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Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:03:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Beeeees wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: Denial-mode engaged, strawman mode to lvl 3.
Buddy, you got rekd, accept it. You can think what you want, really, IDGAF, you're going to believe whatever delusions you think are popular so you can feel included with the "in-crowd". @Lurchasaurus Sorry if I saw a personal attack and took nothing else from the post. I am aware of the playstyle I've chosen from the start and the only thing preventing me from further developing it is the fact that we are stuck in lobby after lobby with no opportunity for open world, FPS PvP. If we had that option, I'd be able to further develop my playstyle. We don't, therefore I am happy with where I am and will continue to be until I have a proper environment to develop my playstyle. If you think that I am an "entitled and unskilled player" because of this, go ahead, again, IDGAF. If you'll take note, I've been playing less and less, quickly going down the road of Dust Bittervet.
Nowhere in the post did i say i was referring to you. In fact i expressedly said "This opinion"
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8142
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:34:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:CCP is silent on the manner because they're in collection mode most likely.
I have been giving them points made out by players for things to look out for such as :
I hope without manipulation? I hope you mention that there are people who like the AA ;). Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:aim assst sucks, i use a ds3 and i hate aim assist, we have played so long without it why the hell do we need it now? i prefer using actual hand eye cordination skill than just letting some robot track my target for me. You are welcome to turn it of. I will use mine.
I am just giving them a list of things to see if its over toned as one could put it and might need toning down or that what is happening on the field is not what they're intending ect ect. I'm not trying to get rid of it just alleviate some of the worst cases where the AA might be doing more harm than good. |
Christian 1996
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:53:00 -
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If this game plans to bring in new players aim assist is a must. I believe that the aim assist is perfect. I compare this aim assist to that of halo. In halo gunfights last longer, players jump, strafe and move everywhere. In halo aim assist is a must because 90 percent of the time your tracking your targets during gunfights while jumping and moving around. I feel like the same stands for dust. If CCp decides to take away aim assist, and fix KBM then the only people who will get shafted are the DS3 users. Aiming with KBM is much more precise than DS3. Making fine adjustments at long range, and in your face CQC is where the DS3 fails. Us controller users need a way to balance out the playing field, and thats with aim assist. Which is usually standard on most console games. Why it was taken off in Dust makes no sense to me. And besides probably the reason why people have been getting killed more is not aim assist, but the fact that CCP finally fixed aiming with the DS3. Before 1.4 aiming with the DS3 was awful. Hip firing and ADS had the same aiming speed, and the controls were sluggish, clunky, and wonky. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1834
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:54:00 -
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Christian 1996 wrote:If this game plans to bring in new players aim assist is a must. I believe that the aim assist is perfect. I compare this aim assist to that of halo. In halo gunfights last longer, players jump, strafe and move everywhere. In halo aim assist is a must because 90 percent of the time your tracking your targets during gunfights while jumping and moving around. I feel like the same stands for dust. If CCp decides to take away aim assist, and fix KBM then the only people who will get shafted are the DS3 users. Aiming with KBM is much more precise than DS3. Making fine adjustments at long range, and in your face CQC is where the DS3 fails. Us controller users need a way to balance out the playing field, and thats with aim assist. Which is usually standard on most console games. Why it was taken off in Dust makes no sense to me. And besides probably the reason why people have been getting killed more is not aim assist, but the fact that CCP finally fixed aiming with the DS3. Before 1.4 aiming with the DS3 was awful. Hip firing and ADS had the same aiming speed, and the controls were sluggish, clunky, and wonky.
you realize strafing is dead in 1.4? |
Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
79
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Posted - 2013.09.08 05:32:00 -
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Mouse and keyboard dominate ds3 without aim assist.There was no way to be competitive with a ds3 before.All those crying about aa are try hards who are used to get all those free kills and now thay cant anymore,,,cry more plz.(all console games have aim assist) |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
579
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Posted - 2013.09.08 05:54:00 -
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Flatman22 wrote:When I play football in the real world against real people, I don't get to have tackle assist. When I play paintball against real people, I don't get aim assist. When I play a game against real people, I want to play against people, not against aim-bots.
