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Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 16:07:00 - [1] - Quote I agree that the female body is often used by the media to sell products or services for profit that some women would view the female characters in video games as an attempt of objectifying women. Take a look at Cortana from Halo, Lora Croft from the Tomb Raider games, Hatsune Miku from Vocaloid, Mass Effect, etc. However, there is another point to be made. What about objectifying men? Very often I see male characters being objectified the same way. Have you noticed the bulge in the male scout suit and how sculptured the body is? They don't even hide the butt. Then there is Borderlands with the well built male bodies, Final Fantasy games with men that look sooooooo perfect (sometimes even Jersey Shore like), and then there are the Halo 4 Spartan Ops where you see cut scenes with men that are so muscular that women would want to have sex with them through the TV screen. As you can see, objectification is now on both sides in modern times. Back then, it was quite one sided and people objectified women more often. Now its equal across the board. Of course, this seems to be part of the growing trend that men and women are seeking to look perfect to others.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 17:36:00 - [2] - Quote Overall I don't think this is an issue at all considering that the men and women in the media are complicit with the whole thing. Think about it. Why do women act the way they act in soap operas? Why do women dress and pose the way they do in magazines? Why do women cosplay (sexually) the way they do in gaming and anime conventions? I have seen plenty of women do that in conventions. A friend of mine told me he saw a hot girl dressed in nothing more than a special kind of body latex paint to cosplay as an anime character. And I was thinking to myself... "wow, I never expected to see so many women who are willfully complicit with the whole concept of how the ideal woman would look like". I see the same thing with men who in Men's Health Magazine, People Magazine, Time Magazine, films, TV shows, etc. in which men are complicit with the concept of how the ideal man would look like. None of these willing participants were forced into doing what they do. They do it because they find that they are good at it or it makes them money or brings them fame. This is why I don't see the sexualization of men and women as an issue anymore because everyone is in on it. What's the point of going to church to confess your sins if you have nothing to confess?
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 17:45:00 - [3] - Quote In terms of how we are genetically born and evolved in real life, I agree that women are technically weaker than men. Women do have the option of building themselves up body wise through rigorous exercise and hormone treatments. But those efforts hardly change anything in the woman's genes unless... 1. Every man wants to start doing it with muscular women like Spartans did. Keep in mind that Spartan women were raised to be equally tough as well. It was believed that only a Spartan woman can give birth to REAL men. That's how tough Spartan women were. or 2. Scientists figure out how to manipulate the genes of a women to make them equally strong as men while still retaining their beauty (maybe in 500 years).
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 17:56:00 - [4] - Quote 1CLIP 1KILL wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Why do women cosplay (sexually) the way they do in gaming and anime conventions? I have seen plenty of women do that in conventions. oooookaaay ... I wouldn't have gone with anime conventions, I would have gone with the hot girls @ clubs (like Vegas/NYC) who just wear paint. I like paint. Search your feelings, Luke. You know it to be true.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 17:57:00 - [5] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Women being merc doesn't even make sense - our weapons are so powerful it kills people without our armor who uses it - yet a girl can wield it fine. I would think female armors would have physical enhancers to them or would be required of them to be able to hold there weapons. But let's focus on there breast sizes instead and how they walk. <3 these forums In Dust 514, it does make sense. Just say that the female clone bodies are genetically enhanced the same way as the male clones.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 18:09:00 - [6] - Quote Guys, girls, guys, erm... whoever... please let's not call each other names here. We don't want this thread to be locked over name calling. After all I don't think the OP was trying to come across as ignorant or arrogant here. He, just like all of us here, have a valid point. Though disagreements arise, we should respect each other here.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 18:11:00 - [7] - Quote @Iron Wolf That's nothing from Terra. You should see Bayonetta. Hell of a strip show that game is.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 18:39:00 - [8] - Quote crazy space wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: @Iron Wolf That's nothing from Terra. You should see Bayonetta. Hell of a strip show that game is. Guess what, girls love that game, fyi My girlfriend likes the character. She even likes her glasses.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 19:31:00 - [9] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: The argument that "this is what the perfect woman looks like" is both the most common, and the most sexist I've seen in this thread. It is made all the worse for the fact that most of the folk who use it don't realise just how bad it is. What about "this is what the perfect man looks like"? Remember, women are not the only ones being sexualized in video games here. Play Halo, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Eve Online, World of Warcraft, etc. Male characters are equally treated the same way. And it's not limited to games either. Films, drawings, magazines, statues, etc. The point is people are complicit with the whole concept of seeking to look better or showing it off through art or movies. Does that make it right when everyone else is doing it? No. But it doesn't mean I have any right to tell a man or woman how to portray themselves if I think it's sexist.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.23 21:15:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Calm down Jenza he isn't work the isk. May I suggest stabbing him? hey Hey Hey HEY HEY! No stealing my ideas!

Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.24 04:02:00 - [11] - Quote Well, this thread went down like the Titanic.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.26 12:47:00 - [12] - Quote MItt R0mney wrote: Why does this thread exist? ...my brain... I know dude. It just doesn't die already.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.28 13:35:00 - [13] - Quote Laurent, According to CCP the hit box for both male and female models are exactly the same size. You just get the illusion that it's smaller.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.28 13:38:00 - [14] - Quote Seriously, 17 pages and we are still debating this? This dead horse should be allowed to decay already.

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