Hmm I was under the impression you had both heavies and scouts already but that apparently isn't the case. Anyways, no matter your playstyle I'm sure you're welcome to the Bastion. More cake for us too~

I was both, but now i dont want to be, i want to be free.

Range reduction is not so much of an issue on the standard and burst HMG's as they are intended to be lethal in close quarters. The pitiful damage and/or the rapid heat build up is a problem IMO. The burst is useless if 2-3 guys are coming at you and one of them is a sentinel. The standard variant HMG is outclassed by the AHMG at any range in a face to face, blast each others face until one of you drops confrontation.

Freedom is an illusion.

So is the cake but that doesn't stop you fatties from eating it

I feel like the Heavy weapons should be divided into Heavy Anti-Personnel and Heavy Anti-Vehicle.

We have two heavy weapons right now.

The Minmatar HMG, clearly an Anti-Personnel weapon that you could argue is effective against personnel.

The Caldari Forge Gun, clearly an Anti-Vehicle weapon that you could argue is effective against vehicles.

The Caldari Forge Gun however is NOT effective against personnel as a conventional weapon. You can kill people with it, no duh, but it's not effective at all at doing that.

The Caldari deserve a heavy weapon that is efficient for Anti-Personnel battles.

I've been thinking a lot more about a gallente heavy weapon, and while I think that there's a lot of people who would desire something like a flamethrower I think something like that would be psychotically difficult to implement.

So instead what I'd like to see is something more akin to the tribes plasma mortar, crossed with a plasma cannon from the dawn of war / space marine games. Essentially I'd give it two firemodes, differentiated by charge-up times.

The first mode fires like this gameplay which is just a straight mid-range non-hitscan projectile that say, does about 500 damage, with 200 splash in a 2.5m aoe at a ~50-60 RoF. This projectile wouldn't have much 'weight' to it, and would probably travel out to about 50-60m (1second travel time?) before disappearing or contacting ground.

Then to make things interesting, I'd allow it to be charged and charging it dramatically increases damage and to a lesser extent increases splash range&dmg (so a fully charged shot would increase damage to something like say 1500, with 350splash in a 5m aoe), but it also makes the projectile heavier so you have to lob it at your target. A fully charged shot would probably look something like this bit of gameplay and while it would do much more damage, it would be about twice as heavy and a little bit slower (cutting its range to about half and requiring it to be shot upwards to achieve the same total travel distance). The charge would require about three seconds. This mode of fire could in theory be used in open areas and shot out to say, 200m if arced properly.

As for ammo in magazine, it would have maybe 9 shots in magazine but charging it would cause it to consume 3x the ammo - so you'd either get 9 uncharged shots, or three charged shots. It either fires uncharged or charged no inbetweens.

Uses modified forge-gun projectiles and... i dunno for a launcher

Thoughts?

Maybe shorten the charge on my idea but make it so it cant be held (so that short range corner peeking isn't a thing?) or it can only be held for a brief time before autofiring and seizing for a bit.

Sounds good. As for the lore bits I'd say something along the lines of it using a multi-layer charge capable of being fired in thirds or having the whole charge consumed to fire a much more volatile blast.

The Vb-7L Variant Plasma Blaster operates with a two stage charging system and features three storage chambers each containing an advanced multi-layer hybrid charge designed to fired in thirds. The weapon is also capable of consuming a full hybrid charge in order to deliver a more powerful and destructive blast capable of being used against vehicles or installations.

The standard firing mode uses only a third of each hybrid round, firing faster and supporting nine shots before requiring plasma venting and reloading but it isn't as able to build a strong magnetic containment field resulting in less range and power. Initial testing for consuming the whole hybrid charge revealed that without mandatory containment protocols some users would attempt to circumvent a stronger containment field and the plasma ball and weapon exploded upon firing usually maiming or killing the user, causing catastrophic secondary and tertiary detonations. Safety protocols were developed to prevent this and as a result the full hybrid charge is only injected after the containment field is built which caused significant gains in projectile range and garnered a longer plasma life, but resulted in a much heavier projectile.

