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Fox Gaden wrote:

Was experimenting with my 3 Myofibril, 2 Kin Cat Min Sent this morning.

- I put the Quafe skin on this fit. What skin would be more appropriate than Quafe for a Sentinel jump/speed fit?

- If played correctly I think it has great potential. I ran into 3 enemy on a bridge when I was in very low armor. I thought I was dead for sure. But then I jumped over the rail and made my escape like a Scout would. Not only that, but I was fast enough to doubled back and ambush them coming through the next doorway and killed 2 of the 3.

- Very Squishy! If you play it like a normal Sentinel you might as well have empty slots. Jump and Speed only help if you use them.

- I suck at the jumping play style. I just don't have much experience using bunny hopping as a tactical approach, so while I had flashes of brilliance, I also had boat loads of FAIL! But I think that was user error. The fit seems sound for someone who can play to its strengths.

- All the Myofibrils and Kin Cats in the world won't help you when your HMG seizes up from overheating. Thinking about how to use jumping distracted me, so my heat management on my Burst HMG really sucked this morning. I wonder if it would work better with an Assault HMG?

You might consider dropping one Myo in exchange for a precision mod. I'm still playing with it myself to test out but a bit more TacNet awareness can (for me at least) really help Sentinel play.

Some of this will of course be personal taste, but I think it's something that folks will have fun with.

This morning I saw an HMG Sentinel walk into the objective slot to hack. I came around the corner behind him and since he was hacking I took an extra moment to try to line up a head shot with my burst. But he stopped hacking, and turned to engage before I even got my first shot off.

I was like "How did he know I was there?"

Maybe he had a precision mod.

Or maybe he was using a trick I sometimes use, which is to start hacking for a second or two and then turn around to see if a defender has come to prevent the hack. It is a good tactic when you are ninja hacking a point without backup. The people defending the point will show up in the first couple of seconds. If you can kill them, you should be able to get the hack in before they respawn and get back to stop you. Of course if you interrupt you hack you may be giving up an opportunity, so I normally only do it if I suspect there are defenders close by.

