What on earth are you talking about? It's not more user friendly!

Yes it is. Everyone with eyes can see this. The gap between the newbies and the protos is less than before 1.4. More user friendly. You will see this in the upcoming weeks when the gamers start to flock in 2 play the game.

That's because they removed all requirements for SKILL and replaced it with a crutch! A game without the requirement for skill is pointless because all challenge is gone.

I'm not childish enough to play a game just because it's suddenly "easy" and because I get a hardon for scoring points. I play games for the challenge.

You obviously disagree and prefer games with training wheels because you care more about "points" than actual skill.

The game needs more players. It was 2 hard for the newbies to shoot against us protobears before so they left. What is it that you want sunshine? Run around alone while playing Dust? Why are you crying??

So what they should have done is introduce proper matchmaking...not giving all sucky players a massive crutch that removes all skill from the game.

Also, keep it up with your ad hominem attacks (google it, it don't think you know what that means) if you want...it makes you look like a 12 year old player who sucks at the game

Let's just face facts here: You don't care about skills, all you care about is scoring points. If that means Dust has to turn into an "easy mode" game, so be it. No skills required, no challenge wanted...

The OP posted links showing that DUST's AA is in line with other console shooters in the industry (weaker than most actually). It's what players expect when they fire up a console shooter. Do you honestly think there is a large enough console player base with "good values", as you put it, to sustain DUST's development? If there are, where the f*ck have they been?

I think you're failing to grasp the basic economics behind a FTP business model: you need a massive pool of players. In order to get a massive pool of players you need to appeal to what they want and expect.

I've posted suggestions on how things could be improved to still reward the top players, you've seem to ignore them. Is it because this is less about competing at the highest levels with players having "good values" and more about your desire to pump up your stats by stomping newbies?

Yes it is. Everyone with eyes can see this. The gap between the newbies and the protos is less than before 1.4. More user friendly. You will see this in the upcoming weeks when the gamers start to flock in 2 play the game.

To those saying that AA is a MUST for new players to stay in the game... IT'S NOT!

What is a must is more game modes and a better MATCHMAKING SYSTEM!
That way they play with ppl on their level.

AA off is a way to retain all of us who have played with it off and gained skill and aiming since beta. Or start of uprising.

ALSO: AA is not needed to "compete" with kbm. The best players in the game use ds3. And they do just fine.

The game needs more players. It was 2 hard for the newbies to shoot against us protobears before so they left. What is it that you want sunshine? Run around alone while playing Dust? Why are you crying??

Appealing to the top 10% is the reason CCP still exists. See EVE.

This game does not need an inflow of noskill-CoDshitters that will be gone the second the new CoD is released.
We need more content, once we got proper deployables and at least some variety in dropsuits the people will flow in because "wow what an awesome game", and not because "HAY BRUV CHECK OUT COD:BLOPS 514".

I use a ds3 but not aim assist and the update to the ds3 is epic much easier to track targets now don't get we wrong i still miss. The reason the vets!!!! Cough are crying is because the kbm isn't superior any more and they can't give each other reach arounds when looking at there KDR at the end of the match

If EVE got rid of all the care bears, the economy would collapse and the elite 10% in EVE wouldn't have anything to play. It's also not a twitch game, which you seem to think is the pinnacle of gameplay. What makes EVE interesting is module choice, teamwork, and strategy/tactics. AA doesn't reduce these aspects of DUST at all, in fact they make those aspects of the game even more important.



You're delusional if you think there will be a massive influx of players eager to get pubstomped for months until they build up the aiming skill and SP to be competitive with Kb/M vets just by adding a few new suits and deployables. You're right that many of the CoD players will be flaky and move on to other titles, but the RPG aspects of DUST and the passive SP gains will draw many of them back (and many will still run passive SP boosters while they're taking a break--helping sustain development). This is especially true when new content is added in the biannual expansions. Not to mention the fact that the power of corps and social gameplay will keep them coming back to want to defend their "sandcastles".

