I think the question here is exactly related to this ^

Is this what we have here a representation of a ideal/ perfect woman? And the implications of that viewpoint into things like;
If I'm not like that, then should I try to be more like that?
If that figure is what is perfect/desireable and I'm not like that, then I'm not perfect/desireable?

But anyhows.... This is just game, a entertainment. We each pass on time doing/looking vierd things to pass out time and entertain our self.

These female avatars are depicted rather well as women, outside of the walk which looks like either their suits are to tight or they have a stick in their butts. lol.

These women have slender frames, a basic hour glass shape, decent size breast, decent sized rears, rather thicker shoulders for your average woman(which is usually a sign of athleticism). They actually look some what athletic. At a runners/stamina stand point these women by their virtual look and my own experience as a runner look like they could smoke probably at least 85% of the people playing in this beta.

I was contemplating on this thread and games over doing women's sexual physical identities. CCP had two roads to take in the category of the female body. They could have gone the over athletic female figure which as an athlete I can tell you is a very hard body type to achieve, and most who try cannot get there just do to body style and genetics. Which is sexiest in itself because this promotes the same feelings as a Barbie. I can't look like that and I should look like that or I am not pretty.

Or they could have taken the road that they have taken the cross between athleticism and general average women. In the Gallente suit the avatars body is more noticable, but if you look she does not have a completely flat stomach she actually has a stomach that is there not in a completely wash board abs style. Good sized breast a good sized rear, but they are not over done they are on the average size. Which the women who can never achieve this shape will fill the same way as the category before.

Then they could have taken the third route which does not put women into the game at all. This again is sexist, because it promotes the thought that women are not competent enough to perform on the battle field.

So in conclusion of the choices where would you have like them to have gone with this game. Which route would you have taken. All are sexiest in there own right by your definition of over sexualizing women. I feel that CCP has taken the middle road with this everyone was not going to be happy you can't make them all happy if you try you will only go mad.

On a final note towards the game listed, I am a self respecting man and I loved DOA it is by far one of the most complicated and hardcore fighting games ever made. The combos, counters, grab, and counter grabs are so advanced and responsive that if performed by an advanced players can go on for 15 to 20 seconds before someone even deals damage. These women were oversexualized but was looked past by me and many others(not payed any attention to when you are trying not to lose)do to the complexity and the large amount of skill needed to even be good at this game. These games are still mocked and laughed at due to the way they depict women, even given how good of a game it was by women, men, and gamers alike to this day.

As stated IMO DOA was the epitome of fighting games, what do you think killed.

Character customisation changes the issue entirely.

*sigh* Always one...


Look, I'm going to be honest with you here, I have never noticed the difference between the two models. At all. As I was reading the original post, I was trying to remember a time where I actually looked at the models for an extended amount of time and found that these memories don't exist, even with my female vehicle clone. Only time i've ever looked at either model for an extended amount of time is when I'm trying to figure out if that is just one big*** backpack on the back of my SVER Logibro suit.

I'm starting to wonder if I could make a case for overtly-sexualized male character models. I mean it's been going on for so long and I NEVER hear anyone talking about those. Then again, maybe I just live in an area with an abnormally low concentration of tall, buff dudes.


EDIT: In my...mental thing about fixing errors in my post, I started thinking about that backpack thing again. I'll figure it out one of these days.

No, it doesn't. The point of the suggestion is to see what real woman given the choice of how they are depicted, have chosen to depict themselves as in a virtual game. Further to get their opinion on the matter brought up. It changes nothing of the core argument.

If you can't tell the difference between the genders of assaults & logis, you're not paying attention.

And if you're too busy trying to play guess the gender with suits then they're probably killing you while you're thinking.