I would like to propose a different solution to buffing the Amarr scout without nerfing the Gallente innate repair:

1. Make the armor differential between amarr and gallente equivalent to a ENH ferroscale plate (vs enh armor repper on gallente)
2. Up the stamina bonus to: Amarr Scout: +10% bonus to stamina regen and maximum stamina per level.

We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.

We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.

We decided against any scout changes in Alpha.

If you didn't see before, I had the idea of armor reps being percentage based.

1. That would mean add 10 armor, because the current difference is 40HP.
2. I think it needs to be +20% per level. The complex module gives you 100%.

Lowest Dampening possible or worth noting:
Caldari - 18.49 db w/ 2 complex damps (17.56 db while proto cloak active)
Minmatar - 15.85 db w/ 3 complex damps (15.05 db while proto cloak active)
Amarr - 14.73 db w/ 4 complex damps
Gallente -13.87 db w/ 2 complex damps


For reference:

Gal Logi can 360 scan 4 Focused Scanners that scan at 15db for 5 seconds each.

Caldari Precision
-17.85 db w/ 2 complex precision
-15.81 db w/ 3 complex precision
-14.91 db w/ 4 complex precision

So what you really should have said is you're forcing players to fill all their lows with dampeners

Just to force players to make a choice between being completely unscannable or scannable and invisible.
CCP Rattati

Good.
That rep thing was quite a knee jerk reaction.
Even if you had sound logic other than "Amarr scout UP" (which I doubt), it doesn't make any sense.

Speaking of, when will assaults get the love they need?
And is that all you're really doing with the CR/PR?

You are the first to mention it, we are happy with not drastically change both at the same time, something we have been admonished for in the past.

What Amarr will receive for this MEGA NERF ?

As you said Amarr are supposed to brick tank, but their only possible plate is being ultra nerfed while others can use the other plates now. The ehp between Amarr and others is now even closer.....(Gallente have more than Amarr.....)

Actually Gallente still armor tank way better than Amarr while being faster and with hp/regen...
What's your plan on this ?


Amarr is :
-The slowest suit.
- Not even the better tank / and armor tank.
- No regen.
- Less slots.
- Biggest hitbox of all.


And the ONLY thing we received for this whole **** is 30hp (At then end other races have more ehp once fitted...) and...stamina. Oh god WHY ?

"Adding Amarr Dropsuit Slots"
Seriously, which Amarr dropsuit

You are the first to mention it, we are happy with not drastically change both at the same time, something we have been admonished for in the past.

I hope you guys know the ar is far from up
It's just that the cr is too op and the rr maybe needs a tweak.
Any more buffs=more op shield damage fyi.

You mean the Amarr Assault?
It's the only suit with less slots, and that's because they didn't touch assaults back at 1.8.

No.
The AR is so far behind in terms of range, yet so close in terms of DPS to the other rifles.

It's just stupid.

The 2% buff/nerf is a GREAT change in dev philosophy! Changing a value by 2% now does not mean the AR cannot be changed by another 1-2% at a later time if its not good enough.

Iterate! No more knee jerk nerfs/buffs please.

Erm i thought you where reducing the HP plates gave? Either im missing something or its not listed. However the only significant change are the armor reps which give 2.5HP/s, 5HP/s and 7.5HP/s. Thats deffo a nice thing however my Gk.0 scout fits have like 10-15PG leftover on proto lvl. so the 2 PG more for basic plates wont really bother me cause im using advanced plates. But damn the cost for feroscale and reactive plates are going down hard.

Cloak field duration doesnt really bother me cause i got insane passive scan range. I only cloak up when its needed so no change there for me. To be honest you would have made a bigger impact on scouts if you reduced the fitting bonus for cloaks.

Back to armor reps:
The new values of 2.5, 5 and 7.5HP/s are before skills i assume? Which would mean we can add another 25% on top of a repper. Which then means it would turn out as 3.125HP/s, 6.25HP/s and 9.375HP7s (basic-complex). Im warning you CCP a gallente heavy will get too close to high amounts of regen with 4 complex reppers. Which means that he can achieve 38,5HP/s (+1HP/s allready added!) which overlaps extremely with the caldari sentinel regen speed (30hp/s on default).

Erm i thought you where reducing the HP plates gave?

. Which means that he can achieve 38,5HP/s (+1HP/s allready added!) which overlaps extremely with the caldari sentinel regen speed (30hp/s on default).

Also, repping gallente sentinels will VERY viable with these changes, armor repair with 4 reppers:
4*9.375 + 1 = 38.5 hp/s
Effective rep vs rail: 38.5 / 0.85 = 45.3 hp/s
Effective rep vs projectiles: 38.5 / 0.9 = 42.78 hp/s

The new values of 2.5, 5 and 7.5HP/s are before skills i assume? Which would mean we can add another 25% on top of a repper. Which then means it would turn out as 3.125HP/s, 6.25HP/s and 9.375HP7s (basic-complex). Im warning you CCP a gallente heavy will get too close to high amounts of regen with 4 complex reppers. Which means that he can achieve 38,5HP/s (+1HP/s allready added!) which overlaps extremely with the caldari sentinel regen speed (30hp/s on default).

You're comparing a Gk.0 that uses all its slots on regen with a ck.0 that uses no slots for regen. If the ck.0 uses its slots for regen as well it has far higher regen (e.g. 63hp/s with 2 rechargers, and 117hp/s with 2 rechargers and 2 energizers). So that seems balanced.

2. Don't understand the reasoning about not buffing swarms because that would affect dropships. That would be a good thing! You do realize an ADS can basically ignore swarms at present? What is the point in having specialized roles that are so much worse at their 'speciality' than non-specialized roles are at it (e.g. tanks, which threaten infantry and vehicles alike)? Note, I have no axe to grind here, I don't have a single SP into swarms.

3. This is a minor issue, but why nerf AV nade restock at nanohive? Is this really a problem at present? If infantry have time to restock multiple grenades (which is the only time the change would make any difference) then the tanker has put themselves in an awfully vulnerable position, probably getting greedy for infantry kills rolling into a tight space where they don't belong.