We've been waiting forever for this, I have been swayed to a kick out passengers function only if it follows certain parameters:

One: can't deploy in redzone

Two: sp loss for thet deployed troop's death if it occurs within 10 seconds of deployment

Three: negation of forward inertia so it can't be used to sling shot friendlies

Four: complete overhaul of collision damage for obvious reasons

Pick up a full load of mercs using mobile clone reserve unit -- fly deep into the red -- kick them all out -- use an afterburner to get back before counter ends. Rinse. Repeat.

I could get on board with this for one of my alts.

- Warning, you cannot do this here!

It's that simple.

Then over the waste vats, or directly in front of two enemy HAVs. One or two might survive, but I'm sure the rest will be just as dead.

Then over the waste vats, or directly in front of two enemy HAVs. One or two might survive, but I'm sure the rest will be just as dead.

real cozy once more AA comes in especially some futuristic AA, i think if people were aware that comms are off by default you wouldnt have this problem at all

Pick up a full load of mercs using mobile clone reserve unit -- fly deep into the red -- kick them all out -- use an afterburner to get back before counter ends. Rinse. Repeat.

I could get on board with this for one of my alts.

Bad idea other than a simple green light

Care to elaborate? Would be helpful

We can have a greenlight that goes off for two seconds, and then ejects people. It means I don't have to stop trying to make a random notice that I want him to drop, it also gives DS pilots the ability to play the part of a Transport vehicle in public matches.

It's highly exploitable as you could drop frendlies into a situation where they have no chance of life and evade punishment easily, so only the green light is a good idea

And when some ***hole starts dropping people onto tanks and in the LOS of installations, I bet you'll still defend this terrible proposition.

Then over the waste vats, or directly in front of two enemy HAVs. One or two might survive, but I'm sure the rest will be just as dead.

An auto warning system when a DS is targeted by AA weapons - BIG RED SIGNAL IN THE HUD - Lock established abandon ship

+1 op

The reason why it should be forced is because most blue dots do not use communications so if the dropship is going to be taken down by swarm launchers and the blue dots inside dont know they have to bail out when the dropship is on fire the pilot yelling at them to "BAIL OUT BAIL OUT" will get at least - 100 points for the blue dots that did not know when to bail out that got killed. This Eject feature would be looking out for the safety of the pilot and the passengers of the vehicle. It would also make squading better and taking an objective better when they are all sitting and deployed all at once. So they work together to take one objective instead of bailing out whenever they want to or not at all.

Well who's to say that there isnt an a**hole that will have a dropship with A CRU in it so people can spawn in it just to crash it to troll. I know there is people out there that will do this but this is directed to the majority of dropship pilots that are not F**king Idiots.

Vermaak, you're concentrating on the negatives, the possibilities that morons will decide to troll with this feature. The problem is, what do you want Dropship Pilots to be? Gone forever, never to actually be utilized properly?

We can remove the ability when entering a redzone, that one sorted. You're worried about people dropping troops next to tanks? I can do that right now with my Dropship, I'll just land it and run off. Expensive, but thats the ******** trolling you expect all off us to do.

We need this feature, otherwise DS Pilots are just gonna be useless assets in the battlefield (When it comes to Pub games anyways, and I'd actually like to be of use in a Pub game.)

Vermaak, you're concentrating on the negatives, the possibilities that morons will decide to troll with this feature. The problem is, what do you want Dropship Pilots to be? Gone forever, never to actually be utilized properly?

We can remove the ability when entering a redzone, that one sorted. You're worried about people dropping troops next to tanks? I can do that right now with my Dropship, I'll just land it and run off. Expensive, but thats the ******** trolling you expect all off us to do.

We need this feature, otherwise DS Pilots are just gonna be useless assets in the battlefield (When it comes to Pub games anyways, and I'd actually like to be of use in a Pub game.)

That wouldn't be a game changer to let dropship pilots kick the people inside out because in the event they're not ready to leave they'll just run away from where you dropped them and waste even more time than they would have walking to wherever they're trying to get. All this would do is promote ttolling WITHOUT consequence which is a terrible idea.

+1 for the green light but the rest is a sh*tty idea

Not ready? I sat just next to Bravo on Manus Peaks with a Dropship full of people, the guys on the turrets were shooting into the distance trying to hit things and the other 4 were sitting there doing **** all. It's ridiculous you're against this. We can easily stop abuse for the Red zone and only a few players are going to grief by dropping them off right next to an enemy. The majority of pilots want to be useful in a battle rather than flying around getting shot down while they try to make players in the dropship jump out.

