I just love how all of the scrambler rifle brigade is here defending their weapon yet again after countless times now giving their ideas to rattati how to fix it on a way that does not hinder their ridiculous damage output against shields and armor. That weapon is broken end extremely unfair against shields at long ranges, medium, and close range it always has been. End of story. Just nerf that thing like yall did to the ar's. Nobody seemed to care about that weapon when it got nerfed because everyone migrated to even more op weapons. I:E CR, RR, AcR.

But wait the CR variants and RR variants already got nerfed except the viziam. That weapon has been eluding a nerf since its inception because of the scrambler rifle brigade always telling the same old tired story to the devs "it overheats" "it takes skill to charge shot" "does bad against armor" No it freaking doesn't. Ive used this weapon maxed out to pro 5 with three damage mods on my ak.0 and that thing destroys any other rifle at any given range. It doesnt care if i shoot shields nor armor either. The fact that this thing can out DPS an AR wielding gallente a "close range intended fit" in a CQC fight is ridiculous. Not even that it also out DPS's any other armor suit wielding at long range. Better yet why hasnt anyone made a video using the Viziam SCR destroying every single shield and armor suit at any range. Do i have to make one or what?

I dont mean to sound like i am being biased but i am tired of this overpowered weapon always being defended by certain players that use it but never telling the full story of how they can destroy shield suits in an instant. A shield suit is basically a free kill because they run little armor after their shields are destroyed. And guess what? the viziam doesnt care if it has 200 armor, 300 armor, 400 armor, 500 armor, 600 armor, 700 armor. It will eat that armor like if they were shields.

I just love how all of the scrambler rifle brigade is here defending their weapon yet again after countless times now giving their ideas to rattati how to fix it on a way that does not hinder their ridiculous damage output against shields and armor. That weapon is broken end extremely unfair against shields at long ranges, medium, and close range it always has been. End of story. Just nerf that thing like yall did to the ar's. Nobody seemed to care about that weapon when it got nerfed because everyone migrated to even more op weapons. I:E CR, RR, AcR.

But wait the CR variants and RR variants already got nerfed except the viziam. That weapon has been eluding a nerf since its inception because of the scrambler rifle brigade always telling the same old tired story to the devs "it overheats" "it takes skill to charge shot" "does bad against armor" No it freaking doesn't. Ive used this weapon maxed out to pro 5 with three damage mods on my ak.0 and that thing destroys any other rifle at any given range. It doesnt care if i shoot shields nor armor either. The fact that this thing can out DPS an AR wielding gallente a "close range intended fit" in a CQC fight is ridiculous. Not even that it also out DPS's any other armor suit wielding at long range. Better yet why hasnt anyone made a video using the Viziam SCR destroying every single shield and armor suit at any range. Do i have to make one or what?

I dont mean to sound like i am being biased but i am tired of this overpowered weapon always being defended by certain players that use it but never telling the full story of how they can destroy shield suits in an instant. A shield suit is basically a free kill because they run little armor after their shields are destroyed. And guess what? the viziam doesnt care if it has 200 armor, 300 armor, 400 armor, 500 armor, 600 armor, 700 armor. It will eat that armor like if they were shields.

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ScR has more DPS than HMG

I demand evidence and comparisons to all the other rifles.
I want to see K/S, usage, market data, ect. Also I want to see what suit the ScR is most equipped to. Not that I need the evidence to know that it is the Amassault by a landslide, but confirmation would be nice.
Also, I'd like to see how its K/S fares when it is used on an Amassault vs all other suits.

I refuse to believe that the K/S and usage rates have both gone up after multiple direct nerfs, alongside buffs to the direct competition.

Bullshit.

I just love how all of the scrambler rifle brigade is here defending their weapon yet again after countless times now giving their ideas to rattati how to fix it on a way that does not hinder their ridiculous damage output against shields and armor. That weapon is broken end extremely unfair against shields at long ranges, medium, and close range it always has been. End of story. Just nerf that thing like yall did to the ar's. Nobody seemed to care about that weapon when it got nerfed because everyone migrated to even more op weapons. I:E CR, RR, AcR.

