85% of normal speed...not 85% reduction.

It means it is only being reduced by 15%
85% of walking speed, if walking speed was 4, then it would be 3.60m/s

Also, I need me a respec soon, I was thinking the patch would come out this month, so I could get one traded to me...

One concern with the ASCR, which I currently use. (Clearly making me an idiot since the weapon is apparently far crappier than I realized)

With an Amarr Assault at level 5, this gun does not overheat. I can fire a full clip without overheat, not that I would want to as the accuracy becomes worse than shooting blind.

With this large buff (which I am thankful for) I feel it might make the ASCR with an Amarr Assault too powerful. Basically it's drawback is moot, and you give it a free advantage at no downside.

AScR buff is too much. It is not as bad of a weapon as people say it is. Sure, it has issues with armor tankers, naturally, but apart from that it is quite decent already.

With this buff though it will have the highest DPS of all rifle assault variants AND the second highest range. Also, I found the heat built-up to not be a problem at all, not even if using a non-AM-Assault suit.

AScR will be Bolt Pistol 2.0. But I trust in Rattati to hotfix the hotfix in a timely manner if my predictions become reality.

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Myofibs only giving 25% jump height at PRO? Hm, I expected more. What about also reducing the CPU requirements a bit? Currently it requires 51 CPU, which is a lot for a module with such limited usefulness.

I forgot to ask if the removal/reduction of the ridiculous scan range penalty of the cloak was still on the table? Scout bonus encourages you to fit a cloak while you're better when running around without it, there is something not right here. Ask any good scouts, they use it only to climb ladders and sometimes to cross wide open areas or to hack an installation (only if it's in the open, otherwise it's better to hack uncloaked).

We do not want risk-free gameplay, neither picking your targets while invisible for a shot in the back, nor hacking with perfect awareness of your surroundings, while invisible.

Armor hardener needs to be viable, if you are hardening your shields, you still have them. That is not a luxury of armor hardeners.

However, armor has more health without hardeners than shields do. Shield hardeners should provide more ehp simply because shields have far less health to work with.

Why are large missiles so hated?
they are one of the least used turrets and yet its getting nerfed

Slower shooting, slower rof, slower reloading, less max ammo and lower burst interval And to add to insult we miss out on a new module Which Blaster and Railgun can utilize.

I would rather keep havs as they are then to further cripple the large missile turrets.

Shame on u.

Mostly excited for the patch as it has potential..

Have same concerns as a few others.

Scrambler buff... Ok so no one in thier right mind runs shield fits as Armor>Shields... so lets buff the anti shield gun that no one is using since no one runs shields...

Instead of 3 people running shields on the server there will be around 1... the problem is using the scrambler sucks against armor and EVERYONE IS RUNNING ARMOR... balance shields first then look at the scrambler rifle.

Yo Rattati armor hardeners needed some love but going from 50% worse than shield hardeners to 50% better is swaying the pendulum pretty far in the direction of armor tanks. Infantry is already dominated by armor.. we want tanks doing the same thing?

That duration is going to make running Incubus and armor HAVS the only option... 30% makes far more sense given how long they last. Shield tanks have like 900 armor that spells death to any weapon while armor tanks have like 1200 shields that is used as a buffer...

while the regulators are a good start, without shield boosters being viable there are going to be A LOT of armor tanks.

Myofibrils + RE spam is going to get old fast

No...it's not.

it would have been fine pre armor rep buff, all that was needed is maybe put plasma and laser DR 5-6% per shield regulator...no one uses shields in competitive matches, and I don't use them much in pubs because the moment someone uses a ScR or AR I'm forced to go armor, or I die in 1 second flat.

So with all those PC stats collected... Caldari suits ( Shield based ) that don't fit cloaks are on par with all the other suits in numbers spawned in, kills and KDR? Or any stat?

I will look for the stats but I am pretty sure there are about 3 people that run Caldari suits. All at range next to cover.

Dropsuit Shield and Armor tanking are currently at pretty good parity.

Or just fix the actual shield problem instead of relying on teamates to fix it.

