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Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 368	Posted - 2013.08.30 19:14:00 - [1] - Quote What was the complaint about the 3x sp event, other than it not starting at downtime on wednesday ? I understand you wanting to try to spice things up a bit, but that is exactly what an sp event does, you don't need to change the format. The 2x event wasn't worth logging in for, and it seems again you're over complicating things. Just make it start on the wednesday after downtime, make it a 2x or 3x event (depending how much you want to bonus people), it's up to you if you want it to sustain after cap either 2000 or 3000 without booster and 3000 or 4500 with booster (this is where numbers can get high for those that can grind 23.5 / 7) or half the bonus to 1.5x or 2x after cap if you want to incentivise those while reigning them back from running away too far ... up to you ... and there's still no problem adding it to a pool to be given out after the event if that's how you want to do it this time. As someone has said above, it might be a good idea to post these things first for feedback before creating an event out of it ... I honestly haven't been incentivised since the last 3x event and we've had what ? Mordu's Challenge (rewarding nothing I'm skilled to use), a 2x event (I played a couple battles and saw no benefit other than an increased cap ... not everyone can cap at 1x in a week) and Kameiras' Objective (simply an AFK promotion - AFK till end of match, if winning go get 2 kills, anytime it looks like losing leave and join another !) Keep it simple ... reward people for playing how they play ... not for changing it like a logistics having to blow up installations or a vehicle pilot having to hack stuff ... the only real way to do it is boosting their end of match rewards. How about incentivising team play by doubling your sp provided you're in a squad of 3 or more, or maybe something tripling wp gains from matches. Either way you're trying to make it fancy when it just needs to be rewarding.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 369	Posted - 2013.08.30 19:37:00 - [2] - Quote Can anyone even remember why we have an sp over time setup in the first place ... with a proper matchmaking system will it still be necessary ? Best I can figure it was to reward those that weren't so good and struggled to get a couple hundred wp while others were getting a few thousand ... surely a better matchmaking and improvements to rewards for DS pilots etc. should see a more even distribution of the wp in a match and therefore less need for sp over time ! Unless anyone knows any other reasons for it ?
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 369	Posted - 2013.08.30 20:52:00 - [3] - Quote Skihids wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: Again, seems like the safest way to maximize your SP gains until you cap is to AFK ambushes to make sure you earn no more than 3k a match. Can anyone even remember why we have an sp over time setup in the first place ... with a proper matchmaking system will it still be necessary ? Best I can figure it was to reward those that weren't so good and struggled to get a couple hundred wp while others were getting a few thousand ... surely a better matchmaking and improvements to rewards for DS pilots etc. should see a more even distribution of the wp in a match and therefore less need for sp over time ! Unless anyone knows any other reasons for it ? We don't have a working matchmaking system, nor do we have a balanced WP reward system. Thus we can't rely upon performance measures for SP purposes. You seem to be misunderstanding tenses ... I was talking in the future tense with words like 'will it still be' and ' should see' ... you're talking in present tense 'We don't have' I see your error ! Edit : by the way, the patch notes are here if you haven't seen them ... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104023
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 371	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:51:00 - [4] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Have you read the patch notes lately? There will be some anti-AFK measures in place. Yeah AFK isn't really the right phrase, but it's an easy (and trendy I guess) way to say 'avoid gaining active sp in battle' ... I suppose it's one way to test functiionality of these anti-AFK measures ... give us an event that promotes the 'hunt for a loophole' Should have just called apples apples and given an extra bonus sp for finding ways round it lol.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 378	Posted - 2013.08.31 12:31:00 - [5] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Just keep in mind that there might be some secret algorithm to the anti-AFK mechanic. One of the devs (I forgot which) mentioned that that it will be rubber band proof in some way. By rubber band proof they could mean that the system might be able to tell the difference between a player trying to walk to an objective and a player just walking endlessly into a wall in the MCC because the player put a rubber band on his DS3. Yeah I suggested this originally, but as General John Ripper (quoted below) says, there are other ways to AFK ( by which I mean not contribute to the battle in order to avoid gaining active wp for the purpose of this event) like LLAVs running round avoiding kills or dropships burning through the skies or running round the redline ... I'm not saying any of them would be much fun, but the structure of this event as proposed seems to be encouraging this kind of game(non)play, and there will be plenty who want to maximize the gain since there are no alternative ways to close the gap on us vets. I might be tempted myself since I've been offline for a while due to boredom with all my skills in armor tanking and Swarms not being challenging and flaylocks being unable to register damage since the nerf etc. currently this looks like an opportunity to recoup some loses on those that don't want to maximise the bonuses. Hopefully it will be adjusted since the devs have acknowledged our concerns early, if not I might run a DUST Olympics, starting with the redline marathon followed by dropship/LLAV races, skydiving, base jumping and all sorts. General John Ripper wrote: I am just going to call in my indestructible murder taxi and drive around every ambush map. ill try not to run anyone over.... just drive. How much for a weekend saver ticket ? @ Nirwanda Vaughns - the bonus sp does not affect your cap, since you won't be getting it till after the event anyway, it's just going into a pot and being released to you at some point ... it shouldn't even affect your cap if you haven't reached it by then, it will just be added directly to your unallocated total.

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