Eww boobies! Isn't that where cooties are emitted?

SO,

Blah Blah **** and stuff Blah Blah

Breasts are obviously necessary to depict a grown woman, and a different skeletal structure means that a different walk is also required. Once again you seem to be missing the point. These things aren't the issue. The issue is that all male suits are all painfully vanilla, ordinary athletic men. Meanwhile, the only way CCP seems capable of depicting a female equivalent is "**** & ass".

It troubles Kaz, myself, and many others, that this seems to be the best the gaming industry can offer. Dust's depiction of women is not comparable to the likes of Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto, or Dead Or Alive.
You only need look at the hassle the TR reboot got for trying to depict both a realistic & attractive woman to seenwhat the rest of the world thinks of this industry.
GTA is a commentary on our own society, and our own society contains such flaws.
And finally, no self-respecting male plays DOA games for the gameplay.

This has to be the dumbest thing ever.Any women that is famous ie movie star,singer has done something in the way of cosmetic surgery to her body.Some type of body modification,lipo suction,breast implants,no jobs ,face lifts,eye wrinkle removing.It has nothing to do with sexism at all.It has to do with what is aesthetically pleasing to the eye.For all of you who look down at CCP's scout as sexism you need to watch GI Jane again.When Demi Moore is working out.Look at her body.That is what the female form looks like when its devoted to exercise and physical conditioning.Am I wrong to find that appealing?I think not.The OP needs to get real.
Weather thick,chubby,short,or tall.I love all women....BECAUSE they're effeminate and feminine.

*wonders if im the only RL girl who has posted thoughts on this....*

*wonders if im the only RL girl who has posted thoughts on this....*

*wonders if im the only RL girl who has posted thoughts on this....*

After reading and posting in this thread I went online and googled and searched pics of the Olympic women contenders.

These female avatars are depicted rather well as women, outside of the walk which looks like either their suits are to tight or they have a stick in their butts. lol.

These women have slender frames, a basic hour glass shape, decent size breast, decent sized rears, rather thicker shoulders for your average woman(which is usually a sign of athleticism). They actually look some what athletic. At a runners/stamina stand point these women by their virtual look and my own experience as a runner look like they could smoke probably at least 85% of the people playing in this beta.

I was contemplating on this thread and games over doing women's sexual physical identities. CCP had two roads to take in the category of the female body. They could have gone the over athletic female figure which as an athlete I can tell you is a very hard body type to achieve, and most who try cannot get there just do to body style and genetics. Which is sexiest in itself because this promotes the same feelings as a Barbie. I can't look like that and I should look like that or I am not pretty.

Or they could have taken the road that they have taken the cross between athleticism and general average women. In the Gallente suit the avatars body is more noticable, but if you look she does not have a completely flat stomach she actually has a stomach that is there not in a completely wash board abs style. Good sized breast a good sized rear, but they are not over done they are on the average size. Which the women who can never achieve this shape will fill the same way as the category before.

Then they could have taken the third route which does not put women into the game at all. This again is sexist, because it promotes the thought that women are not competent enough to perform on the battle field.

So in conclusion of the choices where would you have like them to have gone with this game. Which route would you have taken. All are sexiest in there own right by your definition of over sexualizing women. I feel that CCP has taken the middle road with this everyone was not going to be happy you can't make them all happy if you try you will only go mad.

On a final note towards the game listed, I am a self respecting man and I loved DOA it is by far one of the most complicated and hardcore fighting games ever made. The combos, counters, grab, and counter grabs are so advanced and responsive that if performed by an advanced players can go on for 15 to 20 seconds before someone even deals damage. These women were oversexualized but was looked past by me and many others(not payed any attention to when you are trying not to lose)do to the complexity and the large amount of skill needed to even be good at this game. These games are still mocked and laughed at due to the way they depict women, even given how good of a game it was by women, men, and gamers alike to this day.

Why does this thread exist?

...my brain...

I have come to notice that the OP and Chunky have managed to grab the trolling posts and use selective reading whenever they read someone's post that uses some tact in there comments(by this I mean they interpret what they want out of the post).

