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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4141
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:10:00 -
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Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful.
It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best.
This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles.
Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now.
I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to be a joke in DUST
Well done. |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
260
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:13:00 -
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has a point. why wasnt HMG given same aim assist as AR?
why doesnt every weapon have it? ur breaking the game with stuff like this CCP. |
Zero Roamero
NaphBlade
15
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:15:00 -
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.........So you haven't already seen the damage the heavy machine gun CAN ALREADY do then. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7133
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:17:00 -
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Zero Roamero wrote:.........So you haven't already seen the damage the heavy machine gun CAN ALREADY do then. In most practical cases it's nothing compared to what a Gek or Duvolle can pump out with 3 complex damage mods |
Joel II X
AHPA
50
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:17:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:has a point. why wasnt HMG given same aim assist as AR?
why doesnt every weapon have it? ur breaking the game with stuff like this CCP. Because it spreads. Shotguns don't have AA. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1536
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:18:00 -
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Zero Roamero wrote:.........So you haven't already seen the damage the heavy machine gun CAN ALREADY do then. you mean can't... it only matters if your bullets hit, and the HMG isn't laser accurate like the AR... |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4146
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:19:00 -
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Zero Roamero wrote:.........So you haven't already seen the damage the heavy machine gun CAN ALREADY do then.
lol...
Oh you mean the POTENTIAL DPS.
Guess you haven't fired an HMG huh? If you did you would have noticed the huge amount of bullet spread making the numbers game useless. The DPS on your screen is accurate if every bullet hits, and lol at every bullet from the HMG hitting.
The AR / SR has a better representation of their DPS as they're accurate weapons.
The more you know |
Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1972
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:20:00 -
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Oh look, more noobs trying to defend the HMG's terrible performance without actually having any experience in PC whatsoever.
I do believe this is the first time this has ever happened. |
Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
36
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:20:00 -
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Zero Roamero wrote:.........So you haven't already seen the damage the heavy machine gun CAN ALREADY do then.
ur either stupid or trolling. hated the 1st gen Chromosome heavies but now HMG misses more shots than actually hit due to dispersion.
no range + dispersion = gun no work
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1179
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:21:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful. It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best. This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles. Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now. I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST Well done. Link?
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
202
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:22:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Zero Roamero wrote:.........So you haven't already seen the damage the heavy machine gun CAN ALREADY do then. lol... Oh you mean the POTENTIAL DPS.Guess you haven't fired an HMG huh? If you did you would have noticed the huge amount of bullet spread making the numbers game useless. The DPS on your screen is accurate if every bullet hits, and lol at every bullet from the HMG hitting. The AR / SR has a better representation of their DPS as they're accurate weapons. The more you know
true story. |
Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1972
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:23:00 -
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Link for what?
Nothing he said was wrong. Why does he need a link? |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1536
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:24:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Link for what?
Nothing he said was wrong. Why does he need a link? 2 new ARs... |
chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
37
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:24:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful. It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best. This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles. Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now. I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST Well done.
pick up a AR with a STD heavy suit. stay in buildings. its the only real use for the heavy besides tower forging. hmg just isnt good.... |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4146
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:24:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful. It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best. This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles. Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now. I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST Well done. Link?
About new assault rifles? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1412603#post1412603
[FEEDBACK] Balancing Assault Rifle and TAR - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112035&find=unread Status: We are going to release some changes to ranges, and additionally, 1.7 will give players new rifles to play with, and we will keep monitoring their performance on TQ. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1350
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:24:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful. It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best. This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles. Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now. I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST Well done. You sound frustrated.
I like the HMG, and have been enjoying playing heavy recently, even if the HMG is weaker than an Assault Rifle right now unless you are within spitting distance.
As long as they give us the other Heavy Suits I will be happy. We will probably see pictures of the new Heavy Weapons at Fan Fest in the Spring. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4146
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:25:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful. It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best. This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles. Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now. I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST Well done. pick up a AR with a STD heavy suit. stay in buildings. its the only real use for the heavy besides tower forging. hmg just isnt good....
Why would i use such a terrible suit with an AR?
A well fitted Medium suit >>>>> lolheavy suit |
Knight Soiaire
P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M
2712
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:25:00 -
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Also the link to where they said there would be no Heavy Weapons in 1.7. |
Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1972
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:25:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Link for what?
