It's not that the female suits are just the usual embarrassing gamer fan service made by guys for guys (although they are), it's that female players aren't given a choice. Be a ridiculously sexualised clone, limit your choices of dropsuit, or be a man.

The only person who really gains anything from this is the hypothetical idiot teenage gamer who really does get hype about a metallic ass swinging around wildly, and **** that guy.

I find this thread to be far beyond the point in which most of the people playing this game would like to think. I on the other hand will debate your points and the statements of others.

Yes this game sexualizes women, but it does the same thing to men. The argument of the game is, we are using genetically enhanced men and women. You have to think of this universe as a spartan world, in which anyone at birth that seemed week was cast from a mountain to their death as an infant. This is the universe that you play in. So for men to be designed the way they are makes sense they must be strong and alpha, they are beyond fit and probably taking muscular enhancers. So the way they are designed makes sense. You may not like it, but it is CCP's universe that they have created, set into motion, and made the vastly large and differentiating back ground stories. From slavery to an over zealous religious worlds. These are worlds made by people with their own views and beliefs but by no means does that mean if you are uncomfortable here should you play this game.

Now as far as women go it sits almost in the same place. These are clones that are created in the same manner. So yes their parts will be overly defined in the same manner as the men are. They also enhanced as well. When you enhance a woman to make them stronger they usually take on a masculine aspect , one that most women would not like to be portrayed as. So in a sense CCP has tried to find a middle ground in which fits their own story and fits the personal views of the women who would like to play this game. Yes I am aware that not all women would like to be portrayed in this manner. But women have breast and as the world goes they are not getting any smaller, and if you increase hormones into a women's body these parts get larger by nature. Again these hormones are used in this world for women and men so they are going to have large breast. Now the sway cannot be defined by any back ground info of the game, but I would like you to take a survey and see which women want to walk like a man and which ones would like to have swagger. The boots are more than likely there also because CCP is trying to make the women happy in this game. I also feel that is is overdone and the military does not issue different boots to women than they do men. But given the statement earlier about armor they might want to look into armor that is more designed for women's body style. Which in turn might give them a more female look. That is to be determined.

As for you fight against the way we are portrayed, you might want to center it on both male and females because we are both stereotyped on this game. Men just have a logical and proven reason for looking and walking the way we do. Yet the way women walk and are their boots has more to do with the way they want to see themselves and the way society would like them to look. Their armor and their physic has logical and proven reasons for looking the way they do. The truth of the matter is if this is how a woman wants to look it is none of you business how they look as long as they are respectable in a public manner then it should not matter to you.

I as a person am very liberal and how you choose to act or portray yourself in a private setting is your own choice. I also feel that there is an amount of respect that should be put out for yourself and those around you when you are in public, given the setting in which you are in. My wife, mother, sister, and many of my female friends are very sexual and have a crude and no holds bar verbal personality. It is no way my right to tell them this is wrong and that they should not act or be this way as long as they hold a respectable manner when one is in the situation that this should be done.

You should complain how the men are tall and well built, with an even and powerful frame.

It's wrong to want "perfection" in "perfect" combat clones, am I right?

And don't finish with an ad hominem, those reliably say more about you than them.

Do you have even the slightest idea how hard you just failed?

Dear Chunky Munkey,

Lets all calm down and all agree that Kazeno Rannaa's ideal woman (should he ever find one) will be flat of chest, small of hips with absolutely no sway to her hips and will dress in nothing but turtle necks and jeans. Because anything more seems to be an unrealistic and over sexualised view of women.

Once again I still fail to see what alot of people are complaining about. Go to your local shopping centers, spend at even a minute looking around and I guarantee you will within seconds find a girl dressed far more provacatively than this. If you find many women doing it then I have a feeling that oh I dunno... maybe that women dress that way in this day and age. Look at half the damn shows on TV they have women dress far more provacatively. You'll find a dropsuit that just follows a normal womans curves and the fact she has a very hip swaying walk is the least of your concerns.

Worry about something that matters like the mothers dragging around their toddlers in miniskirts, knee high boots and fur jackets. How do you think they'll grow up? I worry more about real life things than oh that girl in this game looks way too sexualised despite the fact I can't even tell it's a female suit when I'm too busy shooting in the game to even notice until I go to Tbag her corpse.

Miss the point? You're the one making to much out of it, read again, my point is clear, You're saying that Dust women are oversexualised, my point is that look around, real life, women these days dress alot more provacatively for you to call this oversexualised compared to everyday life, TV, and other games in general is a joke.

You have mistaken my comment on perfection as one of looks. My perfection model was one based on the ability to do the job of a merc.