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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7927	Posted - 2015.04.09 14:44:00 - [61] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I really want full racial parity WITH GENUINE ART ASSETS. I'm sorry but the placeholder thing is SUCH AN UGLY HACK. It's like producing a chess game, saying we don't have the resources to model Rooks and Knights, so we're just going to re-use pawns and paint them a different color (we'll replace them soon--I swear). I understand that resources are constrained, but if I were in CCP Rouge's position, I would beg/borrow/steal whatever it took to fill in the full racial lineup with real art assets. We have the resources for project Nemesis apparently. Maybe CCP Rouge could beg CCP Hilmar to snag the EVE artists to work on this stuff as an off-hours side-project for DUST, or crowdsource it, or to take up bank-robbing so he had the funds in the budget to make it happen. The problem with placeholders is that it's way too easy to just let it be "good enough" and we could go years before seeing them replaced with actual art, as they stop being a high priority. cool. front the yearly salary of a 3D modeler to work on DUST assets. Until that goes into the budget, not happening. AV
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2919	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:02:00 - [62] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I really want full racial parity WITH GENUINE ART ASSETS. I'm sorry but the placeholder thing is SUCH AN UGLY HACK. It's like producing a chess game, saying we don't have the resources to model Rooks and Knights, so we're just going to re-use pawns and paint them a different color (we'll replace them soon--I swear). I understand that resources are constrained, but if I were in CCP Rouge's position, I would beg/borrow/steal whatever it took to fill in the full racial lineup with real art assets. We have the resources for project Nemesis apparently. Maybe CCP Rouge could beg CCP Hilmar to snag the EVE artists to work on this stuff as an off-hours side-project for DUST, or crowdsource it, or to take up bank-robbing so he had the funds in the budget to make it happen. The problem with placeholders is that it's way too easy to just let it be "good enough" and we could go years before seeing them replaced with actual art, as they stop being a high priority. cool. front the yearly salary of a 3D modeler to work on DUST assets. Until that goes into the budget, not happening. Well I'm loyalty rank 12, so I've been doing more than my fair share in the $ department. I did mentioned alternatives to simply hiring more people. Best PvE idea ever!
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1994	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:03:00 - [63] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Good one! You sure showed us! Yeah! You sure showed me that you don't have a clue about balancing vehicles, implementing vehicles or anything to do with vehicles. But, swallows, but all I wanted was to impress you,... Amarr tank: Golden/ light brown paired with white/gray, Minmatar: Muddy dark brown cammo like the State Gunnlogi Caldari- Dark blue Gallante- What it is now. All prototype tanks should have red lights. "Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20162	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:05:00 - [64] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I really want full racial parity WITH GENUINE ART ASSETS. I'm sorry but the placeholder thing is SUCH AN UGLY HACK. It's like producing a chess game, saying we don't have the resources to model Rooks and Knights, so we're just going to re-use pawns and paint them a different color (we'll replace them soon--I swear). I understand that resources are constrained, but if I were in CCP Rouge's position, I would beg/borrow/steal whatever it took to fill in the full racial lineup with real art assets. We have the resources for project Nemesis apparently. Maybe CCP Rouge could beg CCP Hilmar to snag the EVE artists to work on this stuff as an off-hours side-project for DUST, or crowdsource it, or to take up bank-robbing so he had the funds in the budget to make it happen. The problem with placeholders is that it's way too easy to just let it be "good enough" and we could go years before seeing them replaced with actual art, as they stop being a high priority. Uh, thanks for the development insight? I offered this step to balance the hulls and offer some variety, but I would fix a 100 other things before making racial hulls a priority, plus we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15864	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:09:00 - [65] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I really want full racial parity WITH GENUINE ART ASSETS. I'm sorry but the placeholder thing is SUCH AN UGLY HACK. It's like producing a chess game, saying we don't have the resources to model Rooks and Knights, so we're just going to re-use pawns and paint them a different color (we'll replace them soon--I swear). I understand that resources are constrained, but if I were in CCP Rouge's position, I would beg/borrow/steal whatever it took to fill in the full racial lineup with real art assets. We have the resources for project Nemesis apparently. Maybe CCP Rouge could beg CCP Hilmar to snag the EVE artists to work on this stuff as an off-hours side-project for DUST, or crowdsource it, or to take up bank-robbing so he had the funds in the budget to make it happen. The problem with placeholders is that it's way too easy to just let it be "good enough" and we could go years before seeing them replaced with actual art, as they stop being a high priority. Uh, thanks for the development insight? I offered this step to balance the hulls and offer some variety, but I would fix a 100 other things before making racial hulls a priority, plus we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. Should we download more RAM at http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ ? Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 5741	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:19:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Uh, thanks for the development insight? I offered this step to balance the hulls and offer some variety, but I would fix a 100 other things before making racial hulls a priority, plus we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. Are you working on a SKINs system for vehicles as well to assist with memory issues. @JadekMenaheim