One particular instance isn't a format for all, it's more ridiculous that you think it's your right to force them out of a vehicle meant for teamwork when things don't go your way. It's even more bs that you think this will accomplish anything more than trolling without punishment

Simple request, as a Dropship Pilot I want to pick people up and get them onto an objective quickly. The problem is not everyone has a mic or is paying attention to me yelling "GO!", so perhaps we could have a kick all function for Vehicles? My priority is dropships but I believe every vehicle could probably use it.

Using it will eject everyone from the vehicle apart from the Pilot/Driver. This means even if you're driving around with a group of randoms, they can be "organized" when it comes to getting out of a vehicle :)

I like the "green light" idea.

I don't like the "throw people out without a choice" idea.

You know how a squad leader gets a "Squad Leader Commission" WP bonus for any bonus points earned by teammates following their instructions? Why not give something similar to Dropships.

Have a "Green Light" function that Dropship Pilots can use to instruct teammates to jump. Give this a minimum 5 second duration before it can be turned off, and a max of 10 seconds before it cuts off on its own, and have a 60 second cooldown on activation so it can't be spammed constantly. Anyone who jumps during the green light period gets a 10 or 15 point bonus, and hands the pilot a "commission" bonus as well. After jumping, there could be a short period where the dropped players earn bonus WP and award commission to the pilot for those as well.

I suggested something similar a while back. Some kind of WP commission to the dropship pilot for every action did by a dropped soldier in the 1-2 minutes after they left the DS.

Would obviously need some more accurate design than this to avoid exploit but could be a way to give love to the pilots.

Regarding green light, it's a good idea. The auto-drop people, not so much imo.

+1, and I'm sure I +1ed you previously on the topic as well.

Also, I've previously suggested a possible method of reducing exploitability, I've suggested a few ways to make that happen before too. Mostly revolving around giving everyone who drops a temporary WP boost, and not thinking about pilots themselves.

1. Gunners don't get rewarded for abandoning their posts. Not sure about this if it's on a cooldown/time-limited effect as this thread's suggesting - it was part of a suggestion for a general bonus to Dropship pilots and passengers for jumping out without bothering to coordinate with teammates when doing it.

2. Bonus only awarded to players who have been in the Dropship for a certain minimum time, or those who spawned in the vehicle's M-CRU. if you just hopped into the Dropship, no extra reward will be earned. This would make any exploitation potential minimal enough that K/D farming or suicide/nano-injector WP farming would be a more practical method.

3. If gunners aren't rewarded with this system, they could get the "jump" bonus without the post-jump WP increase. Also, you wouldn't count as a gunner until you've taken at least one shot, but once you've fired, you'd have to leave the gunner's seat and remain in a passenger position for the require timeframe before being eligible for the bonus WP.

Something like that could work. Yet i'm not sure a WP boost is needed for the soldiers inside the DS. Is there really a need to incentize people in getting in a dropship ? I'd rather focus on pilot love first.

Working on DS\infantry relationship mecanics is needed that's for sure.

If you search "Pilot Comission", I also made a thread on it outlining a way for Pilots to gain WP.
The Auto Drop is needed really. A warning, "You are about to be deployed from the Dropship" needs to flash across the screen and then bam. I'm pretty tired of trying to use Dropships in a public match only to have all 6 players inside it trying to farm WP

well first off you need to getting points for people spawning on your dropship in the first place again...as for me I am not getting WP for them spawning in my DS so until they fix that I dont see this working at all.

Dropship pilots need this feature to be applied soon! it would be extremely helpful as a tactic for a DP and would make Dropships have more of an effect on the battlefield.

Same one as before, a blaring signal to leave only

Accomplishes nothing.

Random Blue Dot sees the signal..
"lol nope I'm safe in this Dropship, watch me get all these points!"

Dropship dies due to the blue dot not getting out and killing the Forge Gunner below us, woot.

Look at the discussion on page 3.

Incentivise jumping when the green light is triggered.

You get a notification that you should jump now. If you jump during the 5 - 10 second window, you get bonus points on all your actions, and the pilot gets a commission bonus. If you DON'T jump, there's a 1 - 2 minute cooldown on the "green light" activation, during which no passengers are awarded assist points.

