I find this thread to be far beyond the point in which most of the people playing this game would like to think. I on the other hand will debate your points and the statements of others.

Yes this game sexualizes women, but it does the same thing to men. The argument of the game is, we are using genetically enhanced men and women. You have to think of this universe as a spartan world, in which anyone at birth that seemed week was cast from a mountain to their death as an infant. This is the universe that you play in. So for men to be designed the way they are makes sense they must be strong and alpha, they are beyond fit and probably taking muscular enhancers. So the way they are designed makes sense. You may not like it, but it is CCP's universe that they have created, set into motion, and made the vastly large and differentiating back ground stories. From slavery to an over zealous religious worlds. These are worlds made by people with their own views and beliefs but by no means does that mean if you are uncomfortable here should you play this game.

Now as far as women go it sits almost in the same place. These are clones that are created in the same manner. So yes their parts will be overly defined in the same manner as the men are. They also enhanced as well. When you enhance a woman to make them stronger they usually take on a masculine aspect , one that most women would not like to be portrayed as. So in a sense CCP has tried to find a middle ground in which fits their own story and fits the personal views of the women who would like to play this game. Yes I am aware that not all women would like to be portrayed in this manner. But women have breast and as the world goes they are not getting any smaller, and if you increase hormones into a women's body these parts get larger by nature. Again these hormones are used in this world for women and men so they are going to have large breast. Now the sway cannot be defined by any back ground info of the game, but I would like you to take a survey and see which women want to walk like a man and which ones would like to have swagger. The boots are more than likely there also because CCP is trying to make the women happy in this game. I also feel that is is overdone and the military does not issue different boots to women than they do men. But given the statement earlier about armor they might want to look into armor that is more designed for women's body style. Which in turn might give them a more female look. That is to be determined.

As for you fight against the way we are portrayed, you might want to center it on both male and females because we are both stereotyped on this game. Men just have a logical and proven reason for looking and walking the way we do. Yet the way women walk and are their boots has more to do with the way they want to see themselves and the way society would like them to look. Their armor and their physic has logical and proven reasons for looking the way they do. The truth of the matter is if this is how a woman wants to look it is none of you business how they look as long as they are respectable in a public manner then it should not matter to you.

I as a person am very liberal and how you choose to act or portray yourself in a private setting is your own choice. I also feel that there is an amount of respect that should be put out for yourself and those around you when you are in public, given the setting in which you are in. My wife, mother, sister, and many of my female friends are very sexual and have a crude and no holds bar verbal personality. It is no way my right to tell them this is wrong and that they should not act or be this way as long as they hold a respectable manner when one is in the situation that this should be done.

If I had my way, I'd make the female models have bigger breasts and a bigger ass. It's a personal preference. I do not mind that others may want male models to have a larger phallus, or phallic bulge. Again, it's a personal preference.

Who are you to tell me what is acceptable to like?

And don't finish with an ad hominem, those reliably say more about you than them.

Do you have even the slightest idea how hard you just failed?

You've constucted quite a strawman there. Kaz was addressing the representation of women in Dust. Not glossy mags or TV ads. Neither was Kaz attempting to conduct a study on the issue.
If you're going to offer a critique of someone's position, make sure that's what you address in it.
And don't finish with an ad hominem, those reliably say more about you than them.

The argument that "this is what the perfect woman looks like" is both the most common, and the most sexist I've seen in this thread. It is made all the worse for the fact that most of the folk who use it don't realise just how bad it is.

Dear Chunky Munkey,

You didn't make any arguments in favour of the current female dropsuits.

Other types of logic not to use in a debate.

Slipperly Slope (ie: if we allow gays to marry then well be allowing people to marry animals)
Illogical Casualties (ie: if we ban guns we'll save children in china)
Illogical Analogies. (ie: His policy is like a litter box!)
Circular Logic (ie: God or Man, who invented who)

I think the females should be more realistic. They should have less prominent breasts and normal boots. They should have a weaker melee attack, less stamina and any weapon they use recoils more. One final touch of realism is that they shouldn't be fighting on the frontlines at all.

I think the females should be more realistic. They should have less prominent breasts and normal boots. They should have a weaker melee attack, less stamina and any weapon they use recoils more. One final touch of realism is that they shouldn't be fighting on the frontlines at all.

Calm down Jenza he isn't work the isk. May I suggest stabbing him?

I find it hilarious how the OP is trolling all of you with complex words that usually wouldn't be found in the average person's vocabulary. Furthermore, I find it even funnier that he's perpetuating a so-called "gender war" between all of you.

Just shut up and let CCP do the work.

Also, if you didn't realize, its all based on your race. Gallente is a western liberal nation that tends to portray women in a promiscuous fashion, whereas Amarr is a modest nation, for example like Afghanistan, and keeps their women in modest clothing. Just keep making the links.

I honestly think they should keep Samus Aran from Metroid Prime in mind when designing the female character. Or the female Spartans from Halo.

Calm down Jenza he isn't work the isk. May I suggest stabbing him?

hey Hey Hey HEY HEY!

No stealing my ideas!

I remember when people thought Samus was a guy and nobody beat metriod yet.

I think I was the first one in my class to beat it and starting telling other people about it. nobody believed me for the longest time.

Wait, the women in DUST are overtly sexualized?

lol, you must have the decency standards of the Amish.

I'm glad you have expanded your mind in college but get off your high horse you stupid prick. This is a dumb thread.



I went to university!

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I use big words to prove that I'm smart!

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I'm a giant douche!