That's right! That's why Kb/m shouldn't be allowed! |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1834
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Posted - 2013.09.08 05:55:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:Mouse and keyboard dominate ds3 without aim assist.There was no way to be competitive with a ds3 before.All those crying about aa are try hards who are used to get all those free kills and now thay cant anymore,,,cry more plz.(all console games have aim assist)
im pretty sure most ds3 players i play with would tell you otherwise. i guess it is convenient to assume all ds3 players are incapable of aiming tho to make your point. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
579
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:08:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:you realize strafing is dead in 1.4?
....and? I played MAG really a lot, and strafing was nearly impossible. Why is it a problem if you can't strafe? Mind you, it's not because you are good, it's because you (or your opponent) lag, so you might think "whoa this guy really suck at aiming" or "better than matrix hell yeah". Just adapt your play style. Take cover, shoot, take cover, reload, shoot again. Call your reinforcements because now there's almost no way you can survive a 3 vs 1. Don't get me wrong, I don't consider myself a noob that needs AA to survive (my 4.5 kdr speaks by itself) and even if I'm dying more now, I really find the whole game more enjoyable. If you really like to dodge things there are a lot of games that allows you to. Metal Slug, R-Type etc |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
579
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:14:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Mouse and keyboard dominate ds3 without aim assist.There was no way to be competitive with a ds3 before.All those crying about aa are try hards who are used to get all those free kills and now thay cant anymore,,,cry more plz.(all console games have aim assist) im pretty sure most ds3 players i play with would tell you otherwise. i guess it is convenient to assume all ds3 players are incapable of aiming tho to make your point. It's not that. You literally can't follow a guy who strafe with a keyboard. Even if you have a great eye-fingers coordination you can't follow your target. To strafe with a keyboard you just press "a" "d" for lateral strafe. If you strafe with a ds3 the difference is noticeable, because you see your target strafing "slower" because its change of direction is much slower, letting you track its movement far easier.
and...I don't want to talk about mouse sensitivity vs pad sensitivity. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1835
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:33:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Mouse and keyboard dominate ds3 without aim assist.There was no way to be competitive with a ds3 before.All those crying about aa are try hards who are used to get all those free kills and now thay cant anymore,,,cry more plz.(all console games have aim assist) im pretty sure most ds3 players i play with would tell you otherwise. i guess it is convenient to assume all ds3 players are incapable of aiming tho to make your point. It's not that. You literally can't follow a guy who strafe with a keyboard. Even if you have a great eye-fingers coordination you can't follow your target. To strafe with a keyboard you just press "a" "d" for lateral strafe. If you strafe with a ds3 the difference is noticeable, because you see your target strafing "slower" because its change of direction is much slower, letting you track its movement far easier. and...I don't want to talk about mouse sensitivity vs pad sensitivity.
while a mouse has precision over the ds3, a gamepad has much more mobility than a keyboard.
for instance, if i want to throw a grenade, i have to press the x key, which in turn makes me take a finger off wasd. This cannot be rebound lol
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
580
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:45:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Bob Teller wrote:Mouse and keyboard dominate ds3 without aim assist.There was no way to be competitive with a ds3 before.All those crying about aa are try hards who are used to get all those free kills and now thay cant anymore,,,cry more plz.(all console games have aim assist) im pretty sure most ds3 players i play with would tell you otherwise. i guess it is convenient to assume all ds3 players are incapable of aiming tho to make your point. It's not that. You literally can't follow a guy who strafe with a keyboard. Even if you have a great eye-fingers coordination you can't follow your target. To strafe with a keyboard you just press "a" "d" for lateral strafe. If you strafe with a ds3 the difference is noticeable, because you see your target strafing "slower" because its change of direction is much slower, letting you track its movement far easier. and...I don't want to talk about mouse sensitivity vs pad sensitivity. while a mouse has precision over the ds3, a gamepad has much more mobility than a keyboard. for instance, if i want to throw a grenade, i have to press the x key, which in turn makes me take a finger off wasd. This cannot be rebound lol uh? I used my thumb for "x" and the middle finger for both "w" and "s"... Want you try to jump and aim at the same time with a ds3? Or insta-180-Š ? Damn, it takes ages to turn around with a ds3... |
Piraten Hovnoret
BIG BAD W0LVES
56
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:49:00 -
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As a pad user. I had no problem in 1,3. In 1,4 you are dead in less then a a sec regardless of strafe. SP proto or militia it does not mater.
