DOUBLE DROPSHIP HPS end of discussion... i dont have to explain myself take a look at your forums, its littered with rants etc..

DROPSHIPS are outmatched in nearly every single form of engagement on this game.. from the lonely sniper to the ASSAULT FORGE GUN

even small arms fire has the potential to shootdown A DROPSHIP if not take out the gunner rendering the air platform completly useless

IM BEGGING YOU CCP it would definatly enhance the gameplay experiance for the players that dont actually get to kill anything^

half PRICE double HPS



WHOS WITH ME!!!

petition OPEN!

like if you agree :)

And here's an interesting fact, an onikuma(free LAV) has under the new HP buff, 93 more base shield than the python, and only 274 less armour, yes on base stats the free shield LAV is only 181 HP weaker than the 690k ADS.

Dropships: working as intended

The Scout LAVs will now have less HP than Militia LAVs.

Anything that can fly in the air should always have less defense than things that move on the ground. This is the price you pay to be in the air... otherwise you might as well put wings on my tanks.

This is why you pay so much to have a flying vehicle that has more defense than a free non flying one.

Ok so i read that CCP know about the turret problems also they have an issue with the weight of HAV it seems it got switched so Shield HAV have the weight of armour and are really slow acceleration. Armour have the weight of shield and are really quick acceleration. Glad this was a broken mechanic and not intended.

From what I understand.... speed WAS a broken mechanic and now fixed... Armour slows armour down, that's why it's supposed to be faster. Two tanks raced today and they were pretty much even. Haven't noticed any major acceleration buff to armour.

As a former LAV driver, I would like to make a suggestion:

Remove FREE LAVs

Why?

This game should be about consequences and investment...

Players currently use the free LAV to get easy kills by running people over or as a transport without any investment. Heavies use the free LAV to negate their main weakness, their mobility and lack of speed, without any investment of ISK or SP at all.

Yes, these things are useful to infantry, but they are not necessary to play as infantry. These are extra advantages and because of that, they should have a cost.

The pervasiveness of the free LAV has also caused players in better LAV's to become ignored and irrelevant, nobody wants to gun in them because players assume that LAV's are ineffective at killing and fragile. Nobody has to depend on an LAV driver because everybody can get their own for free- it dilutes the teamwork of the game. Players in free LAV's also drive them like they don't care and they crash them into people who actually paid ISK for their own better LAV.

Thanks for reading.

Hi guys, let me provide you guys with provide some feedback on this topic.

1. We are looking at doing re-balancing of our AV weapons. One of the topics, which also seems to be showing through on this thread is to keep a decently long enough range on the forge gun, but also look at the damage decay variable over time on it, optimal ranges, etc. Because agreed, that it is a very potent anti-vehicle weapon and it's not exactly something that is easily countered with countermeasures (see next point). We also don't want the forge gun to be nerfed to the point of feeling ineffective, so a direct reduction of damage output across the board is not going to be the simple answer there.

2. We are also want to get countermeasures in soon, as well as a lock-on warning system for players piloting vehicles that have been locked on to. The lock-on indication will be a graduated indicator so that you will have a decent idea of how imminent your time to impact is and can choose to act accordingly. Furthermore, we're also working on porting lock-on to a certain subset of turrets. This will come in helpful for dropship pilots who are engaged in dogfights, or supporting assaults against ground units.

3. As one of our immediate tasks, we want to look at how we can provide dropship pilots with more chances to earn WP. We have lots of ideas in mind, however we need to tread carefully on this one so that we're not opening up too many opportunities for exploit. Some of the ideas that are bouncing around are providing WP for players spawned into your craft, WP for use of active scanners (possibly more specialized ones), and finding a way to re-introduce WP for remote repairs without exploit.

4. We will be reducing the ISK cost of dropships so that players can get into them more easily, while also looking at the overall skill cost of this class of vehicle.

5. Lastly, we're aware of turret issues that have come up. Many of the improvements needed will require code support to fix lingering bugs as well as further flesh out existing systems. We are currently working on this as our next set of code fixes.

3. As one of our immediate tasks, we want to look at how we can provide dropship pilots with more chances to earn WP. We have lots of ideas in mind, however we need to tread carefully on this one so that we're not opening up too many opportunities for exploit. Some of the ideas that are bouncing around are providing WP for players spawned into your craft, WP for use of active scanners (possibly more specialized ones), and finding a way to re-introduce WP for remote repairs without exploit.

4. We will be reducing the ISK cost of dropships so that players can get into them more easily, while also looking at the overall skill cost of this class of vehicle.

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And like it was said 3 posts above, please just remove free LAVs, free vehicles do not belong in DUST. It's not that hard to skill into them if you want one, and would make transport dropships just that much more relevant.

No do not remove free LAV's and in fact there should be a free version of every vehicle.

Free Dropships, Tanks, Jets, and all future vehicles should have a free version.

If a person likes them then they can decide to skill further into them, just like the dropsuite classes.

What could go wrong!

What couldn't is the basic answer.

Your no fun!

Sissy La La.

I forget the name of the build, but you're giving me horrible flashbacks; free vehicles...free vehicles everywhere....

LAV's tend to do well, me and bono the mighty/hunter junko used to cruise around in bojos attack methana fit last build, we regularly hit 700-800wp each a match, cause they were closer to the ground they had the advantage of cover, and you get the whole road kill thing too. Still haven't tried it out this build so I don't know how things would turn out.

Free LAVs make the sky a VERY dangerous place to be.

The moment I start shooting at infantry they start spamming LAVs and the sky fills with RDVs. Five or six of those and I am forced to leave the area. They are just too good a form of free AV. The user doesn't have to spend a single SP or ISK, or sacrifice a single CPU or PG point or suit slot to field the most effective anti-DS weapon in the game.

Charge for them and the players may think twice before calling in a half dozen.

LAV's tend to do well, me and bojo the mighty/hunter junko used to cruise around in bojos attack methana fit last build, we regularly hit 700-800wp each a match, cause they were closer to the ground they had the advantage of cover, and you get the whole road kill thing too. Still haven't tried it out this build so I don't know how things would turn out.