Render all players all the time. Find some other way to optimize. Not rendering players might improve the framerate, but this is far from optimization. This is damaging the game.

I really don't understand why people are so upset about not being able to see players, or being able to see them but never hit. I use laser rifles and since the patch, everything I see remains rather safe as I don't have the range to hit it, nor the ability to see it through my pretty iron sights.
Not being as much of an ass as it seems, I really can see player models all the way across the map. However I usually have to look for them, they don't just appear as though I'm using binoculars for everything. A players inability to instantly see everything on the battlefield isn't really all that bad of a thing. All in all, I'd have to say I'm for it remaining as it is.
Oh, and CCP, please rename Dust 514 to AR Win. At least then we can stop pretending there's a rock paper scissors element and everyone can get themselves a shiny assault rifle with a winmatar logi suit.

Hi,

Thank you for the feedback. I believe what you're experiencing is the side effect of an optimization we did in Uprising.

The optimization is about only simulating the characters within certain distance around your local player, which is a very common technique for games that have large maps. The view distance is partially tied to the weapon the player is using since for instance players using an assault rifle don't need to see as far as snipers.

I'll talk to the relevant devs about this. In the meantime, can you guys provide a list of weapons that are most annoying?

While you're at it, ask them how an enemy player can stand next to you and shoot you and not show on your scanner...

Thanks in advance.
Bill

Your are a beta tester. Your job is to play the game at find bugs then report. How cant you understand that?

This bug seems to be fixed or at least a whole lot better with today's hot fixes. Can a DEV confirm if any thing was changed.

Hi,

We recently removed the Z component when calculating the distance between the player and other units so the culling would behave the same regardless of the relative elevation between the two.

I believe that change was deployed as part of the server update yesterday and most likely caused the improvement you experienced.

Our long term goal is still to optimize the processing of each unit as much as possible so the client can afford simulating (not just rendering but also animation, logic, networking etc) more units at the same time and hopefully we can change the culling to what used to be in Chromosome.

Please trust me, this issue was not forgotten or overlooked, we just need the time to fix it without affecting client performance too much.

With that said: on which map, and in which game mode did you get those 36 kills?

Getting this a lot when sniping from buildings. You have this clear view of the whole field... and very very few people are rendered. I'd say it's been a factor on EVERY level that I've sniped, so it's not just a Manus Peak problem, or what have you.

For me, it seems somewhere around the 300m area (half the range of the sniper rifle, basically) people stop rendering. It results in some quirks like people backstepping slightly and disappearing, and suddenly appearing later.

In one particularly amusing instance, both myself and enemy snipers had set up on the towers on opposite sides of Line Harvest. So, these fellows were eye-level, straight across from me. However, none of them rendered unless they stepped onto the inclined part of the tower facing me. If they backpedaled, they vanished.

Similarly, in Spine Crescent, sniping from a tower in the main complex, the people on the roofs of E and D weren't rendering.

I've also had people not rendering when using the Scrambler, despite them being in range (per the HUD information), and that sort of thing. This is really really really really really bad right now. I thought going to 480p might make people render at further distances (since you don't really need the optimization when the graphics are so much poorer), but it was just as bad.

+3

Thank you Laferrari and all the Dev's. We know you all are working hard and are grateful for it.

It gets worse. I had a situation recently where an enemy Sniper could see me, but I could not see him. My squadmate, right beside me could not see the enemy either, but the enemy could not see my squadmate either, just me.

Now, I know, many are going to ask how I know this. Well, here's what happened. I'm on top of a building, so I have a clear line of sight. I get sniped, so I move to cover. I wait for my shields, and again go for exposure to shoot the enemy sniper. Again, as soon as I'm exposed, I get hit. I do this as many as 5 or 6 times, all while observing where the shots are coming from. Next, I move to my squadmate, also on the same building, and also on the lookout for the enemy sniper. This time I expose myself by moving to the side, and I'm actually behind my squadmate. I still get hit as soon as I'm exposed, but my squadmate, also exposed, does not get hit, nor can he see the enemy sniper.

Please fix this.

I just want to say, the support from the community is much appreciated and needed :)

Hi,

Thank you for the feedback. I believe what you're experiencing is the side effect of an optimization we did in Uprising.

The optimization is about only simulating the characters within certain distance around your local player, which is a very common technique for games that have large maps. The view distance is partially tied to the weapon the player is using since for instance players using an assault rifle don't need to see as far as snipers.

I'll talk to the relevant devs about this. In the meantime, can you guys provide a list of weapons that are most annoying?