Don't c the point of the blodey SP system. A militia guy is almost as effective as a proto.... And 2 militia takes out at proto easy. Further when you go 1v1 against some one now you are almost dead even if you win, then the other guys comes and you are toast sence your health is lover after your first fire fight.
One way to counter the AA if you want to keep it, is to give armor and shield modules a huge buff ( the rep and recharge ones ). Now I am just shooting from the hip when I give the numbers now, but let's say a complex armor rep would give 15-20 hp a sec. The shield should be buffed in the same blodey way.
Regards from a now semi retired player
Edit; al the nerfimg of guns was made when aim assist was turned off ( not the AR ) that's one of the perimeters of the current problem also. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
442
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:08:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:One thing AA has done it's made the game more 'enjoyable' for ppl who can't play the game otherwise. For everyone else it has ruined the competitive aspect of, you know, a competitive FPS. You mean like CoD or BF3? You know, the biggest FPS of all time? They have AA and you can't turn it off, even if there is a menu. All you can do, is turn it off for the single player.
I did not play those games. Well, 3 matches in COD and one evenining in BF3 and I did not touch either one since then. They are the biggest FPS of all time only in the heads of ppl who play them. AA is for lazy ppl. COD preys on lazy ppl (incidentally the majority of console market) with a demand for self-validation. Also, aim assist is the lazy way of adjusting aiming mechanics. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1838
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:32:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:meri jin wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:One thing AA has done it's made the game more 'enjoyable' for ppl who can't play the game otherwise. For everyone else it has ruined the competitive aspect of, you know, a competitive FPS. You mean like CoD or BF3? You know, the biggest FPS of all time? They have AA and you can't turn it off, even if there is a menu. All you can do, is turn it off for the single player. I did not play those games. Well, 3 matches in COD and one evenining in BF3 and I did not touch either one since then. They are the biggest FPS of all time only in the heads of ppl who play them. AA is for lazy ppl. COD preys on lazy ppl (incidentally the majority of console market) with a demand for self-validation. Also, aim assist is the lazy way of adjusting aiming mechanics.
I see people retreat to the "but its this way in COD" argument and i facepalm every damn time.
your head. pull it out. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
141
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:06:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:People play this game to get away from easy mode COD meatgrinders, or at least a large amount of the above average players I have played with do. I'll make you a deal, if you and "the above average players [you] have played with" all buy $10,000 of game packs every month to keep DUST financially viable/sustainable, then we'll let CCP nerf AA into oblivion so you can run around feeling good about yourselves. using your Kb/M to rack up your K/D ratio.
In order for DUST to even exist this time next year we need to bring in a lot more new blood (and quickly). The #1 complaint I've heard from new players and reviewers are the controls feel bad. We need proper gameplay tutorials too for sure (people don't read walls of text CCP they want to fight right away). Being accessible to newer players is critical to the survival of this game, making you and the above average players you play with feel superiorl isn't.
Removing the 10% buff to all weapon damage would help make fights a little longer, with tank & dps mods playing a larger role in the outcome which should (slightly) favor the vet player in most fights. Since this was originally added to compensate for removing AA at Uprising's launch, it stands to reason that the first change CCP implements would be removing this now unnessisarily addition since they've brought back AA. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4965
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:09:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:you realize strafing is dead in 1.4? ....and? I played MAG really a lot, and strafing was nearly impossible. Why is it a problem if you can't strafe? Mind you, it's not because you are good, it's because you (or your opponent) lag, so you might think "whoa this guy really suck at aiming" or "better than matrix hell yeah". Just adapt your play style. Take cover, shoot, take cover, reload, shoot again. Call your reinforcements because now there's almost no way you can survive a 3 vs 1. Don't get me wrong, I don't consider myself a noob that needs AA to survive (my 4.5 kdr speaks by itself) and even if I'm dying more now, I really find the whole game more enjoyable. If you really like to dodge things there are a lot of games that allows you to. Metal Slug, R-Type etc Dust =/= MAG |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
191
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:20:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote: I'll make you a deal, if you and "the above average players [you] have played with" all buy $10,000 of game packs every month to keep DUST financially viable/sustainable, then we'll let CCP nerf AA into oblivion so you can run around feeling good about yourselves, using your Kb/M to rack up your K/D ratio.