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9598	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:27:00 - [67] - Quote Provided we somehow find a way to free up some ram, would actual new models be a real possibility? Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for reskins! Also dropships and lavs to follow? Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2919	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:29:00 - [68] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I really want full racial parity WITH GENUINE ART ASSETS. I'm sorry but the placeholder thing is SUCH AN UGLY HACK. It's like producing a chess game, saying we don't have the resources to model Rooks and Knights, so we're just going to re-use pawns and paint them a different color (we'll replace them soon--I swear). I understand that resources are constrained, but if I were in CCP Rouge's position, I would beg/borrow/steal whatever it took to fill in the full racial lineup with real art assets. We have the resources for project Nemesis apparently. Maybe CCP Rouge could beg CCP Hilmar to snag the EVE artists to work on this stuff as an off-hours side-project for DUST, or crowdsource it, or to take up bank-robbing so he had the funds in the budget to make it happen. The problem with placeholders is that it's way too easy to just let it be "good enough" and we could go years before seeing them replaced with actual art, as they stop being a high priority. Uh, thanks for the development insight? I offered this step to balance the hulls and offer some variety, but I would fix a 100 other things before making racial hulls a priority, plus we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I think it would be a big mistake to release DUST on a new platform without full racial parity. It would hurt reviews because it does make the game feel incomplete. It's going to take time to make those assets, imo you guys should be working on this now so it can be ready for a re-launch someday. I realize that memory is an issue. and I appreciate you being honest about it. My post wasn't intended to be disrespectful, just to convey how important this is to some of us. One way to free up memory is to unlock all tiers of gear at level 1 of a skill. Implement a way to easily convert AUR to ISK and we can delete all AUR gear (except BPOs) from the database. That should open up a little more memory, likely increase revenue, make fitting better, and clean up the market a lot. Is crowdsourcing completely out of the question? You have shown how powerful this technique can be. Release the preliminary art assets you guys do have and let the community see if they can't make cool things happen? You can give them constraints like x number of polygons and such. Even if they need editing, it should give your team a headstart. Best PvE idea ever!
Vyuru Algintal Core Gallente Federation 104	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:37:00 - [69] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Quote: snipped out stuff And since we're being told CCP's current ability is limited when it comes to new art assets and such, I'd rather have place holders than never seeing new weapons/vehicles/equipment/etc. In a perfect world, they'd have the resources and manpower to get the new models in, but they don't, and I support creative workarounds 100%. And I also agree with Rattati that there are other priorities than art assets. I don't know if it's on the docket for fixing, but imagine if we could get the redline fixed, so it does become a safe place to stage breakouts and other assaults from, rather than a place to camp and snipe with relative impunity? Imagine that! That would fix complaints about entire CLASSES of weaponry! (mostly railgun tanks and snipers, and the occasional FGer) EDIT: My response was to an earlier post, I can agree with what you posted above me here.
Slave of MORTE 360	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:44:00 - [70] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Since I need to prep this tomorrow (not deploy), what colors do you want? should there be a difference between SHAV and HAV, should there be a progression coloration as well. Pick three colors for all factions, HAVS and SHAVS plus progression. Using the emission lights to indicate vehicle tier could be smart, or incrementally more black. Go. Is this for the repainted Caldari and Gallente tanks you mentioned before? If you're saying we're actually getting Amarr and Minmatar models, I may need to buy a pacemaker. Oh god I can't breath are amarrian tanks finally coming..gold gold witubMOAAARR GOLD I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina

Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2919	Posted - 2015.04.09 15:54:00 - [71] - Quote Vyuru wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Quote: snipped out stuff And since we're being told CCP's current ability is limited when it comes to new art assets and such, I'd rather have place holders than never seeing new weapons/vehicles/equipment/etc. In a perfect world, they'd have the resources and manpower to get the new models in, but they don't, and I support creative workarounds 100%. And I also agree with Rattati that there are other priorities than art assets. I don't know if it's on the docket for fixing, but imagine if we could get the redline fixed, so it does become a safe place to stage breakouts and other assaults from, rather than a place to camp and snipe with relative impunity? Imagine that! That would fix complaints about entire CLASSES of weaponry! (mostly railgun tanks and snipers, and the occasional FGer) EDIT: My response was to an earlier post, I can agree with what you posted above me here. Regarding the redline, I've got a solution to this. Make the redline timer work like the cloak timer. Increase the time in the enemy redline to something like a minute, but have it regen outside of the redline. This means you can dive the redline for an extended period of time, but will require significant time outside of the redline to let it recharge. If the recharge is 2x or 3x the time, then you're guaranteeing that people have to spend large amount of time outside of the redline. Further you can deactivate the ability to repair shields/armor when in the enemy redline. With this system you can dive the redline to kill snipers, railgun tanks, etc. but can't sustain a camp of the redline. Best PvE idea ever!