After reading and posting in this thread I went online and googled and searched pics of the Olympic women contenders. During competitions and off of the field. I have to say after doing some research that a lot of those women have good sized breast rather large butts that would look good in a gallente scout suit. Now most of them don't have large hips, do to hip size usually being the first to fall off when you get into good shape and you can't really tell how they walk from still shots. So as far as it goes out side of there walk and their shoes which could be used as women are generally shorter and they need to be as tall as the men so just pump them up a little(for games hit box sake), or just make the a little bit girly. I think CCP has done a pretty good job of capturing women as a whole in this video game where a particular type of woman is need to fill the roles that we are playing.

As stated the OP was trying to ask and confront those about the way they feel about the game, but after people started posting with some respect and some without bout how they feel he left. Chunky has come in to take over on the for front, but has managed to grab troll post and interpret what he/she wants out of people's comments and make snide comments towards that person. I have not offended you or assumed anything in your direction, but you Chunky have attacked and tried to troll/offend me twice. Both times I have come back with respectful answers to you assumptions explaining my side, and both times you have left my comments alone. I find this rather hilarious for someone looking for a debate which you clearly are by your use of words and tact. You two(OP and Chunky) have not brought anything to the table that has not already been posted in the first post by the OP. Where most people who have tried to debate you have brought mutiple, yet you do the same to them. Troll them through misinterpretation or leave their comments alone when you have nothing to return fire with.

For someone looking to debate you my friend have failed, and I hope that this thread dies along with your attempts to debate those who oppose you. I will still be here reading to see if anything new comes up on you two's side which I doubt it will.

This was not an attack on your free time I do understand the days that this thread is taking place in and that family comes first if you do have anything else to add please do it after your RL things are taking care of.

Family first it is SC's way don't believe it come read it for yourself.

Happy Holidays.
Dover.

This has to be the dumbest thing ever.Any women that is famous ie movie star,singer has done something in the way of cosmetic surgery to her body.Some type of body modification,lipo suction,breast implants,no jobs ,face lifts,eye wrinkle removing.It has nothing to do with sexism at all.It has to do with what is aesthetically pleasing to the eye.For all of you who look down at CCP's scout as sexism you need to watch GI Jane again.When Demi Moore is working out.Look at her body.That is what the female form looks like when its devoted to exercise and physical conditioning.Am I wrong to find that appealing?I think not.The OP needs to get real.
Weather thick,chubby,short,or tall.I love all women....BECAUSE they're effeminate and feminine.

Unless all the women in your life are regulars in Maxim, I think you need to reassess what you think is typical/average for a woman.
Everything else you said doesn't even deserve a response.

The view you hold is exactly the problem the OP was concerned about. You've used a hollywood actress as an example of a realistic woman.
As for your comments on cosmetic surgery, I'm genuinely stunned. Surely it demonstrates the opposing position to the one you expressed?

True but Demi Moore's breast are not real. So that is not exactly what a body would look like but it is really close and spot on depending on the breast size of the woman who is in this kind of shape(And they vary we all know that).

We know what people do to be appetizing to the eye in the world of media. The problem with this is Dust should not be trying to make the women of this game sexually appetizing. They should look like they are here to do the same job as their male counter parts, with respect to the background story of Dust and EvE. Which most of the people who have posted their opinions feel that they have already achieved this.

Me included outside of that god awful walk.

Still surprised this thread isn't dead? Why do you want it dead in the first place? Do your problems usually go away when you ignore them? Obviously this topic hits a nerve, which kinda means we should talk about it.

And a big thank you to Chunky Munkey for a willingness to wade through the trolls!

I know dude. It just doesn't die already.

I agree this thread will not die. Chunky and I will not let it until we have agreed, or CCP locks it.

Goat... he's never going to agree with you.

We've finished with the dead horse and have moved on to the cute baby seals.

I let out a sigh of relief when this thread disappears from the front page, and then it reappear AGAIN. It's like forum herpes.