Ill make you a deal, if you and "the below average player [you] have played with" all buy $10,000 of game packs every month to keep DUST finantially viable/sustainable, then we-Šll get CCP to add a wallhack to your aimbot, so you can run around feeling good about yourselves, using AA to rack up your K/D ratio.
Oh and one more thing: This is a ******* computer game, you are supposed to feel good about yourself when you play it. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1842
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:32:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:People play this game to get away from easy mode COD meatgrinders, or at least a large amount of the above average players I have played with do. I'll make you a deal, if you and "the above average players [you] have played with" all buy $10,000 of game packs every month to keep DUST financially viable/sustainable, then we'll let CCP nerf AA into oblivion so you can run around feeling good about yourselves, using your Kb/M to rack up your K/D ratio. In order for DUST to even exist this time next year we need to bring in a lot more new blood (and quickly). The #1 complaint I've heard from new players and reviewers are the controls feel bad. We need proper gameplay tutorials too for sure (people don't read walls of text CCP they want to fight right away). Being accessible to newer players is critical to the survival of this game, making you and the above average players you play with feel superiorl isn't. Removing the 10% buff to all weapon damage would help make fights a little longer, with tank & dps mods playing a larger role in the outcome which should (slightly) favor the vet player in most fights. Since this was originally added to compensate for removing AA at Uprising's launch, it stands to reason that the first change CCP implements would be removing this now unnessisarily addition since they've brought back AA. If this still isn't sufficient, one option would be to reduce AA slightly in FW & PC matches to reward hardcore players. Another option would be giving players who use the controller with AA disabled a 10% SP bonus for being better "superior to everyone else."
having a computer aim for you isnt making the controls feel better. it is taking the controls away. before you get all huffy puffy why not pull your head out of your as.s and see the auto tracking aim assist for what it really is. no one is asking for aim assist to be taken away, it simply needs to be toned down to it doesnt aim for you.
The biggest problem with you people is you think making the game an instant gratification, no skills required game like COD will miraculously fix this game and make people happy. I am sick of COD, it has ruined a genre of gaming, and it breeds players with bad values and a horrible understanding of skill and what constitutes it.
No one gets into a freaking titan in EVE after playing for one week. I hold Dust higher than the other FPSs because it has things that you can actually earn and compensates me for my time investment. CCP will be forsaking their most hardcore fans if they listen to your drivel and the one single game we can still hope for to break the mold and get out of the easy mode gutter will be ruined.
I hope CCP reads this, I am tired of people coming on here demanding things be layed out on a red carpet for them simply because they dont feel they should have to put in as much effort as everyone else has because it is incomvenient.
HTFU |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
143
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:36:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:[quote=Vell0cet]Ill make you a deal, if you and "the below average player [you] have played with" all buy $10,000 of game packs every month to keep DUST finantially viable/sustainable, then we-Šll get CCP to add a wallhack to your aimbot, so you can run around feeling good about yourselves, using AA to rack up your K/D ratio. There are a lot more of us than there there are of you, so if you do the math, we don't need to each spend $10,000. That's kind of the whole f*cking point of the FTP business model. Fights have been closer than I can ever remember them being, and as the OP points out people who were frustrated when they first tried DUST are coming back to it. Appealing to the top 10% of the tiny player base isn't a financially viable business model for DUST.
