does right, represent the vocal minority? You invent these wonder Logis using minmatar suits to pubstomp proto assault players in your head to rationalize this witch hunt. The CPM does not represent the dust community at all, just their own views. |
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