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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:13:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Umm... I've been using the HMG exclusively since codex, so I think I'd know a little bit about the weapon. IF there was actual dispersion when moving then I'd be able to hit strafing players easier, but as we all know that's not the case. Then you just suck because I can hit strafing people just fine
So your like the Devs you like large reticles as well, interesting. I don't really care about the reticle, it's the actual spread that matters There is no spread! It doesn't matter what range the enemy is at, you must have the tiny dot of the reticule on target or you do zero damage. Then how come I can hit people when it's not on them? Even in the video you can see when he starts shooting he hits them without having the small dot on them. When you move the spread is almost as wide as standing still and the beginning of when you start shooting. It doesn't matter how big the reticule is or is not. Damage is not being dealt within the entire area of the reticule. When you move, and the center dot touches your target, you do damage, when the center dot moves of target, you do not do damage.
Further evidence of this lies within the fact that the Reticule does not even chang color indicating damage is or can be dealt unless the center dot is on a target.
You can be aiming at someone at range, and encompass the entire enemy inside the reticule, but unless the center dot touches them, your reticule stays yellow and you deal no damage.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
605
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:13:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:[quote=Master Jaraiy Seriously, why are you trying to argue with something that the OP has provided video evidence of and CCP has Blue tagged confirming exactly what we are all telling you.
Don't be so dense.
You know I heard this great saying once that dex should consider, it goes: Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.[/quote] Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts One less kid I have to deal with :) P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:15:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:*plugs ears and covers eyes* LALALALALA what you say or try to show me doesn't matter because I cannot be wrong
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:16:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote: Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts One less kid I have to deal with :) P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing?
You should probably seek help for that.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
605
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:18:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts One less kid I have to deal with :) P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing? You should probably seek help for that. HMG has spread while moving. It's not hard to understand. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:22:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts One less kid I have to deal with :) P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing? You should probably seek help for that. HMG has spread while moving. It's not hard to understand. If it doesn't have spread while standing still, what makes you think it does while you move.
Ohhhh I see! So, where is the "Accuracy Rating while Moving" Stat listed again?
Dude, the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move. It simply means that you are dealing damage across a horizontal line because you are moving.
The instant you stop moving, you stop dealing damage across a horizontal line.
If I grab a laser rifle and strafe while shooting 4 red dots all in a line, does that mean the Laser has dispersion? Of course not that is preposterous.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
605
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:24:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts One less kid I have to deal with :) P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing? You should probably seek help for that. HMG has spread while moving. It's not hard to understand. If it doesn't have spread while standing still, what makes you think it does while you move. Ohhhh I see! So, where is the "Accuracy Rating while Moving" Stat listed again? Dude, the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move. It simply means that you are dealing damage across a horizontal line because you are moving. "the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move" *facepalm*
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
505
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:30:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts One less kid I have to deal with :) P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing? You should probably seek help for that. HMG has spread while moving. It's not hard to understand. If it doesn't have spread while standing still, what makes you think it does while you move. Ohhhh I see! So, where is the "Accuracy Rating while Moving" Stat listed again? Dude, the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move. It simply means that you are dealing damage across a horizontal line because you are moving. The instant you stop moving, you stop dealing damage across a horizontal line. If I grab a laser rifle and strafe while shooting 4 red dots all in a line, does that mean the Laser has dispersion? Of course not that is preposterous.
We should just stop paying attention to the special needs kid here and lets get back to the real argument. It's obvious dexter is dumb so what's the point, ya know?
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:32:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts One less kid I have to deal with :) P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing? You should probably seek help for that. HMG has spread while moving. It's not hard to understand. If it doesn't have spread while standing still, what makes you think it does while you move. Ohhhh I see! So, where is the "Accuracy Rating while Moving" Stat listed again? Dude, the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move. It simply means that you are dealing damage across a horizontal line because you are moving. "the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move" *facepalm* Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:44:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
505
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:46:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine.
He doesn't believe you because you didn't test anything and are just spreading lies.
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
3979
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:48:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine.
No one believes you cause your wrong! But thanks for bumping the thread |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:51:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine. No one believes you cause your wrong! But thanks for bumping the thread Have you tested spread while moving? If not then don't bother talking. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:52:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine.
Get out your smart phone, record your test, and then post it. Then we might take you serious.
Or how bout just STFU and GTFO of this thread and let the adults talk you clown.
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emm kay
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:52:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
3980
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:55:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine. No one believes you cause your wrong! But thanks for bumping the thread Have you tested spread while moving? If not then don't bother talking.