Quote:Oh and one more thing: This is a ******* computer game, you are supposed to feel good about yourself when you play it. Exactly, and when people fire up DUST to give it a shot despite the lackluster reviews and discover they can't hit for s*it, they uninstall and move on. It's money down the drain for CCP. We need to grow the player base by several orders of magnitude for this game to survive. It's unbelievable that you can't seem to appreciate that. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4968
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:36:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote: having a computer aim for you isnt making the controls feel better. it is taking the controls away. before you get all huffy puffy why not pull your head out of your as.s and see the auto tracking aim assist for what it really is. no one is asking for aim assist to be taken away, it simply needs to be toned down to it doesnt aim for you.
The biggest problem with you people is you think making the game an instant gratification, no skills required game like COD will miraculously fix this game and make people happy. I am sick of COD, it has ruined a genre of gaming, and it breeds players with bad values and a horrible understanding of skill and what constitutes it.
No one gets into a freaking titan in EVE after playing for one week. I hold Dust higher than the other FPSs because it has things that you can actually earn and compensates me for my time investment. CCP will be forsaking their most hardcore fans if they listen to your drivel and the one single game we can still hope for to break the mold and get out of the easy mode gutter will be ruined.
I hope CCP reads this, I am tired of people coming on here demanding things be layed out on a red carpet for them simply because they dont feel they should have to put in as much effort as everyone else has because it is incomvenient.
HTFU
QFTMFT! |
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
414
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:39:00 -
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To summarize the OP's post:
"I suck at the game, my friends suck at the game...we love the massive crutch that aim assist is just like we love to ride bikes with training wheels. It's the first time we're "good" at the game!! Let's ignore everyone who has legit skill and focus on people like us, people who suck without crutches." |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
144
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:59:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Having a computer aim for you isnt making the controls feel better. it is taking the controls away. before you get all huffy puffy why not pull your head out of your as.s and see the auto tracking aim assist for what it really is. no one is asking for aim assist to be taken away, it simply needs to be toned down to it doesnt aim for you.
The biggest problem with you people is you think making the game an instant gratification, no skills required game like COD will miraculously fix this game and make people happy. I am sick of COD, it has ruined a genre of gaming, and it breeds players with bad values and a horrible understanding of skill and what constitutes it.
No one gets into a freaking titan in EVE after playing for one week. I hold Dust higher than the other FPSs because it has things that you can actually earn and compensates me for my time investment. CCP will be forsaking their most hardcore fans if they listen to your drivel and the one single game we can still hope for to break the mold and get out of the easy mode gutter will be ruined.
I hope CCP reads this, I am tired of people coming on here demanding things be layed out on a red carpet for them simply because they dont feel they should have to put in as much effort as everyone else has because it is incomvenient.
HTFU The OP posted links showing that DUST's AA is in line with other console shooters in the industry (weaker than most actually). It's what players expect when they fire up a console shooter. Do you honestly think there is a large enough console player base with "good values", as you put it, to sustain DUST's development? If there are, where the f*ck have they been?
I think you're failing to grasp the basic economics behind a FTP business model: you need a massive pool of players. In order to get a massive pool of players you need to appeal to what they want and expect.
I've posted suggestions on how things could be improved to still reward the top players, you've seem to ignore them. Is it because this is less about competing at the highest levels with players having "good values" and more about your desire to pump up your stats by stomping newbies? |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
326
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Posted - 2013.09.08 09:59:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:To summarize the OP's post:
"I suck at the game, my friends suck at the game...we love the massive crutch that aim assist is just like we love to ride bikes with training wheels. It's the first time we're "good" at the game!! Let's ignore everyone who has legit skill and focus on people like us, people who suck without crutches." Why are you here crying like a little baby? |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
414
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:01:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:To summarize the OP's post:
"I suck at the game, my friends suck at the game...we love the massive crutch that aim assist is just like we love to ride bikes with training wheels. It's the first time we're "good" at the game!! Let's ignore everyone who has legit skill and focus on people like us, people who suck without crutches." Why are you here crying like a little baby?
I'm not crying...I'm stating a FACT.
Why do you keep your head stuck in the sand and pretend everything's alright? |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
326
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:03:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:To summarize the OP's post:
"I suck at the game, my friends suck at the game...we love the massive crutch that aim assist is just like we love to ride bikes with training wheels. It's the first time we're "good" at the game!! Let's ignore everyone who has legit skill and focus on people like us, people who suck without crutches." Why are you here crying like a little baby? I'm not crying...I'm stating a FACT. Why do you keep your head stuck in the sand and pretend everything's alright?