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Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 867	Posted - 2015.07.13 11:52:00 - [751] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Real speed sentinels pack knova knives. I suppose a big Black/Green gorilla running at you with sashimi knives is threatening CLICK ME!!
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 394	Posted - 2015.07.13 12:03:00 - [752] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Real speed sentinels pack knova knives. I suppose a big Black/Green gorilla running at you with sashimi knives is threatening Or hilarious Purifier. First Class.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.13 12:20:00 - [753] - Quote I discovered this morning that I can stack 3 Complex Myofibril Stimulants and 2 Complex Kinetic Catalyzers on an Advanced Minatar Sentinel suit. I was too frugal to use a Proto Suit for a LOL fit like this when Myofibrils first got the Jump feature, but now with the Advanced suit having the same slot layout, and apparently the right fitting balance, this could be fun! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.13 12:27:00 - [754] - Quote In other news, on my alt who only has Engineering and Electronics to 3, I discovered that with enough Power Grid and CPU Upgrades I can get 2 Complex Kinetic Catalyzers onto a Standard Gallente Sentinel suit. I played this alt quite a bit over the weekend, and am fairly happy with the Standard Gal Sent. If I play smart and am on my game I can do well. I would still like to have another 2 or 3 HP/Sec native regen, but overall, Gal Sent is a decent and versatile suit. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.13 17:20:00 - [755] - Quote Found this: The Speed Tanked Minmatar Sentinel { Small Vid } Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 366	Posted - 2015.07.15 07:48:00 - [756] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Real speed sentinels pack knova knives. I run a pair of knives on my armor plate stacked sentinel.. I get kills with them as well. BUILD MORE FARMS!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.15 12:39:00 - [757] - Quote Was experimenting with my 3 Myofibril, 2 Kin Cat Min Sent this morning. - I put the Quafe skin on this fit. What skin would be more appropriate than Quafe for a Sentinel jump/speed fit? - If played correctly I think it has great potential. I ran into 3 enemy on a bridge when I was in very low armor. I thought I was dead for sure. But then I jumped over the rail and made my escape like a Scout would. Not only that, but I was fast enough to doubled back and ambush them coming through the next doorway and killed 2 of the 3. - Very Squishy! If you play it like a normal Sentinel you might as well have empty slots. Jump and Speed only help if you use them. - I suck at the jumping play style. I just don't have much experience using bunny hopping as a tactical approach, so while I had flashes of brilliance, I also had boat loads of FAIL! But I think that was user error. The fit seems sound for someone who can play to its strengths. - All the Myofibrils and Kin Cats in the world won't help you when your HMG seizes up from overheating. Thinking about how to use jumping distracted me, so my heat management on my Burst HMG really sucked this morning. I wonder if it would work better with an Assault HMG? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:31:00 - [758] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Real speed sentinels pack knova knives. I suppose a big Black/Green gorilla running at you with sashimi knives is threatening Or hilarious I've found it to be both simultaneously. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:33:00 - [759] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Was experimenting with my 3 Myofibril, 2 Kin Cat Min Sent this morning. - I put the Quafe skin on this fit. What skin would be more appropriate than Quafe for a Sentinel jump/speed fit? - If played correctly I think it has great potential. I ran into 3 enemy on a bridge when I was in very low armor. I thought I was dead for sure. But then I jumped over the rail and made my escape like a Scout would. Not only that, but I was fast enough to doubled back and ambush them coming through the next doorway and killed 2 of the 3. - Very Squishy! If you play it like a normal Sentinel you might as well have empty slots. Jump and Speed only help if you use them. - I suck at the jumping play style. I just don't have much experience using bunny hopping as a tactical approach, so while I had flashes of brilliance, I also had boat loads of FAIL! But I think that was user error. The fit seems sound for someone who can play to its strengths. - All the Myofibrils and Kin Cats in the world won't help you when your HMG seizes up from overheating. Thinking about how to use jumping distracted me, so my heat management on my Burst HMG really sucked this morning. I wonder if it would work better with an Assault HMG? You might consider dropping one Myo in exchange for a precision mod. I'm still playing with it myself to test out but a bit more TacNet awareness can (for me at least) really help Sentinel play. Some of this will of course be personal taste, but I think it's something that folks will have fun with. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.17 01:37:00 - [760] - Quote For my heavy comrades who are thinking about the election, here, is some background on how I CPM. If you like what you see I'd be happy for your support in getting a seat on CPM 2. I don't want to pull things off topic however so if any of you folks have questions let's focus them over there in the linked threat. o7 CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.17 11:57:00 - [761] - Quote Tacnet is worthless. Even with range mods and precision mods maxed in all slots nothibg appears unless it is within your inner ring. This means that they always appear superimposed on the center icon represening yourself. Unless the radar is adjusted so it ONLY covers the outer/main/inner ring the radar is useless. Bluntly you'll never get your detection radius beyond an HMG or AHMG optimal depending on the sentinel, so running the mods is almost never worthwhile. This was pre-nerf. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 395	Posted - 2015.07.17 12:02:00 - [762] - Quote Only time the radar is of use is with a scanner. The three rings don't work since, like breakin said, only the inner ring picks anything up and by that time it's too late. Purifier. First Class.