The fact that shields get destroyed so fast you can't regenerate it?
cal assault regen fit, VS AR or ScR. The ScR is TOO effective vs shields, minmatar assaults have a chance though.
oh and they should have buffed shield regen/delay when they buffed armor reps.
reduce recharge delay on all min/cal suits by 1 second, medium and heavy frames only.

Shields don't need a super buff...just some small changes.

Ever since the armor rep buff, I have barely touched shields.
ScR and AR make it unbearable.

Shields were fine before the buff. They need a slight regen buff, like I said above.

And armor needs the strafe penalty reeuced slightly, I don't use regular armor plates on my AM assault.

Another thing I noticed.

Assault hmg does full damage to vehicles instead of 75%, very good.

The ammo nerf is...a bit much...ah well.

Not really.
You can stay at cover, and eveytime you shoot someone one time, they will shoot you and do alot of damage, forcing you to regen every time, while they continue advancing on you.

If you have 600 shields, you get a 50 rep rate, which is not much of an an advantage over armor ever since the rep buff.

Out of curiosity, Rattati - why are both of the new vehicle utility modules in high slots?
Great, I get access to fitting modules, hooray, I can still fit nothing more than usual because of the catastrophically high costs of the modules. I get a new tank module! great! Now I have nothing else to fit in those slots.

Why is it necessary to give all utility to the Madrugar, as well as making it near as durable as the Gunnlogi?

EDIT: I just realised that you're also in the process of (effectively) nerfing the effectiveness of AV against armour - it seems what's happening here is that the Gunnlogi's eHP is being (effectively) cut, on top of the Large Missile nerf - with the Large Blaster seeing so many repeated buffs, I'm really starting to struggle seeing a place for Gunnlogis.
I mean, hell - I can't even escape from a blaster Madrugar thanks to him being faster than me and also having space for nitrous without interrupting tank.


haha yeah missiles are the reason Maddies don't show up, but it's swarm missiles, not large missiles. Large missiles are even rarer than Madrugars.

So I don't know if you've ever tried using blasters against a Madrugar, but it's way more effective than using missiles on a Gunnlogi. Or using missiles against infantry. Or missiles against anything except a Madrugar who doesn't know you're there.

I believe his point is that an assault suit will be able to fill itself up on grenades over and over again.

Lets say an assault only resupplies two grenades before running off. The new increase gives 5 nanohives that can be deployed at various times. This means that with only a small pause and assault carrying a hive is now essentially carrying a total of 12 grenades. Just imagine a scout on high ground with 2 sets of nanohives. He now essentially has 22+ grenades to drop.

The same principle applies to REs.

I for one do not feel good about seeing all equipment go up by 3 because of this. I think the carried equipment count is just fine where it is.

Why assault hmg gets a 120 clip? It had to be 425! And range from normal hmg of 40,2 meters is to short, it has to be 60m! And the damage has to be by baundless 20.5!!!! Rattati you will lose very much players! I go to reallife, because only YOU destroy the game since Hotfix Alfa to much! All tank changes are also unnecessary!

I'm tempted to spec into myofibs now.

It's not rhetoric if it's true Rattati, it's called arguing the point. Many of us find swarms so frustrating because they are mathematically guaranteed to hit. Its 'consistency' has often been a very frustrating point of balance, I remember 1.6 gameplay where I was shot down by swarm fire from the other side of the map by someone who went 'oh noes there's a dropship out time to grab a swarm and aggressively hold r1 at this thing that offends me while standing on a nanohive for forever!'

The balance pendulum has swung many times on the swarm where it's gone from overpowered (pre 1.7) to useless (1.7 triple rep maddies) to powerful (hey it could kill tanks again!) to useless (dropships need only hit an afterburner to zoom away!) to powerful again (get too close to a swarm launcher and you are dead - user skill is irrelevant).

Maybe it's time to re-think the weapon from the ground up as it's clear that its current form is fundamentally flawed from a balance standpoint. I'd love to see a swarm launcher that can be boiled down to a wordsoup of 'plasma cannon + av grenade lockon'.

CCP rattati don't you dare rip a hole in lore just to give us Anti-shield swarms >:(

Who is more likely to die, the swarmer or the ADS?