VIDEO!!!

Dust 514 - Heavy Machine Gun accuracy

Hello guys,

There are lots of heavies that you talk to about their heavy machine gun. When Asking whats wrong with it, a lot of them say that it feels sort of inaccurate, the range is bad, the spread is too much etc etc. People who don't use it would say things Like, "you should crouch and Aim Down Sites" and in all fairness it does help but, just a bit.

The real reason that the heavy machine gun feels so under powered is that it's too accurate. The damage is centered on a point that is as small as the point on the laser rifle's "Aim down sights". So even if you aim down sights or have the target inside your spread at all times, chances are you are not going to deal any worthwhile damage unless you have the target centered.

I could talk about this for ages and I still wouldn't make believers out of the most of you so why not a video.

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Thank you CCP for answering . I hope the video helps the DEVS and the Heavy community alike.

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I disagree with arguments that say that making the damage fill the circle will make the weapon lose damage because most of the HMG population, specially the new ones, used the HMG with the idea that damage was being applied everywhere within the circle. Even suggesting that ADS and crouching were necessary to reduce spread and hit the target better. My experiments showed that the only gain from ADS and Crouching was a tightening of a spread that is not being a used by the weapon. Therefore we can only conclude that making bullets fill the spread will serve to make the play style that most of us thought the weapon had become a reality.

Well PSN is basically saying FU to everyone with a PS4 right now.

So I have a PS4, but I'm still sad.

So much sadness.

Morose, really.

Who would have thought the closer to the center of your reticule, the more damage is applied .../facepalm

Too much rocket science for my brain to grasp :)

maybe the point of the OP is lost, it's not so much that 'the closer you get to the center, the more damage is applied' , the point is that practically NO damage is done unless the target is DEAD CENTER, or at least until the tiny center pin is on the target.

hence so many Laser rifle comparisons. this is absolutely not what the weapon was promoted as, and if this was the intended mechanic of the gun, why the large reticle size?

maybe the point of the OP is lost, it's not so much that 'the closer you get to the center, the more damage is applied' , the point is that practically NO damage is done unless the target is DEAD CENTER, or at least until the tiny center pin is on the target.

hence so many Laser rifle comparisons. this is absolutely not what the weapon was promoted as, and if this was the intended mechanic of the gun, why the large reticle size?

Try moving, then there's spread

lies all lies. Stop spreading false information it's people like you who have made it the way it is now so just stfu and step aside b!tch.

Guessing you don't use the HMG then :p
HMG is only a laser if you stand still, adding spread would just nerf the HMG even more, and I'm tired of the dumb ideas people give for the HMG.
"Lower it's ROF so it's more accurate!"
HMG skill changed from reduced heat build up to less kick (accually happened)
And now widen it's spread :/

Umm... I've been using the HMG exclusively since codex, so I think I'd know a little bit about the weapon. IF there was actual dispersion when moving then I'd be able to hit strafing players easier, but as we all know that's not the case.

Guessing you don't use the HMG then :p
HMG is only a laser if you stand still, adding spread would just nerf the HMG even more, and I'm tired of the dumb ideas people give for the HMG.

You have nothing whatsoever to support your point. Even though there is video evidence sitting in the first post of this thread against it, your argument is: "Nuh uh."

It's not convincing.


In the first 10 seconds of Ghaz's video he's moving and shooting the gun, and the HMG is working exactly as he describes in his tests. The proof against your point is right there already.

Umm... I've been using the HMG exclusively since codex, so I think I'd know a little bit about the weapon. IF there was actual dispersion when moving then I'd be able to hit strafing players easier, but as we all know that's not the case.

a bunch of nonsense

So your like the Devs you like large reticles as well, interesting.

When a gun shoots at 2000 rpm and your 10m away of course your going to kill people

I have absolutely no Idea what I'm talking about.

I don't really care about the reticle, it's the actual spread that matters

Cant you see that you're the idiot here? Just accept it, give up, and move on. You're like a bad politician on a good day.

I'm a dipshit

Kid, the adults are talking, go take a nap.

There is no spread!

It doesn't matter what range the enemy is at, you must have the tiny dot of the reticule on target or you do zero damage.

Kid, the adults are talking, go take a nap.

Fixed

Im upset that I don't have an argument so I'm going to act like a child