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Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 390	Posted - 2015.07.09 20:54:00 - [721] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: How is everyone finding the Commandos to be post changes? They seem to be in a better place now Purifier. First Class.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.09 20:59:00 - [722] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: How is everyone finding the Commandos to be post changes? Having issues with fitting most, the one worst of is cal com because tbh shield mods are overcosted. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.09 22:44:00 - [723] - Quote I believe there is some consideration of giving them more fittings (it was in my proposal to CCP) once the effects of the current changes are clear. Iterative balance and all you know Glad to hear there's some progress made for them, I find my MinMando to be more useful now but I'm only one player, still very much looking for the input of others here. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.07.09 22:54:00 - [724] - Quote Need more weapon choices for cal/am. Shield recharge is atrocious. But commandos are fun as hell to run. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.10 02:06:00 - [725] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Need more weapon choices for cal/am. Shield recharge is atrocious. But commandos are fun as hell to run. That's the other thing with shield commandos, I find that most go "omg dmg mods" rather than trying to build a proper tank (which isn't possible for reasons) but I'd be hesitant to change them because I think it might still lead to "omg dmg mods" just on more survivable suits. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.07.10 05:46:00 - [726] - Quote The shield recharge needs to be fixed on the commandos. And I triple mod calmandos. But I'm aldo trying to countersnipe with them, not win any survivor awards. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.07.10 10:12:00 - [727] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: How is everyone finding the Commandos to be post changes? Running neck and neck with assaults for the most part. The only two major problems are lack of weapon variety on cal and amarr. The cal suffers solidly from craptastic shield regeneration stats. The minmatar is :okay: because of similar crap regen stats. Right now after a couple days to percolate the information, the gallente and amarr overshadow both the minmatar and caldari overall PURELY because of survivability. The raw HP is fine, but by the time cal/min commandos begin recharging an amarr or gallente commando could have already recovered upward of 100 HP and neither of the shield 'mandos breaks 20 regen/sec. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.10 11:20:00 - [728] - Quote I'm not sure why the shield regen on the shieldmandos is so hilariously low. At least it isn't 5HP/s like it used to be, lol. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
Regnier Feros Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 436	Posted - 2015.07.10 13:15:00 - [729] - Quote complex precision on my am mando 2nd high to pick up medium suits ZariaOwnsWhips
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 393	Posted - 2015.07.10 13:51:00 - [730] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: complex precision on my am mando 2nd high to pick up medium suits I thought commandos has sentinel layouts now. Purifier. First Class.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.07.11 00:28:00 - [731] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: complex precision on my am mando 2nd high to pick up medium suits I thought commandos has sentinel layouts now. Am/Gal have 2/3 Min/Cal have 3/2 WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 394	Posted - 2015.07.11 01:29:00 - [732] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Regnier Feros wrote: complex precision on my am mando 2nd high to pick up medium suits I thought commandos has sentinel layouts now. Am/Gal have 2/3 Min/Cal have 3/2 Thanks for clearing that up. Purifier. First Class.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 354	Posted - 2015.07.11 01:49:00 - [733] - Quote Tried several variations of weapons on several races, seems the meta for heavies is mostly the same, but the HMG's have altered somewhat. Speed nerf helped probably more then hurt - I can bring people down much quicker now that there strafe is more predictable, but it's made long range combat even harder with our larger hit boxes and now slower strafe speed. Dual tanking seems to be what' in for PC - use of 2 plates and 2 Fero's. Seeing heavies with 1300+ armor, definitely stacking, and very hard to kill. But with reduced strafing it means aiming with strafe was nerfed too, which made it harder for the tanking heavies to aim. So it's a formula turned worse for when 2 heavies engage and one's tanking, even if he has a logi he's likely to get out-maneuvered and then naded, as he can't escape from a timed core locus throw. And if you do decide to tank - don't use burst or boundless, the reduction to range was evil of CCP, with no ability to reach your target you'll get tapped to death, little by little. I'll always be a 4 kin cat loving heavy <3
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 394	Posted - 2015.07.11 02:42:00 - [734] - Quote Boundless HMG - CQC, confined areas Assault - open maps and areas Burst - Heavy buster Purifier. First Class.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 356	Posted - 2015.07.11 02:52:00 - [735] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Boundless HMG - CQC, confined areas Assault - open maps and areas Burst - Heavy buster sorta Basically even in CQC the AHMG does better, until Proto level. The Boundless still shreds pretty much everyone, so in consideration to proto only your list is right. But for MLT, STD, ADV, you pretty much never want to use the original HMG for any reason.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 356	Posted - 2015.07.11 02:57:00 - [736] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Need more weapon choices for cal/am. Shield recharge is atrocious. But commandos are fun as hell to run. You got a link for a chart with the current HMG numbers for all three variants?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.11 04:40:00 - [737] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Need more weapon choices for cal/am. Shield recharge is atrocious. But commandos are fun as hell to run. You got a link for a chart with the current HMG numbers for all three variants? I'd have to make it. