They are "focusing on player count" by making us ALL play with iron sights....you guys sound like a bunch of sissys complaining sbout the iron sights BUT YOU'RE SO GOOD RIGHT....FPS GODS RIGHT?Then why does it phase you at all....cuz yer fkn exploit mod controller using bitches...Dont try to act like yer some fuking self rightous expert on FPS shooter games you fkn hack....WHHAAAA MY CREO WHAAA MY TAC WHHA IRON SIGHTS....fuckin grow up you winey *****.....What game doesnt have muzzle rise these days for a gun that does more damage or slowere ROF....WOW this is fking hilarious.....dont see you guys talking all the **** about a 25 million dollar corp match now do I? scrub

Where's CCP's thoughts on all this and there reasonings - we can say whatever we like and it could be true or supported by biased opinions, it really doesn't matter if CCP had a plan all along for what they've done and we don't understand it.

and I had no idea about AR proto nerf.

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Nonfactor forum trash posting incompetent troll responses.
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I got one more thing to say before i leave this QQ whine ***** fest thread..
if you WERE so bad ass with the TACS before and you didnt use modded controlers and they have scopes now...... then ....
whats the problem?

STFU,HTFU AND ADAPT OR DIE

No, I FTFY. You idiots are trolling your own thread and then perpetuating the trolling by continuing to respond to the trolls, and being blatantly hypocritical in the process of bitching about the trolls. And at least the trolling from others is funny.

You're just whining about the AR. It's perfectly fine and rebalanced with the other weapons now. Before, it was just put dot on target, wait for target to die, since the thing had no recoil at all. Not that it really matters much, since this is a beta.

So quit whining about having to use skill with an AR now.

I'm a Mid level (at best) players talking themselves up and raging at Imperfects indirectly for reasons that have nothing to do with AR.

Case in point. Thanks for helping others understand what I was saying.

LOL I said that, so what? I'm not being hypocritical about my intentions or what I meant by it. I'm a casual player and I can still at least do as well as your members.

Online fps games were ar is not central.

Halo, ar is present but other weapons overshadow, although other rifles are popular.
Unreal, no ar at all
Doom, base weapon is a ar but htat style of shooter the base is normally weakest.
painkiller, no ar at all
Resistance, no ar at all, only battle rifles.
Call of duty games set in WWII, only ar is the stg44
Battlefield games set in WWII, only ar is the stg44

Each race needs a general purpose assault weapon. The ar is the Gallente weapon for this, other 3 races need there own for the same role. Amarr being laser rifle and/or scrambler, caldari being Gauss rifle. Minmatar will have something, I personally hope something like a sci-fi browning automatic rifle from wwii.

The scope being changed out will help once we get that option.

I think the main problem is the recoil makes the barrel rise but not return after a burst. I checked MAG, Boarderlands 2, and Killzone 3 to see if I was remembering wrong, they all had the barrel fall after firing stopped. Repeated bursts in dust keep raising the barrel, but it never lowers.

if this was changed so the barrel lowered after firing stopped it would help. The recoil and dispersion seem to be done separably, so if the gun recovered the muzzle rise after pause, but not to exact spot from dispersion it would be much better.

...or a good player with the Tac AR
...or a Sniper Rifle
...or a Mass Driver in the right hands
...or effective use of cover
...or a cheap HAV
...or a decent LAV
...or a Dropship

Lol, most of you should be seriously embarrassed by this thread.

Nonfactor forum trash posting incompetent troll responses.

Mid level (at best) players talking themselves up and raging at Imperfects indirectly for reasons that have nothing to do with AR.

Having played with and against G-slick he is a way better player than most anyone in this thread.

Take Away Message - You're bad and you should practice more at both forum and this videogame.

Keep posting.

Sorry but when was the last time you saw a sniper in any FPS dancing around the battlezone like a unicorn? They killed you, probably more than once: deal with it.