Mostly excited for the patch as it has potential..

Have same concerns as a few others.

Scrambler buff... Ok so no one in thier right mind runs shield fits as Armor>Shields... so lets buff the anti shield gun that no one is using since no one runs shields...

Instead of 3 people running shields on the server there will be around 1... the problem is using the scrambler sucks against armor and EVERYONE IS RUNNING ARMOR... balance shields first then look at the scrambler rifle.

Yo Rattati armor hardeners needed some love but going from 50% worse than shield hardeners to 50% better is swaying the pendulum pretty far in the direction of armor tanks. Infantry is already dominated by armor.. we want tanks doing the same thing?

That duration is going to make running Incubus and armor HAVS the only option... 30% makes far more sense given how long they last. Shield tanks have like 900 armor that spells death to any weapon while armor tanks have like 1200 shields that is used as a buffer...

while the regulators are a good start, without shield boosters being viable there are going to be A LOT of armor tanks.

Myofibrils + RE spam is going to get old fast

Dropsuit Shield and Armor tanking are currently at pretty good parity.

No...it's not.

it would have been fine pre armor rep buff, all that was needed is maybe put plasma and laser DR 5-6% per shield regulator...no one uses shields in competitive matches, and I don't use them much in pubs because the moment someone uses a ScR or AR I'm forced to go armor, or I die in 1 second flat.

I fear you might be misreading something there. From what I gathered, both armor and shield will now resist 40% damage, the only difference being shield hardeners last shorter and cool down slightly slower (same as it was before) so they are for all intensive purposes, inferior. Though I wouldn't say 50% difference..but regardless

Just throwing this out there but if we assume both will be 40%....is anyone really against just making them have the same duration/cooldown too?

Mostly excited for the patch as it has potential..

Have same concerns as a few others.

Scrambler buff... Ok so no one in thier right mind runs shield fits as Armor>Shields... so lets buff the anti shield gun that no one is using since no one runs shields...

Instead of 3 people running shields on the server there will be around 1... the problem is using the scrambler sucks against armor and EVERYONE IS RUNNING ARMOR... balance shields first then look at the scrambler rifle.

Yo Rattati armor hardeners needed some love but going from 50% worse than shield hardeners to 50% better is swaying the pendulum pretty far in the direction of armor tanks. Infantry is already dominated by armor.. we want tanks doing the same thing?

That duration is going to make running Incubus and armor HAVS the only option... 30% makes far more sense given how long they last. Shield tanks have like 900 armor that spells death to any weapon while armor tanks have like 1200 shields that is used as a buffer...

while the regulators are a good start, without shield boosters being viable there are going to be A LOT of armor tanks.

Myofibrils + RE spam is going to get old fast

Mostly excited for the patch as it has potential..

Have same concerns as a few others.

Scrambler buff... Ok so no one in thier right mind runs shield fits as Armor>Shields... so lets buff the anti shield gun that no one is using since no one runs shields...

Instead of 3 people running shields on the server there will be around 1... the problem is using the scrambler sucks against armor and EVERYONE IS RUNNING ARMOR... balance shields first then look at the scrambler rifle.

Yo Rattati armor hardeners needed some love but going from 50% worse than shield hardeners to 50% better is swaying the pendulum pretty far in the direction of armor tanks. Infantry is already dominated by armor.. we want tanks doing the same thing?

That duration is going to make running Incubus and armor HAVS the only option... 30% makes far more sense given how long they last. Shield tanks have like 900 armor that spells death to any weapon while armor tanks have like 1200 shields that is used as a buffer...

while the regulators are a good start, without shield boosters being viable there are going to be A LOT of armor tanks.

Myofibrils + RE spam is going to get old fast

reload will affect infantry effectiveness where as more damage won't, as it already OHK almost everyone

Dropsuit Shield and Armor tanking are currently at pretty good parity.

Dropsuit Shield and Armor tanking are currently at pretty good parity.

So with all those PC stats collected... Caldari suits ( Shield based ) that don't fit cloaks are on par with all the other suits in numbers spawned in, kills and KDR? Or any stat?

I will look for the stats but I am pretty sure there are about 3 people that run Caldari suits. All at range next to cover.

Mostly excited for the patch as it has potential..

Have same concerns as a few others.

Scrambler buff... Ok so no one in thier right mind runs shield fits as Armor>Shields... so lets buff the anti shield gun that no one is using since no one runs shields...

Instead of 3 people running shields on the server there will be around 1... the problem is using the scrambler sucks against armor and EVERYONE IS RUNNING ARMOR... balance shields first then look at the scrambler rifle.

Yo Rattati armor hardeners needed some love but going from 50% worse than shield hardeners to 50% better is swaying the pendulum pretty far in the direction of armor tanks. Infantry is already dominated by armor.. we want tanks doing the same thing?

That duration is going to make running Incubus and armor HAVS the only option... 30% makes far more sense given how long they last. Shield tanks have like 900 armor that spells death to any weapon while armor tanks have like 1200 shields that is used as a buffer...

while the regulators are a good start, without shield boosters being viable there are going to be A LOT of armor tanks.

Myofibrils + RE spam is going to get old fast

Dropsuit Shield and Armor tanking are currently at pretty good parity.

To be honest we need a reptool variant that regens shields. That would make shield suits much more viable cause the current meta in pubs is like this for competent squads:

-4Xarmor tanked suits (assaults/sentinels)
-1 repping logi (reptool, needle, hives and maybe links)
-1 scanner logi (3 active scanners and a nanohive)

That basically sums it up. A armor tanked squad will die much less and the logis will generate insane high amounts of WP to get OB's. A full shield tanked squad will never be aible to compete with that. Also anti shield weapons are much more brutal against caldari/minmatarr suits then anti armor weapons are against amarr/gallente. I seriously recommend to implement a reptool that only heals shields and give the Caldari Logi a bonus for that (basically a mirrored minnie logi).

Missiles are getting hit with several nerfs at the same time.... Half ROF( this was warranted) plus slower reload speed, AND less ammo? Why? And why are rails getting a ammo BUFF when they already have TONS more damage per mag and total damage than large missiles? Then we have the fact that Large Missiles are the most fitting intensive turret in the game, costing more CPU AND PG the the rail, which brings me to the conclusion that Missiles will be by far the worst turret for tanks.

The only thing I would change is the ROF. It is a little excessive, but everything else is fine. In fact, a reload speed BUFF is more appropriate than a nerf, seeing as how both the Blaster and Rail rely moreso on overheat, which is much faster than Large missile reload

Or just fix the actual shield problem instead of relying on teamates to fix it.

Will this affect backwards movement when jumping?



Side note for something else in the hotfix.

Would it be possible to increase the frequency of the maps that are just a large socket with very tight red lines?

These are very fun and seem to run much better in terms of performance.

What shield problem? There is none.
Ratatti just said that shields and armor have reached parity.

My anecdotal experience in game aligns with his statement.

My god, infantry-only Ambush? Is this for real? The very thing I think has been pleaded for since Chromsome.

I might actually have to plug-in my PS3 again...

The fact that shields get destroyed so fast you can't regenerate it?
cal assault regen fit, VS AR or ScR. The ScR is TOO effective vs shields, minmatar assaults have a chance though.
oh and they should have buffed shield regen/delay when they buffed armor reps.
reduce recharge delay on all min/cal suits by 1 second, medium and heavy frames only.

Shields don't need a super buff...just some small changes.

Trust me, vehicles are the least of your worries in Ambush now. Fear the Blob. Fear the Train.