Everyone with eyes can see the game is so much better after 1.4. Most people are having more fun than ever before and still you cry?
Are you a little baby? |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
414
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:06:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:To summarize the OP's post:
"I suck at the game, my friends suck at the game...we love the massive crutch that aim assist is just like we love to ride bikes with training wheels. It's the first time we're "good" at the game!! Let's ignore everyone who has legit skill and focus on people like us, people who suck without crutches." Why are you here crying like a little baby? I'm not crying...I'm stating a FACT. Why do you keep your head stuck in the sand and pretend everything's alright? Are you a little baby?
So your best comeback is an ad hominem attack? And you accuse others of being a baby? The irony is strong in your posts |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
328
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:12:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:To summarize the OP's post:
"I suck at the game, my friends suck at the game...we love the massive crutch that aim assist is just like we love to ride bikes with training wheels. It's the first time we're "good" at the game!! Let's ignore everyone who has legit skill and focus on people like us, people who suck without crutches." Why are you here crying like a little baby? I'm not crying...I'm stating a FACT. Why do you keep your head stuck in the sand and pretend everything's alright? Are you a little baby? So your best comeback is an ad hominem attack? And you accuse others of being a baby? The irony is strong in your posts All those tears make me wonder.. It is so obvious that the game is more user friendly now and will bring in more gamers plus the battles are great at the moment.
Dust514 is moving up but you can-Št see this?
Again.. Are you a little baby? Are you sure you are old enough to play this game (PG18) ?? |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
314
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:13:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:meri jin wrote:
Dust is already hardcore enough. We have a strong death punishment, we have the backstabbing corp and alliance philosophy from eve, we have the as*hole attitude community, and we definitely don't need to make this game even harder.
This game is only "hardcore" to those of simple mind. You put yourself over the most people who are playing this and insulting them at the same moment. The exactly kind of community member I just described. Thank you for this live example. I would like to exclude you out of this discussion but I sadly can't.
Mossellia Delt wrote:CoD and Battlefield arnt competitive on consoles, if you think they are, go to a gaming tourney with big prizes, guess what, they dont have the games and if the remote chance they allow it, its the PC version without AA on.
seriously? Call of Duty Black ops 2 World Championship 2013. Yes it is the xbox360
Beeeees wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Would this mean that your preference of balls to the wall cutthroat also doesn't matter?
My preferences of balls to the wall cutthroat are those of someone who is here to stay no matter what. Isn't this called fanaticism? |
Beeeees
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:13:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote: Appealing to the top 10% of the tiny player base isn't a financially viable business model for DUST.
Appealing to the top 10% is the reason CCP still exists. See EVE.
Vell0cet wrote: Exactly, and when people fire up DUST to give it a shot despite the lackluster reviews and discover they can't hit for s*it, they uninstall and move on. It's money down the drain for CCP. We need to grow the player base by several orders of magnitude for this game to survive. It's unbelievable that you can't seem to appreciate that.
This game does not need an inflow of noskill-CoDshitters that will be gone the second the new CoD is released. We need more content, once we got proper deployables and at least some variety in dropsuits the people will flow in because "wow what an awesome game", and not because "HAY BRUV CHECK OUT COD:BLOPS 514". |
R'adeh Hunt
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What on earth are you talking about? It's not more user friendly!
They didn't "fix" anything, they just handed bad players (like you apparently) a massive crutch so they suddenly feel "good". That's like shooting arrows from 2m in front of a target before claiming you're "good". It's ridiculous, it removes all skill from the game. If CCP's goal is to bring more players into the game by making it easier for players who suck, why should people with skill still around? Hell, why care about skill anyway now...it doesn't take any in Dust.
Also, to pretend accepting this huge crutch is a sign of maturity is ridiculous...you can't possibly be serious. No one's that disingenuous and dumb.
Just admit the facts: You suck at aiming and the game in general, but thanks to the crutch that aim assist is, you now suddenly feel "good". That good feeling isn't based on skill though, and that's sad. |
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