Exept the gunlogi got a rep nerf and the maddy a rep buff.

Oh no!

Now trending at #itsunfairthatamaddygetsbetterrepsbysacrificing25%ofitstankslots!

Shield tanks will be 100% easier to kill.

Shield reps nerfed

Shield damage unable to be mitigated by alternating hardeners or activating more than one.

Shield EHP nerfed per engagement.

How have shields not been nerfed?

It gets damage mods with high tank...

sure.

exclusively in knife fighting (for tanks) range.

sure.

exclusively in knife fighting (for tanks) range.

that's probably because you're not doing what I do and playing showdown at high noon with said HAVs.

Look. I'm AV, I'm infantry.

I'm NOT going to advocate making it harder to hit or kill infantry.

Bluntly this puts the Cal and Gal tanks on equal standing roughly.

By my estimation that's a damn awesome thing.

Now if we have anti-shield heavy weapons and a heavy autocannon introduced we can really get down to business.

And once the amarr/min stuff pops up..

I'm drooling at the prospect of all these juicy fireballs.

Rattati got it right. Armor HAVs will be vulnerable to armor hitting weapons and highly resistant to shield crackers. Vice versa for shields.

it's amazing

Look at my horse/pony, my horse/pony is amazing~

1/10 your sarcasm is obvious.

Besides, my pony had a minigun harness, and is awesome beyond the boundaries of amazing.

that's probably because you're not doing what I do and playing showdown at high noon with said HAVs.

Look. I'm AV, I'm infantry.

I'm NOT going to advocate making it harder to hit or kill infantry.

Bluntly this puts the Cal and Gal tanks on equal standing roughly.

By my estimation that's a damn awesome thing.

Now if we have anti-shield heavy weapons and a heavy autocannon introduced we can really get down to business.

And once the amarr/min stuff pops up..

I'm drooling at the prospect of all these juicy fireballs.

Rattati got it right. Armor HAVs will be vulnerable to armor hitting weapons and highly resistant to shield crackers. Vice versa for shields.

it's amazing

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130202081345/falloutequestria/images/6/6a/War_Machine.png

I raise you one Brotherhood of steel powered armor pony.


Back to the other issue.

Elevation on all HAVs needs to go.

Needs to move to the turret base instead. Blasters should have the widest range until other rapid firing weapons make it in that are more suitable for AA work.

Missiles and rails should have the slowest elevation gains and lowest limits as missiles as are mostly useless against air targets to begin with and rails are simply too powerful against most dropships in a manner most similar to a large rail vs any lav.

I agree with you on that.

I raise you one Luna clapping gif here
and one curior in power armor (forgot the spelling.)

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130202081345/falloutequestria/images/6/6a/War_Machine.png

I raise you one Brotherhood of steel powered armor pony.


Back to the other issue.

Elevation on all HAVs needs to go.

Needs to move to the turret base instead. Blasters should have the widest range until other rapid firing weapons make it in that are more suitable for AA work.

Missiles and rails should have the slowest elevation gains and lowest limits as missiles as are mostly useless against air targets to begin with and rails are simply too powerful against most dropships in a manner most similar to a large rail vs any lav.

Pokey, I think I have a better Cv.0 fit, but it's using CPU and PG upgrades:
For 964 less shield eHP, it gains 1950 HP every 40s which is really great if the shield booster would never fail.

I agree with you on that.

I raise you one Luna clapping gif here
and one curior in power armor (forgot the spelling.)

Pokey, I think I have a better Cv.0 fit, but it's using CPU and PG upgrades:
For 964 less shield eHP, it gains 1950 HP every 40s which is really great if the shield booster would never fail.

They will be no where near equal, EHP and damage profiles are not the only numbers that matter.

4 second shield recharge delay is nearly 1/6 th of the hardener duration, now the repair rate has also dropped by 25%.

Don't get me wrong I am also fully specced in armor, so instead of you driving behind a rock in your LAV to shoot through said rock at my shield tank, it will be at my armor tank which will out rep most of your damage before I rail snipe you.

Maddy fits nitro with zero cost to its EHP, instant top speed in either direction with higher top speed than Gunlogi. While it lowers it's chances of being hit with activated nitro it us also instantly repping likely around 300 hp/s. Fluxes have next zero effect on Maddy while destroying shields. Shield tanks armor also nerfed to point an assault rifle could finish one off if shields are down.