So either you jump and get the potential for bonus points if you don't suck, or you stay and get nothing.

And the a**hole pilots who drop into a scenario they won't survive? (Near am enemy tank/tank group or sinto another dropship's firing line, etc.)

Pick up a full load of mercs using mobile clone reserve unit -- fly deep into the red -- kick them all out -- use an afterburner to get back before counter ends. Rinse. Repeat.

I could get on board with this for one of my alts.

Welcome to New Eden. It is not safe here. Friendly fire, betrayal, someone stealing all your corp's ISK is a feature, not a problem.

Seriously. Its not a problem. this is why I laugh my ass off when people want it so your tank cant get tankjacked. It ain't happening. Its why I believe sleepy zan driving over blueberries will explicitly NOT be nerfed. Your allies in new eden can be out to get you. and if I pay your dropship pilot to toss you out deep in a red zone and he does? then Hes getting rewarded with 20 proto CRU dropships while I LOL. And you lost because I paid your guy to screw you over.

Start thinking like intel ops folks. blindly trusting in this game will get you and your corp torched.

Thanks for the heads up. I already suspected it considering the Eve forums I have visited.

We need to track friendly kills then along with kills. Make that available via Info. Breaks a dozen and we can start offering bounties, you know. For retribution. Great part would be there is no way to reset the friendly kill count. New alts all the time.

Which is why I track user id.

Welcome to New Eden. It is not safe here. Friendly fire, betrayal, someone stealing all your corp's ISK is a feature, not a problem.

Seriously. Its not a problem. this is why I laugh my ass off when people want it so your tank cant get tankjacked. It ain't happening. Its why I believe sleepy zan driving over blueberries will explicitly NOT be nerfed. Your allies in new eden can be out to get you. and if I pay your dropship pilot to toss you out deep in a red zone and he does? then Hes getting rewarded with 20 proto CRU dropships while I LOL. And you lost because I paid your guy to screw you over.

Start thinking like intel ops folks. blindly trusting in this game will get you and your corp torched.

As long as you lose your dropship trying to grief, i don't care but otherwise it'll just lead to a bunch of Bs teamkilling. And all of the examples you pull up have nothing to do with what i said

It's all about the players man, there will be griefers that's a fact but people will use it to benefit their team.
For example, I really want this feature bad, I'd like to equip a CRU and go deliver players to objectives, but they won't get out. I think the novelty of dropping people in the redzone would wear out eventually anyways and like I said we just disallow kicks at speed and in the redzone, tada (Make Viable Airspace a yellow zone that players cannot be dropped into, so they'll only be allowed to be dropped in safe ground zones)

It's all about the players man, there will be griefers that's a fact but people will use it to benefit their team.
For example, I really want this feature bad, I'd like to equip a CRU and go deliver players to objectives, but they won't get out. I think the novelty of dropping people in the redzone would wear out eventually anyways and like I said we just disallow kicks at speed and in the redzone, tada (Make Viable Airspace a yellow zone that players cannot be dropped into, so they'll only be allowed to be dropped in safe ground zones)

And in what world is transport ment for the unorganized blues? Even with a mandatory drop they would just run in every direction

You just need to herd them, watched Dark Cloud do it once with an LAV
If I have a CRU equipped and you fly close to the Objective you need taken and launch them out of the Dropship, they fall to the ground and begin running towards the Objective.. They're not too useless in a Herd.

As long as you lose your dropship trying to grief, i don't care but otherwise it'll just lead to a bunch of Bs teamkilling. And all of the examples you pull up have nothing to do with what i said

why? CCP does not punish betrayal mechanically in new eden, punishment for bluedot ganking is in the hands, and the responsibility, of you, the bluedot getting betrayed. If he doesn't lose his dropship screwing you? then I would suggest pulling out a forge gun and correcting the problem.

I guarantee you that is CCPs intent.

Actually they do punish for ganking in noob areas, and transporting people in dropships is like using a hauler, freighter, etc on a courier contract which you can just take from but you lose money that way, which is how it should be

Then over the waste vats, or directly in front of two enemy HAVs. One or two might survive, but I'm sure the rest will be just as dead.

Of course it is, i don't know why CCP has not done anything to dropships yet AT ALL!!! :(

I'd like the idea of an eject button for all sorts of reasons and while a dropship could land, it doesn't guarantee people will step out. Besides, we have inertia dampeners, why not use them?