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 358	Posted - 2015.07.11 05:24:00 - [738] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Need more weapon choices for cal/am. Shield recharge is atrocious. But commandos are fun as hell to run. You got a link for a chart with the current HMG numbers for all three variants? I'd have to make it. was afraid of that, looks like i'll be doing number crunching the old fashion way - off my PS3 :D time to put some digits where my opinion is. And figure out the curve of DPS increase mods provide per variations and meta level and then compare it to the EHP gains. Later i'm going to run some spread tests on the AHMG - it seems to have a wider spread then the other variants even though it shouldn't.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.11 06:26:00 - [739] - Quote Right now AHMG optimal is around 40. HMG is half that pretty much. Ahmg seems to apply bullets better. HMG rage nerf made em so you almost be better off with a shotty WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.11 06:50:00 - [740] - Quote I've been mucking with the burst HMG and been finding that its really hard to apply dps from its bursts, might need a tiny bit more accuracy. It feels like even when centered on target it misses a not-insignificant portion of its bullets. Or it might need to keep the spooled accuracy for longer. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 394	Posted - 2015.07.11 11:01:00 - [741] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Boundless HMG - CQC, confined areas Assault - open maps and areas Burst - Heavy buster sorta Basically even in CQC the AHMG does better, until Proto level. The Boundless still shreds pretty much everyone, so in consideration to proto only your list is right. But for MLT, STD, ADV, you pretty much never want to use the original HMG for any reason. I'd disagree. From experience I find the Base HMG does better for me CQC than the Assault, especially if it's not 1v1 or engagements in quick succession. Purifier. First Class.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.11 11:42:00 - [742] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: I'd disagree. From experience I find the Base HMG does better for me CQC than the Assault, especially if it's not 1v1 or engagements in quick succession. this is where we need the YMMV disclaimer. For me the assault is superior at all levels. This is one of those things that comes down to one thing: your playstyle. For some the HMG is beastmode. For others the AHMG is king. It comes down to your fit, personal tactics and habits. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 394	Posted - 2015.07.11 11:50:00 - [743] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: I'd disagree. From experience I find the Base HMG does better for me CQC than the Assault, especially if it's not 1v1 or engagements in quick succession. this is where we need the YMMV disclaimer. For me the assault is superior at all levels. This is one of those things that comes down to one thing: your playstyle. For some the HMG is beastmode. For others the AHMG is king. It comes down to your fit, personal tactics and habits. And a fair amount of luck. Purifier. First Class.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.11 16:23:00 - [744] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Need more weapon choices for cal/am. Shield recharge is atrocious. But commandos are fun as hell to run. You got a link for a chart with the current HMG numbers for all three variants? I'd have to make it. was afraid of that, looks like i'll be doing number crunching the old fashion way - off my PS3 :D time to put some digits where my opinion is. And figure out the curve of DPS increase mods provide per variations and meta level and then compare it to the EHP gains. Later i'm going to run some spread tests on the AHMG - it seems to have a wider spread then the other variants even though it shouldn't. Links on the first page should get you to all the changes. Just a matter of putting all those numbers together in one place. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.12 10:55:00 - [745] - Quote Been spending some time de-rusting with my alt & his amarr commando and I'm really enjoying it. If you're at long range I'll cut you down with the LR if you're at a shorter range I'll cut you up with an ASCR. Gallente commandos have been unpleasant to fight though. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 362	Posted - 2015.07.12 12:12:00 - [746] - Quote I think the assault hmg is like the breach ar.. its all about preference. I personally find them better for different engagements/maps but again all about what you like. Although there are alot more assault hmgs than before.. i used to be the only one U.U Dammm buff bringing more people I WAS INTO IT BEFORE IT WAS COOL! BUILD MORE FARMS!
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 851	Posted - 2015.07.12 12:15:00 - [747] - Quote Fristname Family name wrote: I think the assault hmg is like the breach ar.. its all about preference. I personally find them better for different engagements/maps but again all about what you like. Although there are alot more assault hmgs than before.. i used to be the only one U.U Dammm buff bringing more people I WAS INTO IT BEFORE IT WAS COOL! My feelings exactly on the scrambler family CLICK ME!!
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 362	Posted - 2015.07.12 12:19:00 - [748] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Fristname Family name wrote: I think the assault hmg is like the breach ar.. its all about preference. I personally find them better for different engagements/maps but again all about what you like. Although there are alot more assault hmgs than before.. i used to be the only one U.U Dammm buff bringing more people I WAS INTO IT BEFORE IT WAS COOL! My feelings exactly on the scrambler family I personally just like to run whats least used in the game... breach flaylock <3 BUILD MORE FARMS!
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 851	Posted - 2015.07.12 12:39:00 - [749] - Quote Fristname Family name wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Fristname Family name wrote: I think the assault hmg is like the breach ar.. its all about preference. I personally find them better for different engagements/maps but again all about what you like. Although there are alot more assault hmgs than before.. i used to be the only one U.U Dammm buff bringing more people I WAS INTO IT BEFORE IT WAS COOL! My feelings exactly on the scrambler family I personally just like to run whats least used in the game... breach flaylock <3 I once tried to run a breach shotgun on a speed sentinel, that didn't go very well CLICK ME!!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.13 11:49:00 - [750] - Quote Real speed sentinels pack knova knives. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.



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