Just for fun aim at a wall and you see the spread the HMG should have however the damage is only given at the pinpoint reticle.
And yes it looks as though thread is spread when moving . However as the video clearly shows there is no damage being done except at dead point center. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:55:00 -
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CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine. Get out your smart phone, record your test, and then post it. Then we might take you serious. Or how bout just STFU and GTFO of this thread and let the adults talk you clown. You know what? Fine, I give up. Go ahead and nerf the HMG. I just hope we get a respec soon so I can spec into ARs, those never seem to get nerfed. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:56:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Dexter307 wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:
Dude, the Accuracy of Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
(Ugh, 5 quote limit ) We'll I don't know what to say. I've tested it and it has spread only while moving. If you don't believe me that's fine. No one believes you cause your wrong! But thanks for bumping the thread Have you tested spread while moving? If not then don't bother talking. Just for fun aim at a wall and you see the spread the HMG should have however the damage is only given at the pinpoint reticle. And yes it looks as though there is spread when moving . However as the video clearly shows there is no damage being done except at dead point center. He's standing still in the video though
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
3980
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:59:00 -
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What you are seeing is the latancy of where you were firing your bullets a second ago while moving, same thing happens when shooting from a tank but is much more noticeable.
Standing still or moving is not going to change the actuall hit scan of the weapon it is the same standing still or moving. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:02:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:What you are seeing is the latancy of where you were firing your bullets a second ago while moving, same thing happens when shooting from a tank but is much more noticeable.
Standing still or moving is not going to change the actuall hit scan of the weapon it is the same standing still or moving. I tested it moving forward and backwards so the small dot never touched the enemy but I still killed him |
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HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
3981
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:14:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:What you are seeing is the latancy of where you were firing your bullets a second ago while moving, same thing happens when shooting from a tank but is much more noticeable.
Standing still or moving is not going to change the actuall hit scan of the weapon it is the same standing still or moving. I tested it moving forward and backwards so the small dot never touched the enemy but I still killed him
Well even a camera video would help us determine what you are seeing cause I just tried it too, and there is the tiniest of spread that bounces a bit but not to the size of the reticle as it was in chromosome and before.
Originally the weapon worked as a huge cone some what tight at the guns firing point but widening as fired further out down field Making it a beast up close cause it was doing more damage , the further down field the bullets were spread to far to be effective.
For the longest time in closed beta each reset we were given I would never spend points in sharpshooter because it made you more effective at longer ranges at the sacrifice of tighting your spread in close quarters to be less effective.
Then chromosome claim along and the sharpshooter skill was like giving god mode to us heavies cause we could actually shoot AR across the map in their range.
So what i beilive has happened is that they have tweaked the stats to much, when they eliminated the sharpshooter the first week of uprising the HMG was completely crippled and was absolutely useless. Then they put a hot fix in and gave us some range back but as most heavies would tell you in never felt quite right and we couldn't quite put our finger on it until this video came out and clearly shows the problem.
We need to go back to the cone system of firing prior to uprising, and maybe even chromosome cause that is when they may have changed the weopons core firing mechanics. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:42:00 -
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nice video. I like that the little white pixel = the hit point of the HMG...no wonder I thought the dispersion was crap hahaha
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1167
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:51:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I tested it moving forward and backwards so the small dot never touched the enemy but I still killed him Well even a camera video would help us determine what you are seeing cause I just tried it too, and there is the tiniest of spread that bounces a bit but not to the size of the reticle as it was in chromosome and before.
I'll have to give a shot and post results, too. Just as a note guys: Whether Dexter is right or wrong, the people who first pointed out that the HMG was too accurate before Ghaz posted his video got a similar treatment of "OMG STFU Noob, you have no idea what you're doing."
I don't believe Dexter, but I figure it may as well be worth testing instead of flaming away. Taste's got the right idea.
Other than that: Taste, I think you may be correct about when the mechanics were changed as well. I didn't want to trust my memory, since Ghaz's video confirmed what I believed was wrong, but I swear it worked different at some point in Dust's history as well.
Maybe Uprising 1.0 was the moment when it happened. Because I swear it was different in Chromosome...
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ER-Bullitt
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:10:00 -
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CCP's fix will be to make the reticule smaller... lol
Thanks for the video |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:15:00 -
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I figured out on my own, through use in the field, that the circle was meaningless. I donGÇÖt even see the circle any more. I have blocked it out mentally. All I see is that little dot.
I have found that the only thing that Aiming Down the sights does for you is reduce your tracking speed so it is easier to aim at mid range.
