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slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.03 21:24:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:This is a gamebreaking turret on tanks. It promotes camping like a little b**** (cough* chaos mistress and 0tryhard514* cough)and sniping any tanks willing to put up resistance. Railgun tanks do way to much damage for the little risk they take, and can 1 shot basically anything. Large Railgun 80 GJ or whatever can 3 shot most enemy tanks.
This is the one turret that is killing tank on tank combat. Please drastically change it.
Sounds like a scrub tank driver got owned, URA ready to CB us yet or do you still have your dodging skills maxed??????????? |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:38:00 -
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This whole thread boils down to an Anti Infantry tank driver QQ, about how a Tank Destroyer (Shield Glass Cannon Fits) did its job and killed them.
Rails are the hard counter to blaster tanks
If the rail gets nerfed again, all that you will see on the field is armor blasters, Shields
UA how bout a corp battle?
I won't even participate we will let 0tryharder wreck you some more.
P.S. how do I not have a hate thread about me yet, I've been railgun tanking for months now
Edit: everyone QQing about the militia glass cannon, they sacrificed all of its tank to gank you, AV infantry should be able to kill them easily "Teamwork Yo" |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:45:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:The legend345 wrote:gbghg wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote: Odd, that gives me enough time to call out that they have a tank, and run to the nearest supply depot(yes, run. I don't drive well) to grab my Forge Gun and scare the hell out of them and keep em in hiding for the rest of the match.
turns out you tank guys are oddly protective of your supposedly invincible, god-tier, ultimate weapons.
Thats awesome dude I wish i could drive my tank up to a supply depot and swap my blaster for a railgun, then I could HTFU and deal with it like the guy who doesn't even have a dog in the fight. Please just shut up, infantry AV can have a big effect on tank fights, and before you go all arrogant on us we may not be directly involved in most cases but we definitely have an interest in the outcome, when you tankers drop 2+ tanks onto a match full of randoms your only response is "qq more". when a tank comes out to play, we deal with it. and btw when you call out a blaster tank you are fully aware that someone on the other team might call out a railgun tank to counter you your so ignorant its kind of funny. you do realize you can get a miltia shield tank to do like 6000 damage a shot thats bs. Railgun ruin tank vs tank gameplay. Its stupid that you can take a miltia tank and **** a proto tank because of the railguns broken damage! again ill repeat the railgun isnt the problem ur new to tankin so it might seem that way but it isnt when i started tankin rail fights never was a 2-3 shot kill it took skill and coordination, 2v2 tank fights were the best thing ever for me in DUST during that build because u had to coordinate with another tanker and focus fire as well to get a well fitted tank down. Not anymore. With passive dmg being added to skills (thanks EVE guys!) and broken dmg mods u do a ridiculous amount of dmg which end all rail fights in like 6 secs. Its no longer fun for me because its not very skillful imho. Its like cod fights but with tanks 1st to shoot wins, or camp it up and peek. what worries me is the dmg mods been broken for like 5-6 months now like WTF
I thought the stacking penalty was working on vehicles, (Would anyone want to set up a mock corp battle to do some testing with me?)
its the skills that effect damage that make rails the go to. But if you nerf the rails damage all you will see are suryas with blasters
Unless CCP changes the sagaris maurader skill effects rails |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:48:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This is a gamebreaking turret on tanks. It promotes camping like a little b**** (cough* chaos mistress and 0tryhard514* cough)and sniping any tanks willing to put up resistance. Railgun tanks do way to much damage for the little risk they take, and can 1 shot basically anything. Large Railgun 80 GJ or whatever can 3 shot most enemy tanks.
This is the one turret that is killing tank on tank combat. Please drastically change it. 0 tryhard is pretty pathetic. i killed him twice almost 3 times but game ended saving his life and he killed me twice and then sends me this long msg on how i suck. he lost 2 gunnlogis and then pulled out sagaris as third tank. i lost wat 2 madugers and my third was also a maduger. and he camped in the redline the whole game. the reason he sent me hatemail was because i sent him a GG msg. it's sad really.
I would take 0tryharder over just about any other railgun tanker in game.
He just started tanking this build and already has a hate thread about him
I'm jealous |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:58:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:gbghg wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote: Odd, that gives me enough time to call out that they have a tank, and run to the nearest supply depot(yes, run. I don't drive well) to grab my Forge Gun and scare the hell out of them and keep em in hiding for the rest of the match.
turns out you tank guys are oddly protective of your supposedly invincible, god-tier, ultimate weapons.
Thats awesome dude I wish i could drive my tank up to a supply depot and swap my blaster for a railgun, then I could HTFU and deal with it like the guy who doesn't even have a dog in the fight. Please just shut up, infantry AV can have a big effect on tank fights, and before you go all arrogant on us we may not be directly involved in most cases but we definitely have an interest in the outcome, when you tankers drop 2+ tanks onto a match full of randoms your only response is "qq more". when a tank comes out to play, we deal with it. and btw when you call out a blaster tank you are fully aware that someone on the other team might call out a railgun tank to counter you your so ignorant its kind of funny. you do realize you can get a miltia shield tank to do like 6000 damage a shot thats bs. Railgun ruin tank vs tank gameplay. Its stupid that you can take a miltia tank and **** a proto tank because of the railguns broken damage!