Nothing he said was wrong. Why does he need a link? 2 new ARs...
He is talking about the combat rifle and rail rifle. Which are not technically "AR's", but the same class of weapon and fit the point entirely.
Thought that was obvious. |
chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
37
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:26:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Oh look, more noobs trying to defend the HMG's terrible performance without actually having any experience in PC whatsoever.
I do believe this is the first time this has ever happened. dont even mention pc man. i went against STB and TP and all they used was explosives and a couple tower forgers. pc is a joke man. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
534
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:26:00 -
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I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.
I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.
I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.
But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.
So I struggled on.
And then I crouched.
And the angels sang.
It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1536
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:27:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful. It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best. This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles. Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now. I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST Well done. Link? About new assault rifles? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1412603#post1412603[FEEDBACK] Balancing Assault Rifle and TAR - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112035&find=unreadStatus: We are going to release some changes to ranges, and additionally, 1.7 will give players new rifles to play with, and we will keep monitoring their performance on TQ. couldn't they switch the range profiles of the AR and HMG? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4146
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:27:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote: You sound frustrated.
I like the HMG, and have been enjoying playing heavy recently, even if the HMG is weaker than an Assault Rifle right now unless you are within spitting distance.
As long as they give us the other Heavy Suits I will be happy. We will probably see pictures of the new Heavy Weapons at Fan Fest in the Spring.
Pictures?... is this a troll?
What does pictures have to do with anything? We saw pictures at this year's fanfest too, and then what? Whatever come of that? A bunch of people got excited over sketches and a couple rendered pics. Yet nothing new for the heavy since closed beta. |
Shouper of BHD
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
289
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:29:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.
I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.
I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.
But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.
So I struggled on.
And then I crouched.
And the angels sang.
It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)
is the Gallante heavy like a striker or AA12 shotgun? an atuo matic shot gun heavy would be cool, also as I epected, the lazer heavy is AV then..... mos interesting still I imagine it to be like the FG. |
chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
37
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:29:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:chase rowland wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful. It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best. This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles. Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now. I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST Well done. pick up a AR with a STD heavy suit. stay in buildings. its the only real use for the heavy besides tower forging. hmg just isnt good.... Why would i use such a terrible suit with an AR? A well fitted Medium suit >>>>> lolheavy suit better than a HMG right? just a thought |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4149
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:29:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.
I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.
I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.
But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.
So I struggled on.
And then I crouched.
And the angels sang.
It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)
Crouching might work down a corridor, but if you're trying to avoid nade spam and MD spam, you're literally a sitting duck in this situation.
I will admit crouching has a magical effect on bullet spread, but there should be a skill to reduce that.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1536
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:30:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Fox Gaden wrote: You sound frustrated.
I like the HMG, and have been enjoying playing heavy recently, even if the HMG is weaker than an Assault Rifle right now unless you are within spitting distance.
As long as they give us the other Heavy Suits I will be happy. We will probably see pictures of the new Heavy Weapons at Fan Fest in the Spring.
Pictures?... is this a troll? What does pictures have to do with anything? We saw pictures at this year's fanfest too, and then what? Whatever come of that? A bunch of people got excited over sketches and a couple rendered pics. Yet nothing new for the heavy since closed beta. Fox Usually doesn't troll... |
Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1975
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:31:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.
I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.
I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.
But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.
So I struggled on.
And then I crouched.
And the angels sang.
It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)
Problem is that it doesn't work in PC. It essentially makes you a stationary target, and most of the incoming shots will hit your head which kills you that much faster.
When everybody is using proto they have too much HP to kill effectively with that tactic. But their accuracy is absolutely perfect, and they get the ability to strafe to dodge your shots. You will get dropped instantly. |
Sleepy Zan
Sumar Gorp
2582
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:33:00 -
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Why should anyone care about heavies, they're lazy, fat, arrogant assholes. They are worse then the slayer kids, they don't do anything for anyone else, their fat asses eat up all the nanohives, and they hog the armor reps.
**** you heavies, **** you |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
291
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:34:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.
I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.
I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.
But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.
So I struggled on.
And then I crouched.
And the angels sang.
It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)
Soo.... basically you're saying that a feature that's been in the game since release is why you still aren't releasing new weapons for the heavy? Like it's all of a sudden supposed to be a game changer or something? |
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