G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2015.04.09 16:06:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I hear Sony, like, doubled the RAM in the PS4!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9599	Posted - 2015.04.09 16:38:00 - [73] - Quote G Clone wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I hear Sony, like, doubled the RAM in the PS4! Not even, bro. Try x16 the ram. PS3 has 512MB and PS4 has 8GB Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Foundation Seldon Demonite's Legion 930	Posted - 2015.04.09 16:40:00 - [74] - Quote G Clone wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I hear Sony, like, doubled the RAM in the PS4! Multiplied it by 16 actually. And it's faster.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 229	Posted - 2015.04.09 16:52:00 - [75] - Quote G Clone wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I hear Sony, like, doubled the RAM in the PS4! Still better to go on the PC though, a bit more power for like $300 Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
VAHZZ 1261	Posted - 2015.04.09 16:55:00 - [76] - Quote That is the last time I sleep on the job.... *BRUH* Closed Beta Vet
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9599	Posted - 2015.04.09 17:01:00 - [77] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: G Clone wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I hear Sony, like, doubled the RAM in the PS4! Still better to go on the PC though, a bit more power for like $300 Good luck with that Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Atlas Donovan The Immortal Order 61	Posted - 2015.04.09 17:06:00 - [78] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Since I need to prep this tomorrow (not deploy), what colors do you want? should there be a difference between SHAV and HAV, should there be a progression coloration as well. Pick three colors for all factions, HAVS and SHAVS plus progression. Using the emission lights to indicate vehicle tier could be smart, or incrementally more black. Go. You're the coolest mutha, ever....rat man!
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 860	Posted - 2015.04.09 17:19:00 - [79] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Since I need to prep this tomorrow (not deploy), what colors do you want? should there be a difference between SHAV and HAV, should there be a progression coloration as well. Pick three colors for all factions, HAVS and SHAVS plus progression. Using the emission lights to indicate vehicle tier could be smart, or incrementally more black. Go. Is this for the repainted Caldari and Gallente tanks you mentioned before? If you're saying we're actually getting Amarr and Minmatar models, I may need to buy a pacemaker. Oh god I can't breath are amarrian tanks finally coming..gold gold witubMOAAARR GOLD CCP Rattati wrote: but I would fix a 100 other things before making racial hulls a priority, plus we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. So yeah, no new models. But a Golden/black and A Rust/Ductape sound good to me. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
G Clone Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 42	Posted - 2015.04.09 17:21:00 - [80] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: G Clone wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I hear Sony, like, doubled the RAM in the PS4! Not even, bro. Try x16 the ram. PS3 has 512MB and PS4 has 8GB I'll make the snarky thicker next time :) Georgia Xavier wrote: Still better to go on the PC though, a bit more power for like $300 And DirectX/Windows+variable hardware is more wasteful than GNM, so PS4 is still the better option.

Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 230	Posted - 2015.04.09 17:57:00 - [81] - Quote G Clone wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: G Clone wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I hear Sony, like, doubled the RAM in the PS4! Not even, bro. Try x16 the ram. PS3 has 512MB and PS4 has 8GB I'll make the snarky thicker next time :) Georgia Xavier wrote: Still better to go on the PC though, a bit more power for like $300 And DirectX/Windows+variable hardware is more wasteful than GNM, so PS4 is still the better option. How is it more wasteful? Edit: Did some more research, Ps4 has 2 to 3 gb of RAM reserved for it's many functions so users only get to utilise less than 5 gb of RAM. These users including devs such as CCP Source Scr nerf approaches.We shall see who truly knows how to wield God's wrath and heathens who wish to mimic the Amarr......
