Hey Fox/Himiko,

I am the global head of FP&A at CCP, currently based in Iceland, and relocating with my family to Shanghai in January to help our efforts on Dust 514, joining CCP Rouge and the team there.

Given that I am also a fanatic player, you might call me a true believer in Dust 514 and its potential.

Well closed beta heavy compared to what we have now would be godly.

Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now.

Gotta love the lack of care for the heavy coming from CCP. Seriously, just take the class out of the game. Like the dropships and Marauder tanks, just take it out til it's actually useful.

It's pathetic that after a year and a half the heavy class still only has 1 anti infantry weapon specific to its class. DUST is about diversity I was told... LOL! Only diversity in this game is who can spam proto nades the best.

This game is about medium suits + Assault rifles.

Everyone is a slayer. Scout is almost useless, and heavies defending is laughable because they're a proto hipster glorified camper now.

I say it again, heavies will soon become a dinosaur. Extinct and a distant memory. What a joke. From being a feared, and well respected class to being a joke in DUST

Well done.

But im a logi i sacrifice all of my battle potential so i can keep by fellow blue dots alive.

Heavies LOVE Logi Bros. Don't sweat it, he was referring to the Slayer fits with the crack at medium suits.

Heavies don't CARE about logi-bros. Only in pubs do they have a place since battle can calm down sometimes to repair. in PC the rep tool is pretty much just trash. It's better to have another gun shooting then a logi-bro repping. By far.

Get proto uplinks and triage. That's how you can best help your team and feel like a support class rather then the best slayer class who can do it all.

Np offense logi-bros. The core rep heals FAST. but not as fast as the devoulle kills.

I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.

I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.

I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.

But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.


So I struggled on.

And then I crouched.

And the angels sang.


It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)

The problem is, while other classes get better, the heavies have continually gotten worse over time. Chromosome was an epic time for heavies, and before that heavies were the gods on the battlefield requiring 2-3 guys to team fire. Now? One guy with an Assault rifle could take one down in a matter of seconds.

Heavies are no longer feared like they used to be, in fact a Caldari suit + AR is more feared than anything else.

I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.

I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.

I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.

But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.


So I struggled on.

And then I crouched.

And the angels sang.


It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)

Absolutely, you have to almost double tab the crouch button but it makes at least playing the heavy viable in many games.

There are many ways to fix some of the issues you mention, heavy being more resistant to small arms fire, or the heavy armor shields better from headshots, etc. I'll leave that to the designers but I assure you, we are always listening (and measuring) to what works in PC and what doesn't, so keep the feedback flowing.

I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.

I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.

I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.

But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.


So I struggled on.

And then I crouched.

And the angels sang.


It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)

Heavies don't CARE about logi-bros. Only in pubs do they have a place since battle can calm down sometimes to repair. in PC the rep tool is pretty much just trash. It's better to have another gun shooting then a logi-bro repping. By far.

Get proto uplinks and triage. That's how you can best help your team and feel like a support class rather then the best slayer class who can do it all.

Np offense logi-bros. The core rep heals FAST. but not as fast as the devoulle kills.

The main problem is the TTK (time to kill)

The Assault rifle kills players faster than they can react. The amount of ehp heavies have means nothing when they can't avoid the bullets.

Heavies need one of three things:

-Passive resistance to small arms (things like mass drivers, plasma cannons, with still do normal damage). Whether this becomes just a general resistance, or something that has to be skilled into (for instance, 5% resistance per level of Amarr sentinel), is up for debate.

-10% reduction to damage in general in this game. I don't like playing CoD simply because everyone dies in 0.2 seconds. The fact that you can kill a heavy in two second is sad, and doesn't bring the fear to the battlefield that they should.

-Increase the optimal range of HMG. This would keep players at range of HMGs, while allowing Heavies to engage enemies at a longer range.

Honestly, I think that the HMG would seem much more effective if the AR wasn't so accurate at range. The problem is with the AR having NO spread while ADS. This means that even when outside of your optimal, you just have to aim at the enemy and all of your bullets will shoot where you point. This doesn't make any sense, no other game does this, and it's the biggest part of unbalance in this game.

2 seconds is an Eternity during a gunfight, if you cannot react below those 2 seconds (at around 0.5-0.7 seconds an Average person should be returning fire, Pro's return fire after 0.3-0.4), i mean you will already need double the EHP that you now have to start reacting to enemy fire, thats 3k EHP heavies right there, how long should a heavy last while under AR fire for you to be happy about it, 3? 5, 10? Are we even allowed to kill it with a single clip ?

Yes, if all the shots were headshots. xD

The problem is, while other classes get better, the heavies have continually gotten worse over time. Chromosome was an epic time for heavies, and before that heavies were the gods on the battlefield requiring 2-3 guys to team fire. Now? One guy with an Assault rifle could take one down in a matter of seconds.

Heavies are no longer feared like they used to be, in fact a Caldari suit + AR is more feared than anything else.

snip It was frustrating losing confrontations that I thought I should have won simply because my opponent danced around a little bit, or jumped, still landing pinpoint accurate shots snip

I have been practicing my heavy in anticipation of my Gallente heavy soontm.

I love the idea of an armored beast with an HMG so I began skilling slowly into it but it was going terribly for weeks. Going head to head with mediums at optimum (that I thought) ranges for me, had me losing half of the time, or more.

I did not like it and did not understand how to make it work, blaming my lack of specilaization or general UP of the heavy, and cursing the gods.

But then I had an eye opening moment, seing the Dark cloud come into a random pub and go 24/0 in a heavy/hmg, in the midst of the firefight the whole time, something I had just thought not possible.


So I struggled on.

And then I crouched.

And the angels sang.


It's a weird crutch (I am used to it from my old AQ2 days), and I don't think the heavy is by no means perfect as it is, but tactical crouching with the hmg literally melts faces like no other weapon I have used (except for OHK's)

I must be playing a different game

We use At least one DS sometimes 2 if were multi squading in FW for fast insertion and extraction of infantry and never have a problem with birds getting shot down they appear to work fine. Maybe it's more to do with how you fly that's the issue.

We deploy at least 1 tank in one of the squads and very rarely lose it to AV as we allocate infantry support as needed again via drop from DS. Also we have three gunners the driver and 2 support with skills trained to level 5 in turret skills.

We deploy 2 heavies within our squads who destroy all before them with assault AR MD support.

So I'm totally confused why people think there broken maybe your just not using them as intended

About new assault rifles? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1412603#post1412603

[FEEDBACK] Balancing Assault Rifle and TAR - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112035&find=unread
Status: We are going to release some changes to ranges, and additionally, 1.7 will give players new rifles to play with, and we will keep monitoring their performance on TQ.

Because it spreads. Shotguns don't have AA.

Hey Fox/Himiko,

I am the global head of FP&A at CCP, currently based in Iceland, and relocating with my family to Shanghai in January to help our efforts on Dust 514, joining CCP Rouge and the team there.

Given that I am also a fanatic player, you might call me a true believer in Dust 514 and its potential.