Oh hi, sorry I thought this topic was about Tank vs tank combat and railguns, not infantry expressing their hatred of tanks and how anything that kills tanks is good and completely balanced.

And yes when I call out a blaster tank I know someone can call a rail tank, which is why on certain maps I don't, I call a rail tank and become what I hate most, a redline rail sniper picking off ppl while being the next best thing to untouchable, which I am sure infantry just love.

I haven't said that at all you ignorant toss pot.

"Oh I hate it because it unbalances tank v tank fights, but I know when I should be using it instead of a normal tank build"

that's basically what you, and/or this entire topic's tankers have said, paraphrased.

and guess what, that glass cannon tank is just that, glass. get to some cover and tell your team where it was shooting from to get a guy with a forge gun, or a railgun emplacement after it. 2-3 shots and bam, no more glass cannon problem.

I swear, sometimes people think they're the only ones on the team.

I have driven tanks, I have gunned for tankers, I've flown dropships, i've gunned in them, and even just hitched a ride to drop into the fight faster.

I prefer running around because it's easier, I'm a smaller target, and I prefer quietly moving around the field, taking gun emplacements from the enemy, and causing problems away from the objective unless I can find a couple teammates to work with(I'm no one man wrecking crew, my aim is generally crap unless I'm using something with really big bullets)

Its not about the tank itself.. it's about its impact on tank v tank fights. A 700 K tank with complete glass cannon fit can obliterate a 2 million ISK tank from across the map with no effort at all, and no risk because it's behind the redline.

Also, I have a Sagaris on one character, and complete infantry on my main, so I've been on both sides of the fight between infantry/tanks.

That's my whole problem it doesn't work. What you don't realize is that 2 million ISK tanks can be 3 shotted by a glass tank costing less than a million, all from the safety of the redline. The only way we managed to kill it was by getting an OB.

things are never as simple as that, there are more things to consider than just tank vs tank battles, you guys (tankers) know that the best, what i'm saying is while your suggestions might make sense for tanks it could also cause a problem somewhere else in the game, for example nerf railguns too hard and all we will see are blaster tanks, the best anti-infantry tank with no hard counter.

But then isn't that half the point of the fittings menu? to allow you to customize vehicle/suits to specific roles. You deployed a well tanked anti infantry tank costing 2m+ and the enemy deployed a glass canon with a high dps but no tank costing less than 1mil to counter you, it's tactics, it's the system working as intended.

This is a gamebreaking turret on tanks. It promotes camping like a little b**** (cough* chaos mistress and 0tryhard514* cough)and sniping any tanks willing to put up resistance. Railgun tanks do way to much damage for the little risk they take, and can 1 shot basically anything. Large Railgun 80 GJ or whatever can 3 shot most enemy tanks.

This is the one turret that is killing tank on tank combat. Please drastically change it.

invest more heavily in your armor then? or use cheaper tanks? those glass tanks are built specifically as a hard counter to your tank. and basically any heavy armor on the field. railguns are bad against infantry that knows it's there, too accurate for their own good, and too slow to turn.

also, rail emplacements still hit just as hard out past the redline.

so basically, counter the counter with teamwork. or bigger guns.

That's my whole problem it doesn't work. What you don't realize is that 2 million ISK tanks can be 3 shotted by a glass tank costing less than a million, all from the safety of the redline. The only way we managed to kill it was by getting an OB.

lol they dont understand.

your so ignorant its kind of funny. you do realize you can get a miltia shield tank to do like 6000 damage a shot thats bs. Railgun ruin tank vs tank gameplay. Its stupid that you can take a miltia tank and **** a proto tank because of the railguns broken damage!

again ill repeat the railgun isnt the problem
ur new to tankin so it might seem that way but it isnt
when i started tankin rail fights never was a 2-3 shot kill it took skill and coordination, 2v2 tank fights were the best thing ever for me in DUST during that build because u had to coordinate with another tanker and focus fire as well to get a well fitted tank down. Not anymore.

With passive dmg being added to skills (thanks EVE guys!) and broken dmg mods u do a ridiculous amount of dmg which end all rail fights in like 6 secs. Its no longer fun for me because its not very skillful imho.

Its like cod fights but with tanks 1st to shoot wins, or camp it up and peek.
what worries me is the dmg mods been broken for like 5-6 months now like WTF

0 tryhard is pretty pathetic. i killed him twice almost 3 times but game ended saving his life and he killed me twice and then sends me this long msg on how i suck. he lost 2 gunnlogis and then pulled out sagaris as third tank. i lost wat 2 madugers and my third was also a maduger. and he camped in the redline the whole game. the reason he sent me hatemail was because i sent him a GG msg. it's sad really.

I would take 0tryharder over just about any other railgun tanker in game.

He just started tanking this build and already has a hate thread about him

I'm jealous

your so ignorant its kind of funny. you do realize you can get a miltia shield tank to do like 6000 damage a shot thats bs. Railgun ruin tank vs tank gameplay. Its stupid that you can take a miltia tank and **** a proto tank because of the railguns broken damage!

Only time i've come up against him he just hid in the spawn and sniped us with his tank, he actually sent us a mail apologising for his tactics afterwards, but his railgun is lethal

I say the same thing about dropships. We are like 30 thousand years into the future, build ships that travel faster than light, ships that are kilometers long and you are telling me they are still using VTOL craft for planetary warfare? Something seems a bit off.

Probably wasn't squaded and had terrible blue dots, (I do the same in that situation, Although I make some "drive bys" for shucks, because its not a tactic I'm fond of)

I'm not sure how else you would design an aircraft designed to drop units into cramped hotzones...

What would you have 'em do instead?

yeah just a load of reddots we redlined pretty quickly, but he had a forge gunner on his team with a ridiculous dps, it one shotted my 4k hp myron

Or give me an Osprey like craft that as more control in the air and able to make banking turns but is capable of landing in a hover to drop off troops. But it's a helicopter.

I feel for dropship pilots, they don't have enough hitpoints to stay in the air and no weapons to protect themselves