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3347	Posted - 2015.04.09 18:26:00 - [82] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Since I need to prep this tomorrow (not deploy), what colors do you want? should there be a difference between SHAV and HAV, should there be a progression coloration as well. Pick three colors for all factions, HAVS and SHAVS plus progression. Using the emission lights to indicate vehicle tier could be smart, or incrementally more black. Go. Is this for the repainted Caldari and Gallente tanks you mentioned before? If you're saying we're actually getting Amarr and Minmatar models, I may need to buy a pacemaker. come on, let me enjoy delivering the repainted ones and be relatively proud and happy about it Oh yeaaaa? Speedy matari Vagabond style tank here we come!!! I think it is generally accepted in DUST that more black = more protoness..... but as for colours should it not kinda follow EVE? Amarr - Golden / Majestic Caldari - Blue / Metallic Gallente - Green, organic-ish Minmatar - Reddish rust, brilliant engineering from the most basic and common of scrap. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18096	Posted - 2015.04.09 18:32:00 - [83] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Since I need to prep this tomorrow (not deploy), what colors do you want? should there be a difference between SHAV and HAV, should there be a progression coloration as well. Pick three colors for all factions, HAVS and SHAVS plus progression. Using the emission lights to indicate vehicle tier could be smart, or incrementally more black. Go. Amarr Navy Colours for the Factional Tank Primary Plating = White Secondary/Highlight Plating- Dark Grey or Black Lighting= Teal Normal Tank has to be their standard Primary Plating= Tan Secondard Plating= Gold Highlights= White or Rich Yellow GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6194	Posted - 2015.04.09 18:39:00 - [84] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I really want full racial parity WITH GENUINE ART ASSETS. I'm sorry but the placeholder thing is SUCH AN UGLY HACK. It's like producing a chess game, saying we don't have the resources to model Rooks and Knights, so we're just going to re-use pawns and paint them a different color (we'll replace them soon--I swear). I understand that resources are constrained, but if I were in CCP Rouge's position, I would beg/borrow/steal whatever it took to fill in the full racial lineup with real art assets. We have the resources for project Nemesis apparently. Maybe CCP Rouge could beg CCP Hilmar to snag the EVE artists to work on this stuff as an off-hours side-project for DUST, or crowdsource it, or to take up bank-robbing so he had the funds in the budget to make it happen. The problem with placeholders is that it's way too easy to just let it be "good enough" and we could go years before seeing them replaced with actual art, as they stop being a high priority. Uh, thanks for the development insight? I offered this step to balance the hulls and offer some variety, but I would fix a 100 other things before making racial hulls a priority, plus we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I guess it is really a question of whether they want the racial variants to be balanced in DUST now, or whether they want to wait a year or two for DUST to move to a new platform, and then have to deal with the balance issues. Personally, I want to do as much balancing as we can now. When DUST finally moves to a new platform it will look great and likely have many new assets as part of the effort. Many people will try DUST on the new platform. Do we really want balance issues to drive those new players away? The Fox says: Balance with placeholders now, so we don't have to deal with big balance problems on the new platform later! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19147	Posted - 2015.04.09 18:55:00 - [85] - Quote I think we need to go back and change out all the red lights with the racial ones on prototypes. Also getting too hung up on trying to make adv and prototype colors for everything. Rather have more skins available. Gold (metal) / Sandstone (main) / White (secondary) Theme / Yellow Lights = Amarr Repaint of a Gallente Dark Iron (metal) / Rustic (main) / Dark Rustic (secondary) / Orange Lights = Minmatar Repaint of Caldari CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6194	Posted - 2015.04.09 19:11:00 - [86] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I really want full racial parity WITH GENUINE ART ASSETS. I'm sorry but the placeholder thing is SUCH AN UGLY HACK. It's like producing a chess game, saying we don't have the resources to model Rooks and Knights, so we're just going to re-use pawns and paint them a different color (we'll replace them soon--I swear). I understand that resources are constrained, but if I were in CCP Rouge's position, I would beg/borrow/steal whatever it took to fill in the full racial lineup with real art assets. We have the resources for project Nemesis apparently. Maybe CCP Rouge could beg CCP Hilmar to snag the EVE artists to work on this stuff as an off-hours side-project for DUST, or crowdsource it, or to take up bank-robbing so he had the funds in the budget to make it happen. The problem with placeholders is that it's way too easy to just let it be "good enough" and we could go years before seeing them replaced with actual art, as they stop being a high priority. Uh, thanks for the development insight? I offered this step to balance the hulls and offer some variety, but I would fix a 100 other things before making racial hulls a priority, plus we are very memory constrained on additional 3d assets. Honest truth. I think it would be a big mistake to release DUST on a new platform without full racial parity. It would hurt reviews because it does make the game feel incomplete. It's going to take time to make those assets, imo you guys should be working on this now so it can be ready for a re-launch someday. Placeholders in DUST 514 on the PS3 does not equate to placeholders on a new platform, for precisely the reason you mention. It will be worth the investment to add art assets for any placeholder items when DUST is ported to a new platform. Moving to a new platform will also make a lot more RAM available. Now, creating art assets for items what are not already in the game... not so much of a priority. So if you want it on the next platform, you better support the placeholder in the current game! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Ronin Merc Defenders of the Helghast Dream 23	Posted - 2015.04.09 19:25:00 - [87] - Quote Can I sign?