But wait the CR variants and RR variants already got nerfed except the viziam. That weapon has been eluding a nerf since its inception because of the scrambler rifle brigade always telling the same old tired story to the devs "it overheats" "it takes skill to charge shot" "does bad against armor" No it freaking doesn't. Ive used this weapon maxed out to pro 5 with three damage mods on my ak.0 and that thing destroys any other rifle at any given range. It doesnt care if i shoot shields nor armor either. The fact that this thing can out DPS an AR wielding gallente a "close range intended fit" in a CQC fight is ridiculous. Not even that it also out DPS's any other armor suit wielding at long range. Better yet why hasnt anyone made a video using the Viziam SCR destroying every single shield and armor suit at any range. Do i have to make one or what?

I dont mean to sound like i am being biased but i am tired of this overpowered weapon always being defended by certain players that use it but never telling the full story of how they can destroy shield suits in an instant. A shield suit is basically a free kill because they run little armor after their shields are destroyed. And guess what? the viziam doesnt care if it has 200 armor, 300 armor, 400 armor, 500 armor, 600 armor, 700 armor. It will eat that armor like if they were shields.

They could nerf the charged shot slightly by either increasing the charge time or reducing charge damage by 20-30%, but I'm not sure what else could be nerfed. It overheats after about 10 shots if you're not wearing the right suit, and the only suit that can wield it effectively is sloooow.

What boggles my mind is Rattati's statement that there's a huge jump in numbers but all I see nowadays are huge numbers of min assaults with CR or Cal assaults with RR. If my memory serves Ratatti mentioned that CR min assaults numbers were getting out of control too so maybe there'll be a double nerf! :)

scrambler is high skill?

keep charged and spam at short range, give me a break

Nah,They wouldnt like that. Its just the ScR thats Op but not the super strafing Min CR users

CR has way to strong hipfire accuracy ..when you can walk up in cqc and deal the full dps of a medium /long range gun it's a problem ..ie cr and scr are to strong in cqc

ScR is strong in CQC because of aim assist. Turn it off and watch it become abysmal for CQC

please make that video, as it's pretty easy to demonstrate

Come tomorrow I shall make a video demonstrating just that. We shall put these claims to the test. I think they won't hold any water.

You know that even if you provide video proof of the ScR performing on par with other service rifles it would be taken with a grain of salt.

Data. We need data.

Rattati, can you please provide the K/s for the ScR vs. RR vs. CR vs. AR? That would be really interesting to see.

Wanting evidence that supports the claim that the ScR is overperforming is not a crime, Breakin. I'm also having a hard time believing that a ScR nerf is necessary.

Could it have been stated better?
Maybe.

Also, seeing CR performance data would be useful.

So a corp called carne con papas run amar assaults with visiams sometimes ARR and all there kdrs average like 10 plus yeah because that's normal...

I just love how all of the scrambler rifle brigade is here defending their weapon

never telling the full story of how they can destroy shield suits in an instant. A shield suit is basically a free kill because they run little armor after their shields are destroyed.

And guess what? the viziam doesnt care if it has 200 armor, 300 armor, 400 armor, 500 armor, 600 armor, 700 armor. It will eat that armor like if they were shields.

Yes, we are, and you are part of the Assault Rifle "Brigade" correct? There's no shame in loving a particular weapon. The shame comes when you belittle others for their love and derail a positive and constructive process.

And here again:



Properly fitted shield suits will run lots of shields and low armor. The Scrambler is designed to destroy shields. I'm not sure what more can be said except that, in this respect, it's not the Scrambler that's giving you these problems. It's broken shield tanking.

To balance a weapon by judging it against a fitting style that most everybody agrees to be broken would seem to be like putting the cart before the horse. A bad idea.



First off, the statement that the Scrambler "will eat that armor like if they were shields" is factually incorrect. The Scrambler does less against Armor and more against Shield. Once again, that is what the weapon is designed for.

However, it seems obvious that your issue once again lies with being dispatched too quickly. If that is the case, it continues to reinforce the theory that the single shot is the culprit in your rapid demise.

Again, if the weapon was operating in Mid to Long range as it should, then it would make complete sense that you would ge outgunned. An armor tanked suit, slowly moving across a wide open field is just as good of a target as a shield suit it close quarters.

In conclusion then, if you are a shield tanked suit, expect to have a rough time with Amarr weapons. It's how God(CCP) designed them.

If you are having trouble with Scramblers at long range, yet again, you're in the weapon's optimal field of play.

And if you are being tormented by a Scrambler in short, CQC range, then yes; you have a legitimate grievance.