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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:02:00 -
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Thanks for posting the vid! It only further proves what us heavies have known and struggled with since 1.0 launched. +1 to you good sir!
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.14 20:18:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:That's science for you. Credit doesn't go to the guy who actually discovers something, but to the person who makes it widely known. I'll be sure to mention Master in the same breath as Ghaz any time this comes up in the future. His thread confirms we've been dealing with this for quite a while... I think the date of his post is evidence that a change possibly occurred with the range mechanic updates in Uprising 1.2. That is, assuming it hasn't always been this way.
I believe it has been the way it is now since Uprising 1.0
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:56:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote: a bunch of nonsense
You have absolutely no Idea what you're talking about.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:05:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Umm... I've been using the HMG exclusively since codex, so I think I'd know a little bit about the weapon. IF there was actual dispersion when moving then I'd be able to hit strafing players easier, but as we all know that's not the case.
Then you just suck because I can hit strafing people just fine
So your like the Devs you like large reticles as well, interesting. I don't really care about the reticle, it's the actual spread that matters
There is no spread!
It doesn't matter what range the enemy is at, you must have the tiny dot of the reticule on target or you do zero damage.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:05:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:I'm a dipshit
Fixed
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:08:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Guessing you don't use the HMG then :p
HMG is only a laser if you stand still, adding spread would just nerf the HMG even more, and I'm tired of the dumb ideas people give for the HMG.
You have nothing whatsoever to support your point. Even though there is video evidence sitting in the first post of this thread against it, your argument is: "Nuh uh." It's not convincing. In the first 10 seconds of Ghaz's video he's moving and shooting the gun, and the HMG is working exactly as he describes in his tests. The proof against your point is right there already. When a gun shoots at 2000 rpm and your 10m away of course your going to kill people Cant you see that you're the idiot here? Just accept it, give up, and move on. You're like a bad politician on a good day. Kid, the adults are talking, go take a nap.
Seriously, why are you trying to argue with something that the OP has provided video evidence of and CCP has Blue tagged confirming exactly what we are all telling you.
Don't be so dense.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:13:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:GTA V FTW wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Umm... I've been using the HMG exclusively since codex, so I think I'd know a little bit about the weapon. IF there was actual dispersion when moving then I'd be able to hit strafing players easier, but as we all know that's not the case.
Then you just suck because I can hit strafing people just fine
So your like the Devs you like large reticles as well, interesting. I don't really care about the reticle, it's the actual spread that matters There is no spread! It doesn't matter what range the enemy is at, you must have the tiny dot of the reticule on target or you do zero damage. Then how come I can hit people when it's not on them? Even in the video you can see when he starts shooting he hits them without having the small dot on them. When you move the spread is almost as wide as standing still and the beginning of when you start shooting.
It doesn't matter how big the reticule is or is not. Damage is not being dealt within the entire area of the reticule. When you move, and the center dot touches your target, you do damage, when the center dot moves of target, you do not do damage.
Further evidence of this lies within the fact that the Reticule does not even chang color indicating damage is or can be dealt unless the center dot is on a target.
You can be aiming at someone at range, and encompass the entire enemy inside the reticule, but unless the center dot touches them, your reticule stays yellow and you deal no damage.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:15:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:*plugs ears and covers eyes* LALALALALA what you say or try to show me doesn't matter because I cannot be wrong
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:16:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:
Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts
One less kid I have to deal with :)
P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing?
You should probably seek help for that.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:22:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts
One less kid I have to deal with :)
P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing? You should probably seek help for that. HMG has spread while moving. It's not hard to understand.
If it doesn't have spread while standing still, what makes you think it does while you move.
Ohhhh I see! So, where is the "Accuracy Rating while Moving" Stat listed again?
Dude, the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move. It simply means that you are dealing damage across a horizontal line because you are moving.
The instant you stop moving, you stop dealing damage across a horizontal line.
If I grab a laser rifle and strafe while shooting 4 red dots all in a line, does that mean the Laser has dispersion? Of course not that is preposterous.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:32:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
Hey, I just remembered I can hide all your posts
One less kid I have to deal with :)
P.s. I'm hiding your posts because your not trying to argue, your just throwing insults around
Sooo, why exactly are you "trying to argu"? Is it just for the sake of arguing? You should probably seek help for that. HMG has spread while moving. It's not hard to understand. If it doesn't have spread while standing still, what makes you think it does while you move. Ohhhh I see! So, where is the "Accuracy Rating while Moving" Stat listed again? Dude, the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move. It simply means that you are dealing damage across a horizontal line because you are moving. "the Accuracy of the weapon doesn't change just because you move" *facepalm*
Dude, really. Moving does nothing to the Dispersion of the weapon itself.
Moving in and of itself Disperses your DPS across a horizontal line because you are moving!
Take the AR for instance. When an enemy is running, and I begin firing at his side, I can stay perfectly on target as long as I strafe and keep him in my sight. My accuracy is not effected at all. I lose no DPS.
Bullets do not simply disperse more because I'm moving. Bullets do, however, disperse more the longer I hold the trigger down with the AR. This is, of course, opposite of the HMG. As you fire, the HMG becomes even more accurate.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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