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Friendly Woodsman
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Posted - 2012.12.23 18:25:00 -
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wow...where is the "dislike" button? OP raises a valid point about the over-sexualization and objectification of women in video games in general and DUST in particular, and pretty much the only response he gets for his trouble is an angry wall of text. I'm not surprised, really, since forums have trolls the way water has wet, but you people had my palm touching my face when I was reading through this thread.
I agree that DUST isn't as bad as some games, but that doesn't make it okay. I agree that society at large sucks on this issue, and that changing the world is hard, and world peace is...oh god, just stop! Yeah, maybe you, all by yourself, would have a difficult time influencing the "hearts and minds" of your fellow countrymen, or whatever, but you do have a pretty outsized influence on the direction of this game. The developers of this game did, after all, ask us to join these forums for the express purpose of influencing their thoughts on the current and future direction of the development of DUST.
We, as a playerbase, and testers of this beta, asked CCP to put female avatars into the game, and we can just as easily ask that they be the first developers to buck the trend in video games by NOT following the herd on the over-sexualization of women.
Nerf the hip-sway! Nerf the breast size! ...or build in complete customization. That would be cool with me. |
Friendly Woodsman
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Posted - 2012.12.25 16:22:00 -
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There is a point that has not fully been raised here. The wider public perception of video games and gamer culture is very negative. There is a level of casual misogyny in gamer culture, and even on these forums, that varies from the disappointing to that which is downright chilling to behold. There is also a problem with overt homophobia and expressions of racism that range from the blatant to the not-so-ironic, but we don't have to go there right now. Video games and gamer culture have a PR problem, and if you don't believe me, then you've never been over 23 and telling people that one of your more cherished hobbies is video gaming.
Honestly though, why should you care? You're just here to play a game, right? You're just here to play a game that is going to need a broad base of players from many different time zones, right? You're just here to play a game that is going to need a lot of people playing in order for it to truly reach it's potential, right? You're just here to play an MMO at a point in time in which most MMOs are struggling to maintain their player-base whilst also struggling against the wider perception that gaming is the last bastion of the juvenile misogynist, right?
If you truly do not care, fine. There are places where we can talk about the mechanics of the gun game or whatever it is that you DO care about, but don't pretend that this isn't an issue worth being discussed at all levels of the gaming community. Don't pretend that the beta forums for a game are the wrong place to have this discussion, when they are actually the perfect place for it. This thread is being or will be read by a Dev, and our words cary weight. This is the place where we say that the artist(s) who put heels on a combat mercenary should not be proud of themselves. This is the place to say whether or not you want a game that stands out from the rest. Personally, I want a game I can point to that is complex, fun, AND intelligent enough to avoid the trend of casual sexism in gaming.
Is Dust bad in this regard? No, but it won't exist in a vacum, either, and games that buck trends tend to get talked about. |
Friendly Woodsman
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Posted - 2012.12.26 13:14:00 -
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Still surprised this thread isn't dead? Why do you want it dead in the first place? Do your problems usually go away when you ignore them? Obviously this topic hits a nerve, which kinda means we should talk about it.
And a big thank you to Chunky Munkey for a willingness to wade through the trolls! |
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