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2919	Posted - 2015.04.09 19:27:00 - [88] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I think it would be a big mistake to release DUST on a new platform without full racial parity. It would hurt reviews because it does make the game feel incomplete. It's going to take time to make those assets, imo you guys should be working on this now so it can be ready for a re-launch someday. Placeholders in DUST 514 on the PS3 does not equate to placeholders on a new platform, for precisely the reason you mention. It will be worth the investment to add art assets for any placeholder items when DUST is ported to a new platform. Moving to a new platform will also make a lot more RAM available. Now, creating art assets for items what are not already in the game... not so much of a priority. So if you want it on the next platform, you better support the placeholder in the current game! My point is that It could take a year or longer to work out the art for this stuff (turrets, vehicles, heavy weapons, MCC's). They should be working on this, because it needs to be ready for launch. I'm all for getting things balanced now though. I just worry that the placeholders will evolve into "good enough" for the long term, and that would be incredibly disappointing. Placeholders are a very ugly hack. It may be all we can do at this point, but they should be replaced with real art as soon as it's technically and financially possible--it really does need to be a priority. Best PvE idea ever!
DUST Fiend 16294	Posted - 2015.04.09 19:29:00 - [89] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I think it would be a big mistake to release DUST on a new platform without full racial parity. It would hurt reviews because it does make the game feel incomplete. It's going to take time to make those assets, imo you guys should be working on this now so it can be ready for a re-launch someday. Placeholders in DUST 514 on the PS3 does not equate to placeholders on a new platform, for precisely the reason you mention. It will be worth the investment to add art assets for any placeholder items when DUST is ported to a new platform. Moving to a new platform will also make a lot more RAM available. Now, creating art assets for items what are not already in the game... not so much of a priority. So if you want it on the next platform, you better support the placeholder in the current game! My point is that It could take a year or longer to work out the art for this stuff (turrets, vehicles, heavy weapons, MCC's). They should be working on this, because it needs to be ready for launch. I'm all for getting things balanced now though. I just worry that the placeholders will evolve into "good enough" for the long term, and that would be incredibly disappointing. Placeholders are a very ugly hack. It may be all we can do at this point, but they should be replaced with real art as soon as it's technically and financially possible--it really does need to be a priority. I just like how everyone talks like this will be ported any time soon. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2919	Posted - 2015.04.09 19:34:00 - [90] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Vell0cet wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Vell0cet wrote: I think it would be a big mistake to release DUST on a new platform without full racial parity. It would hurt reviews because it does make the game feel incomplete. It's going to take time to make those assets, imo you guys should be working on this now so it can be ready for a re-launch someday. Placeholders in DUST 514 on the PS3 does not equate to placeholders on a new platform, for precisely the reason you mention. It will be worth the investment to add art assets for any placeholder items when DUST is ported to a new platform. Moving to a new platform will also make a lot more RAM available. Now, creating art assets for items what are not already in the game... not so much of a priority. So if you want it on the next platform, you better support the placeholder in the current game! My point is that It could take a year or longer to work out the art for this stuff (turrets, vehicles, heavy weapons, MCC's). They should be working on this, because it needs to be ready for launch. I'm all for getting things balanced now though. I just worry that the placeholders will evolve into "good enough" for the long term, and that would be incredibly disappointing. Placeholders are a very ugly hack. It may be all we can do at this point, but they should be replaced with real art as soon as it's technically and financially possible--it really does need to be a priority. I just like how everyone talks like this will be ported any time soon. Time is not our friend here. I think DUST has proven that it can be viable, and I would hope CCP Hilmar would understand that it's worth investing more money to give it the resources it needs to transition the game to an x86 platform. DUST really could be huge if we can get it through this transition, and it could add a lot of depth to EVE as well. Best PvE idea ever!



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