If the idea is to only have gallente tanks outside the redline then carry on with these changes as is.

But dint complain about all the shield tanks sitting in the redline.

Show me a rep fit that can beat an IAFG Doc. Pics or it didn't happen.

and Forge guns will be weak vs. shield tanks so working as intended. Means we need anti-shield AV.

3x assorted repairers
2x assorted plates
basic railgun
assorted nitros etc in highs

+ ANY SORT OF COVER COMPARABLE TO THE COVER YOU ARE US ING WITH YOUR FORGE.

beats you as in I back up for 4 or 5 seconds in cover and outrep your damage where a shield tank will need around 14 to 20 seconds.

clear enough picture ?

The problem is the spreadsheet wizards and AV players are trying to balance around EHP, like there is weapon that unleashes 12000 damage in one second that will pop one tank but not the other. The reality is:

Shield hardeners increase ehp for 24 seconds base
Armor hardeners increase ehp for 36 seconds base
Ehp over the first 4 seconds of every tank battle will have most madrugars repping 1200 damage into additional ehp, more if hardened.
Shield damage threshold ( which armor does not have a version of) further reduces shield Ehp the longer the battle ensues.

AV players should not decide that which they do not understand.

It makes sense that you want mmore nerfs being an AV player, try not to be so obvious about it.

Unfortunately ratatti decided he wants shield tanks in the redline rail sniping while armor tanks nitro around the map repping 300 hps.

3x assorted repairers
2x assorted plates
basic railgun
assorted nitros etc in highs

+ ANY SORT OF COVER COMPARABLE TO THE COVER YOU ARE US ING WITH YOUR FORGE.

beats you as in I back up for 4 or 5 seconds in cover and outrep your damage where a shield tank will need around 14 to 20 seconds.

clear enough picture ?

The problem is the spreadsheet wizards and AV players are trying to balance around EHP, like there is weapon that unleashes 12000 damage in one second that will pop one tank but not the other. The reality is:

Shield hardeners increase ehp for 24 seconds base
Armor hardeners increase ehp for 36 seconds base
Ehp over the first 4 seconds of every tank battle will have most madrugars repping 1200 damage into additional ehp, more if hardened.
Shield damage threshold ( which armor does not have a version of) further reduces shield Ehp the longer the battle ensues.

AV players should not decide that which they do not understand.

It makes sense that you want mmore nerfs being an AV player, try not to be so obvious about it.

Unfortunately ratatti decided he wants shield tanks in the redline rail sniping while armor tanks nitro around the map repping 300 hps.

Elevation on all HAVs needs to go.

Needs to move to the turret base instead. Blasters should have the widest range until other rapid firing weapons make it in that are more suitable for AA work.

Missiles and rails should have the slowest elevation gains and lowest limits as missiles as are mostly useless against air targets to begin with and rails are simply too powerful against most dropships in a manner most similar to a large rail vs any lav.

3x assorted repairers
2x assorted plates
basic railgun
assorted nitros etc in highs

+ ANY SORT OF COVER COMPARABLE TO THE COVER YOU ARE US ING WITH YOUR FORGE.

beats you as in I back up for 4 or 5 seconds in cover and outrep your damage where a shield tank will need around 14 to 20 seconds.

clear enough picture ?

The problem is the spreadsheet wizards and AV players are trying to balance around EHP, like there is weapon that unleashes 12000 damage in one second that will pop one tank but not the other. The reality is:

Shield hardeners increase ehp for 24 seconds base
Armor hardeners increase ehp for 36 seconds base
Ehp over the first 4 seconds of every tank battle will have most madrugars repping 1200 damage into additional ehp, more if hardened.
Shield damage threshold ( which armor does not have a version of) further reduces shield Ehp the longer the battle ensues.

AV players should not decide that which they do not understand.

It makes sense that you want mmore nerfs being an AV player, try not to be so obvious about it.

Unfortunately ratatti decided he wants shield tanks in the redline rail sniping while armor tanks nitro around the map repping 300 hps.

3x assorted repairers
2x assorted plates
basic railgun
assorted nitros etc in highs

Doc DDD. So OP he can fit 5 modules into 4 slots!