Crouching however, seems to dramatically increase damage and effective range. My understanding was that this was due to reduced dispersion.
It is looking like the bullets that drift away from center due to dispersion simply disappear, where as before they would do damage within the circle. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:31:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:There really is almost no damage applied even when crouched or really close. That damage is mostly being applied to the center dot. I did the tests over range and everything but there really wasn't any point into putting it in there becuase it was redundant footage.
I will say this though, crouching and aiming down sights reduced kick considerably making the user think that the weapon is actually getting more accurate. Let me rephrase: is there a way to test whether crouching actually increases DPS, or whether the effect of the reticule "tightening" after firing for a second has a confirmable and/or significant effect on DPS? This is all given the fact that you need the center dot on target to do any damage whatsoever. ED: For more clarification: My theory is that CCP is simulating dispersion by mathematically reducing damage based on the fraction of the aiming reticule filled by the target. You need to have it centered to do any damage at all, yes, but I'm curious if applied DPS increases the more the target fills the reticule. I've had this theory for a while now, but can't really figure out a way to test it. I don't believe HMG DPS is reduced simply by a range-to-target calculation the same way the AR gets treated. I believe another factor is involved. Crouching just reduces the the large spread (circle) giving a sense of more accuracy. What makes it more accurate is that the gun's kick isn't throwing your gun off target. At least that's what tests have shown me. The close range footage is exactly how it would work when crouched. Your damage is still centered and not affected by how much "spread" the gun has. I suppose this could be the case if Aim Assist is not active for the HMG. That would explain why the HMG did not get the sudden boost in effectiveness that all the other automatic weapons did with 1.4.
If Aim Assist was active, the different in kick would not be enough to break Aim Assist if the player was half way decent and compensating for the kick. |
XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 21:22:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:There really is almost no damage applied even when crouched or really close. That damage is mostly being applied to the center dot. I did the tests over range and everything but there really wasn't any point into putting it in there becuase it was redundant footage.
I will say this though, crouching and aiming down sights reduced kick considerably making the user think that the weapon is actually getting more accurate. Let me rephrase: is there a way to test whether crouching actually increases DPS, or whether the effect of the reticule "tightening" after firing for a second has a confirmable and/or significant effect on DPS? This is all given the fact that you need the center dot on target to do any damage whatsoever. ED: For more clarification: My theory is that CCP is simulating dispersion by mathematically reducing damage based on the fraction of the aiming reticule filled by the target. You need to have it centered to do any damage at all, yes, but I'm curious if applied DPS increases the more the target fills the reticule. I've had this theory for a while now, but can't really figure out a way to test it. I don't believe HMG DPS is reduced simply by a range-to-target calculation the same way the AR gets treated. I believe another factor is involved. Crouching just reduces the the large spread (circle) giving a sense of more accuracy. What makes it more accurate is that the gun's kick isn't throwing your gun off target. At least that's what tests have shown me. The close range footage is exactly how it would work when crouched. Your damage is still centered and not affected by how much "spread" the gun has. I suppose this could be the case if Aim Assist is not active for the HMG. That would explain why the HMG did not get the sudden boost in effectiveness that all the other automatic weapons did with 1.4. If Aim Assist was active, the different in kick would not be enough to break Aim Assist if the player was half way decent and compensating for the kick.
Aim assist is active on The HMG. The only problem is that the point which has to be on target for damage to be applied is too small. I have footage f this if you need it.
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Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:36:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote: RL machineguns are an orgasmic experience to operate, wielding the dust514's HMG is quite the opposite.
Complaint to Devs -
HMG: N33ds Moar Orgazm.
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Himiko Kuronaga
The Generals EoN.
2313
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:46:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:nice video. I like that the little white pixel = the hit point of the HMG...no wonder I thought the dispersion was crap hahaha "BUT HE WAS IN MY CONE OF FIRE!!" - No, he was out of your pixel of fire
You know, we've been killing with this terrible weapon for a long time now.
I think we're basically the best players in Dust and everyone should send us 100 mil. |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3985
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Posted - 2013.11.16 06:56:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:nice video. I like that the little white pixel = the hit point of the HMG...no wonder I thought the dispersion was crap hahaha "BUT HE WAS IN MY CONE OF FIRE!!" - No, he was out of your pixel of fire You know, we've been killing with this terrible weapon for a long time now. I think we're basically the best players in Dust and everyone should send us 100 mil.
Agreed this is for us! When we were the bastards the AR legends gave respect too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg7X5_K7LhE&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
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