Using the HMG in Shadowfall I noticed some differences in its application that CCP might want to consider looking at, because the HMG in that game is actually legitimately difficult to use AND fun at the same time.

First of all, it has pinpoint precision in that game as well. At the same time, however, it has EXTREME range on it. As you are firing, it becomes harder to turn the weapon so a strafing opponent will get under you very easily if you miscalculate from the start. However, if your opponent crosses into the stream of fire for even a moment he is basically turned into swiss cheese. This is the part that is honestly missing from Dust, the swiss cheese effect.


I would recommend


1. Assault HMG -- Keep precision but give us a better crosshair, drastically increase damage, substantially increase range, decrease ability to turn the weapon while firing. This is more formulaic but it's a proven formula that works and is actually accepted.

2. Standard HMG -- Keep the range short, increase the spread, introduce stagger and shake effect upon bullet impact that makes it nearly impossible to fight against when trying to headbutt a heavy 1V1.


3. Burst HMG -- Keep mostly the same, though it may honestly require a slight damage buff to keep up with recent armor buffs, and to give it some appeal over the standard HMG's stagger effect.

At least in the video I did not see that it had to be pointing at the center of mass to do damage. From what I could tell, it must be dead center ANYWHERE on the target enemy to deal its damage.

It's funny to me that Heavies are complaining about this. Ppl who used shotguns always knew that you deal minimal damage within circle reticle unless the reticle dead centered - ppl grumbled about it since it's a SG with spread but there was not a river of tears like this now with HMG. I think it's not fair that HMG went from god weapon in chromo to a regular weapon but I don't see a problem with weapons being just normal. CCP should just not make god weapons period, so that there is not a crowd of angry players when they take it away.

I would agree that reticle on HMG is misleading and should be reworked.

Heavy weapons are meant to be superior to regular weapons. We have an entire suit that sacrifices movement and equipment for the sake of holding a bigger weapon that packs a bigger punch. If it is a "regular" weapon it is completely worthless. Some things are meant to be better. This is one of them.

I still have not seen any official comment in when they hope to fix this issue?

I think they might have either forgotten or don't have any new that will appease the community. In the latter I think they are playing it smart because if they say the wrong thing heavies will riot

I just tried the scrambler rifle last night...lulz I may never go back to being an hmg again this thing allows me to get ridiculous kills. And here I have been so frustrated playing with the HMG and this thing I can take out two if not three heavies side by side, in a light suit... Wow reminds me of pre uprising the way the HMG used to be

I just tried the scrambler rifle last night...lulz I may never go back to being an hmg again this thing allows me to get ridiculous kills. And here I have been so frustrated playing with the HMG and this thing I can take out two if not three heavies side by side, in a light suit... Wow reminds me of pre uprising the way the HMG used to be

Hey guys.

We've had a look at this video and it's pretty cool. Great work pulling it together. :) Love getting this kind of feedback.

We're having a look in to the situation with HMG spread and will keep you posted, mmmmkay.

Any chance of a hotfix on this CCP or will it require something more substantial? I'm running out of puppies to strangle and kittens to drown.

Man i have to say the will probably do a ninja fix. There are a lot of things that get done that way. One day it just works and everyone swears nothing changed but I am always on the lookout. Maybe they will just role it with 1.7 and not say a word and let people do the guessing. I dont mind though.

BTW why would you drown kittens. I here they are good with duck sauce or made into pepper steak.

I find that the boiling water also serves to tenderize the meat.

cant do it myself as i'm nowhere near as tech savvy, and i dont know how to do the video capture stuff.

Wouldn't it be great if HMGs had a 10% damage buff, an increase in range comparable to the max Sharpshooter skill of Chrome, and a working cone of dispersion?..

I just want Heavies to be feared again, even if slight. We're nothing more than slow moving target practice now. On another note, Scouts need love too.

Hey guys.

We've had a look at this video and it's pretty cool. Great work pulling it together. :) Love getting this kind of feedback.

We're having a look in to the situation with HMG spread and will keep you posted, mmmmkay.

30 plus days and not another word has been said about a fix coming soon, next patch, nothing!

Thanks for keeping us posted doing a bang up job

I refuse to spawn with my HMG anymore. The muzzle flash is too bright to see what you're shooting at, and everything has double your range these days. If I wanted to camp an objective, I'd become a remote explosive

You can do what I did, stopped playing completely. I was able to get 37 days worth of passive boosters, that's how long I'm not touching the game for. Plus with my shiny PS4 dust is all but obsolete now.

I'm dirt poor with no life to speak of, so DUST is where I'm at. I just don't leave my dropship anymore lol

Yea, i hear you. The PS4 was a gift, so otherwise I'd prolly still be playing dust. I also forgot to mention the boosters came from the AUR that I was refunded for my BPO's.

[quote=MassiveNine][quote=DUST Fiend]I'm dirt poor with no life to speak of, so DUST is where I'm at. I just don't leave my dropship anymore lol

i noticed this. saw your recent video. it's practically: call in DS.... annoy tank/Kill Infantry..... Get shot by tank (and get angry)...... recall DS...... shoot tank with FG..... rinse & repeat. quite funny i thought.

sad that the HMG isnt given any love, but i'm still hoping for a updated video (from some1 like you btw) showing proof that it has NOT been fixed. that way we cant/wont have any dispute as to the current mechanics, and the Blue tags will have the updated video proof to go and analyse.