On that note, If we are able to eject people from dropships, I think the dampeners should activate automatically.

I hate the Blueberries that just ride in my tank when I need someone to jump out and chase the friggin AV units down...

Let me kick these bums from my HAV!

Landing before ejecting people seems fair.

We've been waiting forever for this, I have been swayed to a kick out passengers function only if it follows certain parameters:

One: can't deploy in redzone

Two: sp loss for thet deployed troop's death if it occurs within 10 seconds of deployment

Three: negation of forward inertia so it can't be used to sling shot friendlies

Four: complete overhaul of collision damage for obvious reasons

full on kick button none of this green light ****, and yes locks for vehicles.

And to think I was hatin' on you because of this thread. +1 Will include in OP

Simple request, as a Dropship Pilot I want to pick people up and get them onto an objective quickly. The problem is not everyone has a mic or is paying attention to me yelling "GO!", so perhaps we could have a kick all function for Vehicles? My priority is dropships but I believe every vehicle could probably use it.

Using it will eject everyone from the vehicle apart from the Pilot/Driver. This means even if you're driving around with a group of randoms, they can be "organized" when it comes to getting out of a vehicle :)

yeah this is a good idea, but we also need options to allow or prevent friendlies from taking our vehicles. im tired of getting tank jacked by my own team when i get out to repair fire damage and stuff...fuckin jerks

i hada guy join my squad walk off with my tank and tell me "i know it yours im using it right now " WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE BLUEBERRIES" i lose more tank tot his than to destruction im pretty sure thats the case with most vehicles runners this solution need to be implemented you should have a kick menu to pull up that lists you vehicle spots and the people in them maybe add a lock button on it idc being able to kick anyone from my tank fixes my problems and we should'NT have to be in vehicle to kick them either some of my lavs are to fast to catch up to should a blueberry drive off with it (NORMALLY THEY WRECK AND BLOW UP ON THEY'RE FIRST TURN LOL)

The "Jump" should eject marked passengers.

Passengers could select the "Deploy me" option on entering, with the default being yes.

This isn't just a blueberry thing either. Com delays make hot dropping a squad an iffy proposition, especially at speed.

Putting deployment in the hands of the pilot makes for far more accurate placement.

I suggest marking individuals because I may want to keep a single gunner and have the rest jump.

and sorry to res this old req but i really want to know if they plan on fixing this so i know what i am going to do may 6th

did i miss something lol ....:3 ...hmm ill go look for what your speaking of i may have passed over it i check every day ..but then my eyes r terrible

As a full proto dropship pilot, I think that having an eject button is great. It gets tiring having blueberries without comms spawn on you and never hop out. It would allow you to force them into the fight rather than let the ground game falter because you are holding six people from combat.

.....ya i must be missin something

Simple request, as a Dropship Pilot I want to pick people up and get them onto an objective quickly. The problem is not everyone has a mic or is paying attention to me yelling "GO!", so perhaps we could have a kick all function for Vehicles? My priority is dropships but I believe every vehicle could probably use it.

Using it will eject everyone from the vehicle apart from the Pilot/Driver. This means even if you're driving around with a group of randoms, they can be "organized" when it comes to getting out of a vehicle :)

The applications outweighs the possible abuse. Someone can always leave the dropship before being ejected to a hostile area if they're worried the pilot is a kittenhole. If the pilot does turn out to be a kittenhole, they will know to avoid spawning on his dropship.

An alternative could be to let people spawn on a full dropship, but spawn outside the full dropship in a freefall.

Here's my vote:

Pilot hits the eject button, all passengers get a 5 second countdown. After the count, passengers get shot out with inertia dampeners on. The clock gives the troopers aboard a chance to ready themselves for deployment into an LZ. Very air cav or MI.

LOVE THIS! ... +2 ... ok, ADD IT YESTERDAY

CCP blue tag plz.

omfg have we seriously ressed this ancient long lost topic..it not happening ccp is not doing it they are slow who ******* cares anymore its been over a year since this was first brought up it is hotfixable ...instead we gotta bunch of pretty aur gear

Pilot hits a button, bye bye passengers, no warning other than a buzz over the comms to indicate ejection. This isn't AFK as an option folks we are in the middle of a fire fight up in the air or down on the ground. Mid air drops are perfectly fine. Wouldn't it be nice if the pilot could save all his passengers from the swarms coming towards him?