These changes resulted in the Vb-7l Variant Plasma Blaster being colloquially dubbed the "Plasma Mortar" among the troops who most often carry it.

This'd help stop rooftop camping like Forges used to.

what are you on about? i always sit on a roof top with my forge. im never running with the scrubs on the ground they disgust me they are covered in blood and dirt fighting each other, while im killing god damm tanks and air whales with a bloody blue energy ball shooter which makes things make pretty explosions <3 i have to stand among them sometimes tho :P

back to the weapon i feel just a 2sec or maybe even 1sec delay between each stage of charge would be enough. so it goes "vrooom, (1sec) vrooooooom *slightly higher pitch*, (1sec or 2sec maybe) VROOOOOOOEEEEMMMMMMM!!!!!*higher pitch again and maybe then you have 3secs to aim it and manually shoot it or it will fire at the currently aimed spot and overheat for 3/5secs (i personally feel overheat is unnecessary whats the clip size? and reload speed gonna look like?)

oh damm i spend a few daays clicking on notifications for every thread and come back to notice some pretty sick descriptions of some hardcore things being tossed around <3 just curious did you steal a different weapon description and change it a little by any chance?

what are you on about? i always sit on a roof top with my forge. im never running with the scrubs on the ground they disgust me they are covered in blood and dirt fighting each other, while im killing god damm tanks and air whales with a bloody blue energy ball shooter which makes things make pretty explosions <3 i have to stand among them sometimes tho :P

I've been thinking a lot more about a gallente heavy weapon, and while I think that there's a lot of people who would desire something like a flamethrower I think something like that would be psychotically difficult to implement.

So instead what I'd like to see is something more akin to the tribes plasma mortar, crossed with a plasma cannon from the dawn of war / space marine games. Essentially I'd give it two firemodes, differentiated by charge-up times.

The first mode fires like this gameplay which is just a straight mid-range non-hitscan projectile that say, does about 500 damage, with 200 splash in a 2.5m aoe at a ~50-60 RoF. This projectile wouldn't have much 'weight' to it, and would probably travel out to about 50-60m (1second travel time?) before disappearing or contacting ground.

Then to make things interesting, I'd allow it to be charged and charging it dramatically increases damage and to a lesser extent increases splash range&dmg (so a fully charged shot would increase damage to something like say 1500, with 350splash in a 5m aoe), but it also makes the projectile heavier so you have to lob it at your target. A fully charged shot would probably look something like this bit of gameplay and while it would do much more damage, it would be about twice as heavy and a little bit slower (cutting its range to about half and requiring it to be shot upwards to achieve the same total travel distance). The charge would require about three seconds. This mode of fire could in theory be used in open areas and shot out to say, 200m if arced properly.

As for ammo in magazine, it would have maybe 9 shots in magazine but charging it would cause it to consume 3x the ammo - so you'd either get 9 uncharged shots, or three charged shots. It either fires uncharged or charged no inbetweens.

Uses modified forge-gun projectiles and... i dunno for a launcher

Thoughts?

Yes, much more arc but in theory you could shoot it at say about a 65degree angle and it would travel some distance upwards before falling until it impacted ground maybe 200m away?. Kind of reminds me of my days of playing gunbound & scorched earth.

The uncharged version would essentially be the bigger, meaner brother of the flaylock pistol, where the charged version is essentially a bigger *much* meaner version of a mass driver.

Plasma Mortar

Quick shots would be like a larger, slower Plasma Cannon.
Charged Shots would be true mortars.

Question: Does anything think the current dev team is capable of slightly altering the model of the Plasma Cannon and Laser Rifle?

I just want to speak up and let everyone know that we are working on really good features, that have taken a lot of effort from me and the whole team. Hence the silence.

I just wanted to say "I told you so!"

Because campers used to sit up on towers, holding shots until infantry run past, then pelting shots down and relying on the splash to kill. That's why the splash was removed.