DUST is still a very deep game, even with AA, and it will only get moreso as new content comes in. Also, you've not addressed my point about ways the system could be tweaked to still reward hardcore players.

I am purely disgusted and I don't have enough pity to go around for all the people who think that aim assist is godsend.

"DS3 users now have a chance against KB/M!! lelelel"

Sounds like, "I sucked really hard at this game but now with aim assist, I'm amazing"

I pity everyone who said that because you are admitting that you suck at aiming without aim assist. Especially since there are players out there who uses gamepads and still own without aim assist.

You couldn't kill a player before because you have no skill. So you pride yourself now that you can kill with the help of aim assist.

That is utterly pathetic.

Praising your aim assist equates to nothing but a cry for help because you lack the skill you degenerate uneducated plebeian.

And for those who claim aim assist should be in Dust 514 because it's a console game like other FPS games should just play those other plebeian games like those other useless sacks of skin they call players.

Because Dust 514 is pronounced as Dust 514, not Call of Duty, Which means, if you haven't guessed, it's a different game.

I played Dust 514 for its promise of becoming a better FPS game than the other FPS casual games. I stayed for the in-depth character customization that gives players the chance to be better than others. And I continued playing for the challenge of playing with no aim assist.

But obviously, they were all shattered in just one day.

Dust is one of the few games now where skill in aiming is actually demanded and rewarded. Well, at least until 1.4.

Dont attribute the flaws of matchmaking to the need for strong aim assist.

@ Sir Petersen:

Of course Dust in its current form isn't for me. I like a challenge and I don't like to ride bikes with training wheels...which sadly is exactly what Dust is in its current form.

It's a game for people who don't like a challenge, a game for people who don't care about actual skills...people like you.

Dust is a bit like the polar opposite to EVE. While Eve is meant for people who like a challenge, for people who don't need a crutch, Dust is the exact opposite. It caters to the smallest (and dumbest) denominator.

For people that think Kbm rules dust...

Sounds like this gug is a little up himself dont you think? People need to stop lokking at this from a vets point of veiw!! If you consider non aim assist ownage when noone has it, is that skill or twitchy fingers?

You are perfect liberty to use the same system as them, you misinterpret pride for satisfaction, they over joyed they can actually kill stuff now!!

If you were a real pro, not just some who believes there entitled to the moniker because they have been here for a while, you would adapt like so many others have!! (Im not saying this applies to YOU specifically, its just in general)

Skill ks an illusion, you can't test or prove the exsistance of skill in any game like this, there are too many variables, skill is nothing more than luck in games like this, who sees who first, who gets shot in the back, who happens to be in the wrong place at the right time!!

It is skill. Whether or not twitchy fingers is part of it or not.

Skill is not an illusion. I agree there are many variables, but you can't deny people that have like 6+ kds with an AR don't have skill. That's utter crap. The "pros" you are referring to have already adapted. Much like myself. But it doesn't mean we LIKE it!

We liked it before!

That is why we are here on the forums trying to get AA at LEAST toned down..a lot!

And what about all the people who like it and are not on the forums?
The majority of people is not here. Only a very few.

Obviously those of us who have been here for any amount of time will adapt to whatever CCP throws at us. In my opinion aim assist that slows the reticle as it aproaces an enemy is fine, aim assist that includes a little friction when the reticle moves across an enemy is fine. I can not however support an aim assist with magnatism, if you need the computer to aim for you I don't know what to say other then get good. CCP all you have to do is get rid of the magnatism associated with aim assist and all will be right with the world once again.

What's wrong with: [Standard Aim Assist] the existing system that is in-line with existing AAs in the industry. This is only available in pub matches. [Weak Aim Assist] Reduced version of Standard AA, no (or almost no) magnetism. This mode is available in all game modes and grants a 2% bonus to SP gain. And [No Aim Assist] which is available everywhere and grants a 10% SP boost?

Also, reducing all weapon damage by 10% will help vets, since fights will be a bit longer and reward intelligent module choices more and allow for better tactics.

What about them? I could say the same...

What about the people who dislike it and aren't on the forums?