Your forgetting to take into account how much that militant tank costs to fit to do that (I'm not ingame right now but I'm guessing around 700.000+isk) That is a pure glass cannon fit that you can't fit any tank on. Your argument is for blasters any well fit shield rail tank will kill that militant tank, And that militant tank isn't much of a threat cause AV infantry can kill it easily. |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 01:01:00 -
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gbghg wrote:slap26 wrote:BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This is a gamebreaking turret on tanks. It promotes camping like a little b**** (cough* chaos mistress and 0tryhard514* cough)and sniping any tanks willing to put up resistance. Railgun tanks do way to much damage for the little risk they take, and can 1 shot basically anything. Large Railgun 80 GJ or whatever can 3 shot most enemy tanks.
This is the one turret that is killing tank on tank combat. Please drastically change it. 0 tryhard is pretty pathetic. i killed him twice almost 3 times but game ended saving his life and he killed me twice and then sends me this long msg on how i suck. he lost 2 gunnlogis and then pulled out sagaris as third tank. i lost wat 2 madugers and my third was also a maduger. and he camped in the redline the whole game. the reason he sent me hatemail was because i sent him a GG msg. it's sad really. I would take 0tryharder over just about any other railgun tanker in game. He just started tanking this build and already has a hate thread about him I'm jealous Only time i've come up against him he just hid in the spawn and sniped us with his tank, he actually sent us a mail apologising for his tactics afterwards, but his railgun is lethal
Probably wasn't squaded and had terrible blue dots, (I do the same in that situation, Although I make some "drive bys" for shucks, because its not a tactic I'm fond of) |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 01:12:00 -
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gbghg wrote:yeah just a load of reddots we redlined pretty quickly, but he had a forge gunner on his team with a ridiculous dps, it one shotted my 4k hp myron
I feel for dropship pilots, they don't have enough hitpoints to stay in the air and no weapons to protect themselves |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 02:29:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Oi now listen up you armor tanking scrub: railguns are fine, you have 2 times more HP then my shield tank so stop complaining about it and get good. You choosed the wrong path and now you want to nerf the main reason to spec into shield tanks? Not my fault that armor tanks have crappy DPS. Get good scrub and you better hide your tank from me. It just go real.
Dark hit the nail on the head, what we have is an armor tanker complaining about the turret that kills him.
UA dodging skill lvl 5 |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 03:03:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:slap26 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:
again ill repeat the railgun isnt the problem ur new to tankin so it might seem that way but it isnt when i started tankin rail fights never was a 2-3 shot kill it took skill and coordination, 2v2 tank fights were the best thing ever for me in DUST during that build because u had to coordinate with another tanker and focus fire as well to get a well fitted tank down. Not anymore.
With passive dmg being added to skills (thanks EVE guys!) and broken dmg mods u do a ridiculous amount of dmg which end all rail fights in like 6 secs. Its no longer fun for me because its not very skillful imho.
Its like cod fights but with tanks 1st to shoot wins, or camp it up and peek. what worries me is the dmg mods been broken for like 5-6 months now like WTF
I thought the stacking penalty was working on vehicles, (Would anyone want to set up a mock corp battle to do some testing with me?) its the skills that effect damage that make rails the go to. But if you nerf the rails damage all you will see are suryas with blasters Unless CCP changes the sagaris maurader skill effects rails nope i did the math and it doesnt add up pre wipe id one shot a drop ship with over 5500 HP i know cuz it was a Zion dude who pm'd me asking wtf i had on my tank to drop 5500 HP in 1 hit so im positive i was doin more than 5500 and not exact and this btw was with L.Hybrid turret prof only on lvl 2 not maxed dmg mods + passive skill dmg ruined how the old good rail fights tbh
At the end of last build with prof 5 and 3 10% damage mods I was hitting for 5400, Do you want to set up a mock corp battle and we will just test stuff?
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slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 03:17:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:slap26 wrote:This whole thread boils down to an Anti Infantry tank driver QQ, about how a Tank Destroyer (Shield Glass Cannon Fits) did its job and killed them. Rails are the hard counter to blaster tanks If the rail gets nerfed again, all that you will see on the field is armor blasters, Shields UA how bout a corp battle? I won't even participate we will let 0tryharder wreck you some more. P.S. how do I not have a hate thread about me yet? I've been railgun tanking for months now Edit: everyone QQing about the militia glass cannon, they sacrificed all of its tank to gank you, AV infantry should be able to kill them easily "Teamwork Yo" What part o red line do you not ******* understand?
So that's a NO on the CB then???????