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.17 12:11:00 - [763] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Was experimenting with my 3 Myofibril, 2 Kin Cat Min Sent this morning. - I put the Quafe skin on this fit. What skin would be more appropriate than Quafe for a Sentinel jump/speed fit? - If played correctly I think it has great potential. I ran into 3 enemy on a bridge when I was in very low armor. I thought I was dead for sure. But then I jumped over the rail and made my escape like a Scout would. Not only that, but I was fast enough to doubled back and ambush them coming through the next doorway and killed 2 of the 3. - Very Squishy! If you play it like a normal Sentinel you might as well have empty slots. Jump and Speed only help if you use them. - I suck at the jumping play style. I just don't have much experience using bunny hopping as a tactical approach, so while I had flashes of brilliance, I also had boat loads of FAIL! But I think that was user error. The fit seems sound for someone who can play to its strengths. - All the Myofibrils and Kin Cats in the world won't help you when your HMG seizes up from overheating. Thinking about how to use jumping distracted me, so my heat management on my Burst HMG really sucked this morning. I wonder if it would work better with an Assault HMG? You might consider dropping one Myo in exchange for a precision mod. I'm still playing with it myself to test out but a bit more TacNet awareness can (for me at least) really help Sentinel play. Some of this will of course be personal taste, but I think it's something that folks will have fun with. This morning I saw an HMG Sentinel walk into the objective slot to hack. I came around the corner behind him and since he was hacking I took an extra moment to try to line up a head shot with my burst. But he stopped hacking, and turned to engage before I even got my first shot off. I was like "How did he know I was there?" Maybe he had a precision mod. Or maybe he was using a trick I sometimes use, which is to start hacking for a second or two and then turn around to see if a defender has come to prevent the hack. It is a good tactic when you are ninja hacking a point without backup. The people defending the point will show up in the first couple of seconds. If you can kill them, you should be able to get the hack in before they respawn and get back to stop you. Of course if you interrupt you hack you may be giving up an opportunity, so I normally only do it if I suspect there are defenders close by. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 395	Posted - 2015.07.17 12:16:00 - [764] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Or maybe he was using a trick I sometimes use, which is to start hacking for a second or two and then turn around to see if a defender has come to prevent the hack. It is a good tactic when you are ninja hacking a point without backup. The people defending the point will show up in the first couple of seconds. If you can kill them, you should be able to get the hack in before they respawn and get back to stop you. Of course if you interrupt you hack you may be giving up an opportunity, so I normally only do it if I suspect there are defenders close by. I use the same trick if i make it in to a point solo, but do it more as a distraction to draw reds away from the other points. Purifier. First Class.
xavier zor Second-Nature Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.07.20 05:19:00 - [765] - Quote Caldari heavy here! Sign me up GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûä GûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ..
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.20 07:53:00 - [766] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Caldari heavy here! Sign me up Yesssssssss More bodies for the sentinel of doom. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 952	Posted - 2015.07.20 13:15:00 - [767] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Caldari heavy here! Sign me up More heavies named Xavier! CLICK ME!!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.20 14:40:00 - [768] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Racial Variant Numbers: 7 Minmatar Sentinel 10 Amarr Sentinels 11 Caldari Sentinels 10 Gallente Sentinels And Caldari pull into the lead for the first time. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.20 14:53:00 - [769] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Racial Variant Numbers: 7 Minmatar Sentinel 10 Amarr Sentinels 11 Caldari Sentinels 10 Gallente Sentinels And Caldari pull into the lead for the first time. BLASPHEMY! Everyone knows calsents are UP! WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.22 11:57:00 - [770] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: BLASPHEMY! Everyone knows calsents are UP! The smart approach would be to keep telling everyone that. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.22 12:08:00 - [771] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: BLASPHEMY! Everyone knows calsents are UP! The smart approach would be to keep telling everyone that. New plan! Everyone start complaining about how easy it is to get ganked in any sentinel after the stealth nerf! Commandos too! FATTY4LIFE! WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 404	Posted - 2015.07.22 12:08:00 - [772] - Quote [drops off several cargo pods of donuts and assorted snacks] Ok, that's today's delivery done. Haven't been running my Sentinel lately, been working on my Logi/Commando alt. If you can land a Plasma Cannon round, it can really ruin a Sentinel's day. I'll get back to Forge Gunning once the boosters dry up. Purifier. First Class.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 404	Posted - 2015.07.22 12:09:00 - [773] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: BLASPHEMY! Everyone knows calsents are UP! The smart approach would be to keep telling everyone that. New plan! Everyone start complaining about how easy it is to get ganked in any sentinel after the stealth nerf! Commandos too! FATTY4LIFE! #BuffTheFatties Purifier. First Class.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.22 12:33:00 - [774] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Haven't been running my Sentinel lately, been working on my Logi/Commando alt. If you can land a Plasma Cannon round, it can really ruin a Sentinel's day. I have to admit to having a great respect for those Plasma Cannon guys who go hunting HMG Sentinels. Sure they can one shot a Sentinel, but if they miss, they Sentinel is really going to mess up their day! It is also hard to complain too much about Plasma Cannons after you have sidestepped out of the way of a Plasma ball a few times. It really is the great equalizer for medium frame suits against Sentinels, but the Plasma Cannon has enough drawbacks that can be exploited to make it a fair fight. I have had a couple of 1v1 fights with Plasma Cannon users where we were both being careful and using cover, so that 3 plasma balls flew before one of us went down. Sometimes they get me. Sometimes I get them. It is a matter of their aim, and my timing and intuition. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.07.22 12:34:00 - [775] - Quote I was playing my Alt again this morning, and came to the realization that with 2 Kin Cats and an Assault HMG, Ambush does not suck anymore... In fact, Ambush can be a lot of fun when you have just a bit more range! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 404	Posted - 2015.07.22 15:39:00 - [776] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Haven't been running my Sentinel lately, been working on my Logi/Commando alt. If you can land a Plasma Cannon round, it can really ruin a Sentinel's day. I have to admit to having a great respect for those Plasma Cannon guys who go hunting HMG Sentinels. Sure they can one shot a Sentinel, but if they miss, they Sentinel is really going to mess up their day! It is also hard to complain too much about Plasma Cannons after you have sidestepped out of the way of a Plasma ball a few times. It really is the great equalizer for medium frame suits against Sentinels, but the Plasma Cannon has enough drawbacks that can be exploited to make it a fair fight. I have had a couple of 1v1 fights with Plasma Cannon users where we were both being careful and using cover, so that 3 plasma balls flew before one of us went down. Sometimes they get me. Sometimes I get them. It is a matter of their aim, and my timing and intuition. Plasma Cannon rounds down a narrow corridor mean it's hard to dodge. I get hate mail for getting kills like that. That and kills from 100m+ Purifier. First Class.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.22 15:59:00 - [777] - Quote Maybe it's just me, but why hate on someone for using terrain in a tactical manner? (not saying people don't do it of course lol, I'm sure you've gotten hatemail for it, I just don't understand why) CPM 1, reelection platform here.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.22 16:11:00 - [778] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Was experimenting with my 3 Myofibril, 2 Kin Cat Min Sent this morning. - I put the Quafe skin on this fit. What skin would be more appropriate than Quafe for a Sentinel jump/speed fit? - If played correctly I think it has great potential. I ran into 3 enemy on a bridge when I was in very low armor. I thought I was dead for sure. But then I jumped over the rail and made my escape like a Scout would. Not only that, but I was fast enough to doubled back and ambush them coming through the next doorway and killed 2 of the 3. - Very Squishy! If you play it like a normal Sentinel you might as well have empty slots. Jump and Speed only help if you use them. - I suck at the jumping play style. I just don't have much experience using bunny hopping as a tactical approach, so while I had flashes of brilliance, I also had boat loads of FAIL! But I think that was user error. The fit seems sound for someone who can play to its strengths. - All the Myofibrils and Kin Cats in the world won't help you when your HMG seizes up from overheating. Thinking about how to use jumping distracted me, so my heat management on my Burst HMG really sucked this morning. I wonder if it would work better with an Assault HMG? You might consider dropping one Myo in exchange for a precision mod. I'm still playing with it myself to test out but a bit more TacNet awareness can (for me at least) really help Sentinel play. Some of this will of course be personal taste, but I think it's something that folks will have fun with. This morning I saw an HMG Sentinel walk into the objective slot to hack. I came around the corner behind him and since he was hacking I took an extra moment to try to line up a head shot with my burst. But he stopped hacking, and turned to engage before I even got my first shot off. I was like "How did he know I was there?" Maybe he had a precision mod. Or maybe he was using a trick I sometimes use, which is to start hacking for a second or two and then turn around to see if a defender has come to prevent the hack. It is a good tactic when you are ninja hacking a point without backup. The people defending the point will show up in the first couple of seconds. If you can kill them, you should be able to get the hack in before they respawn and get back to stop you. Of course if you interrupt you hack you may be giving up an opportunity, so I normally only do it if I suspect there are defenders close by. Could be either one. One mod, with maxed skills, will help in the right context (such as using cover and sticking to tight spaces as I tend to, unless I'm being reckless ). And it's the moments like what you describe that really give the edge. Having the chance to interact outside of the known meta gives you an advantage you can capitalize on. CPM 1, reelection platform here.
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 404	Posted - 2015.07.22 16:22:00 - [779] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Maybe it's just me, but why hate on someone for using terrain in a tactical manner? (not saying people don't do it of course lol, I'm sure you've gotten hatemail for it, I just don't understand why) Maybe they just get mad at getting beaten and, rather than admit they made a mistake or got outplayed, they blame the other guy. Purifier. First Class.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.22 16:32:00 - [780] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Maybe it's just me, but why hate on someone for using terrain in a tactical manner? (not saying people don't do it of course lol, I'm sure you've gotten hatemail for it, I just don't understand why) Maybe they just get mad at getting beaten and, rather than admit they made a mistake or got outplayed, they blame the other guy. You're likely right, and that's exactly the thing I have trouble understanding. Maybe it's my background, who knows, but I'd rather accept responsibility than blame someone else. If I'm responsible then at least I'm in charge of making a change. If I lay it all at the feet of someone/something else it just seems like playing the victim because (to me) it abdicates all conceptual claim to power over the situation... so in essence at that point you're stuck, which is a condition I personally find deeply distasteful. But, everyone has their own psychology, so if their method is working for them then more power to them. (even if I'm confused lol) CPM 1, reelection platform here.



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