QQ about getting killed some more........... |
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slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 05:20:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:slap26 wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:slap26 wrote:This whole thread boils down to an Anti Infantry tank driver QQ, about how a Tank Destroyer (Shield Glass Cannon Fits) did its job and killed them. Rails are the hard counter to blaster tanks If the rail gets nerfed again, all that you will see on the field is armor blasters, Shields UA how bout a corp battle? I won't even participate we will let 0tryharder wreck you some more. P.S. how do I not have a hate thread about me yet? I've been railgun tanking for months now Edit: everyone QQing about the militia glass cannon, they sacrificed all of its tank to gank you, AV infantry should be able to kill them easily "Teamwork Yo" What part o red line do you not ******* understand? So that's a NO on the CB then??????? QQ about getting killed some more........... I'd rather not stroke your epeen while I'm in general discussions making a legitimate discussion. Also, how about infantry only, me vs you 1 on 1?
I'll 1 v 1 you, say 1,000,000 isk first to 10
and if my scrubby tank driving ass beats you UA has to corp battle us |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.04 05:22:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:slap26 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:slap26 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:
again ill repeat the railgun isnt the problem ur new to tankin so it might seem that way but it isnt when i started tankin rail fights never was a 2-3 shot kill it took skill and coordination, 2v2 tank fights were the best thing ever for me in DUST during that build because u had to coordinate with another tanker and focus fire as well to get a well fitted tank down. Not anymore.
With passive dmg being added to skills (thanks EVE guys!) and broken dmg mods u do a ridiculous amount of dmg which end all rail fights in like 6 secs. Its no longer fun for me because its not very skillful imho.
Its like cod fights but with tanks 1st to shoot wins, or camp it up and peek. what worries me is the dmg mods been broken for like 5-6 months now like WTF
I thought the stacking penalty was working on vehicles, (Would anyone want to set up a mock corp battle to do some testing with me?) its the skills that effect damage that make rails the go to. But if you nerf the rails damage all you will see are suryas with blasters Unless CCP changes the sagaris maurader skill effects rails nope i did the math and it doesnt add up pre wipe id one shot a drop ship with over 5500 HP i know cuz it was a Zion dude who pm'd me asking wtf i had on my tank to drop 5500 HP in 1 hit so im positive i was doin more than 5500 and not exact and this btw was with L.Hybrid turret prof only on lvl 2 not maxed dmg mods + passive skill dmg ruined how the old good rail fights tbh At the end of last build with prof 5 and 3 10% damage mods I was hitting for 5400, Do you want to set up a mock corp battle and we will just test stuff? at the end of the last build after ccp tweaked vehicle CPU and PG i ended up rockin 2 dmg mods instead and was still 2 shottin and at TOPS 3 shottin every tank high end or not. the mods are def broken tbh passive skills should not add dmg but add something else to each turret let turret operation alone affect dmg let L.Hybrid turrets affect heat build up or sum idk but skills that add dmg shorten fights even with all my mods goin i will get 3 shotted on my main surya fit which makes no sense when im suppose to be negating way a **** load of ur dmg with resistances. mock battle im down ill prob be takin it easy this week tho since we're out no need for us to go hard atm just back to reg boring ole dust now lol
aight I'll get with you next weekend, im thinking just drop in somas with proto rails and test the differences on CRU's
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Posted - 2013.03.04 06:51:00 -
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I've got an alt
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Posted - 2013.03.04 23:12:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:This is a gamebreaking turret on tanks. It promotes camping like a little b**** (cough* chaos mistress and 0tryhard514* cough)and sniping any tanks willing to put up resistance. Railgun tanks do way to much damage for the little risk they take, and can 1 shot basically anything. Large Railgun 80 GJ or whatever can 3 shot most enemy tanks.
This is the one turret that is killing tank on tank combat. Please drastically change it. 1. If an 80GJ Railgun can three shot most enemy tanks, then call me a pirate and roast me over a grill. Unless the enemy tank is completely unarmored (2200-2600 EHP) and you have damage modifications, this isn't going to happen. 2. Railguns fire too slowly and the splash damage is too pitiful. Campers are better off using blasters which still have decent range and a much higher rate of fire. 3. I don't know, +300,000 ISK is pretty expensive, and that's the on the lower end of the scale. Further more, no place is safe from swarm launchers. In the open? They can target you very easily. In the dense underbrush? They can outmaneuver you easily. My sagaris tank had 6000 shields, 1000 armor, and a shield resist was engaged. Maybe some swarms had me down to 5000 shields, but he cut through me no problem. Also, tryhard killed my Sica in one shot straight from behind his redline all the way back near the initial CRU, while I was at objective C on manus peak. Again, I don't give two ***** about the infantry part, but railguns promote camping, and everyone knows it.
That is a terrible sagaris fit....
And all this QQ came from 0tryharder outplaying you in tank vs tank combat |
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:10:00 -
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Just made a TD soma fit to figure out the cost, it's 806,000 ISK or so. Seems balanced to me, it has absolutely no tank so its easy to kill. |
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