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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2990
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:38:00 -
[91] - Quote
Not a huge fan of this fit: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/179/11796
3k damage per shot (2 shots virtually any dropship) 6k ehp
It just screams redline camper
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:45:00 -
[92] - Quote
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/138/11775 caldari vehicles need more cpu. If I use cpu mod, I need more pg.
If the caldari is going to have low regen and zero regen During combat, it needs to have something better than the maddy, and there is no way in hell I'm fitting a basic booster instead of adv or a pro booster, screw 70 second cooldowns. not hsving an adv hardener, cooldown is too long already with low duration.
Molestia approved
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:45:00 -
[93] - Quote
That's also dead in two shots from any proto AV it looks like.
Or a JLAV with STD REs. That's not a good fit.
AV
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2990
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:47:00 -
[94] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:That's also dead in two shots from any proto AV it looks like. Or a JLAV with STD REs. That's not a good fit. That's why its a redline sniper. It had enough ehp to back up far enough into its redline to be safe.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2990
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:51:00 -
[95] - Quote
duster 35000 wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/138/11775 caldari vehicles need more cpu. If I use cpu mod, I need more pg.
If the caldari is going to have low regen and zero regen During combat, it needs to have something better than the maddy, and there is no way in hell I'm fitting a basic booster instead of adv or a pro booster, screw 70 second cooldowns. not hsving an adv hardener, cooldown is too long already with low duration. Seriously, it should have been one or the other, not both long cooldown short duration. I don't think fitting 4 high-tiered heavy heavy mods like that is going to be accepted. Downgrade an extender or the booster. Personally, I'd just run small boosters since the heavies take waaaaay to much pg as is.
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:58:00 -
[96] - Quote
Vulpes Dolosus wrote:duster 35000 wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/138/11775 caldari vehicles need more cpu. If I use cpu mod, I need more pg.
If the caldari is going to have low regen and zero regen During combat, it needs to have something better than the maddy, and there is no way in hell I'm fitting a basic booster instead of adv or a pro booster, screw 70 second cooldowns. not hsving an adv hardener, cooldown is too long already with low duration. Seriously, it should have been one or the other, not both long cooldown short duration. I don't think fitting 4 high-tiered heavy heavy mods like that is going to be accepted. Downgrade an extender or the booster. Personally, I'd just run small boosters since the heavies take waaaaay to much pg as is. No extender downgrade, the caldari no longer hage regen, they have hp can't downgrade tye booster, too little in a fight, not going basic, way too long, need booster to compemsate for lack of regen.
They need to reduce costs of boosters, or something. Caldari have 126 reps 9er second, out of combat only. gallente now have it all. They got an upgrade from current maddy. Gunlogi got a downgrade.
Molestia approved
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2990
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:05:00 -
[97] - Quote
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/179/9084
Here's my try at a full blown proto fit Gunnlogi.
4.8k shield base. Two boosters help keep off infantry AV without having to waste the booster, and vs another tank gives about as much as a heavy shield booster, plus come back in 30s with skills and instantly restarts regen.
With the hardener, it gets 8k shield. Full proto, no fitting mods, not even max skills in fitting.
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:08:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/179/9084
Here's my try at a full blown proto fit Gunnlogi.
4.8k shield base. Two boosters help keep off infantry AV without having to waste the booster, and vs another tank gives about as much as a heavy shield booster, plus come back in 30s with skills and instantly restarts regen.
With the hardener, it gets 8k shield. Full proto, no fitting mods, not even max skills in fitting. I'll use that then...
Molestia approved
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:10:00 -
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So I have a gunnlogi fit that has 6175 Shields but only 900 armor.
with the hardener active it has 9509 shield EHP. vs railgun profiles without including the armor
against plasma profiles it has 7780 EHP without the armor.
Gladius
3x complex heavy extenders Complex shield hardener Complex Rail damage mod Prototype Rail Gun 2x STD small rails Complex CPU mod Complex PG mod.
Estimated shots to break shields from a triple-modded IAFG: 6.25 shots to break the shields alone. Since Forge guns are single shot alpha we have to round this up to a 7 shot TTK
Very not bad survivability.
AV
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:12:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:So I have a gunnlogi fit that has 6175 Shields but only 900 armor.
with the hardener active it has 9509 shield EHP. vs railgun profiles without including the armor
against plasma profiles it has 7780 EHP without the armor.
Gladius
3x complex heavy extenders Complex shield hardener Complex Rail damage mod Prototype Rail Gun 2x STD small rails Complex CPU mod Complex PG mod.
Estimated shots to break shields from a triple-modded IAFG: 6.25 shots to break the shields alone. Since Forge guns are single shot alpha we have to round this up to a 7 shot TTK
Very not bad survivability. No regen......relying on the now crappy regen is bad, you will lose tank fights if you fit a blaster vs a armor tank. Especially since blasters will be buffed I think.
Molestia approved
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:12:00 -
[101] - Quote
duster 35000 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:So I have a gunnlogi fit that has 6175 Shields but only 900 armor.
with the hardener active it has 9509 shield EHP. vs railgun profiles without including the armor
against plasma profiles it has 7780 EHP without the armor.
Gladius
3x complex heavy extenders Complex shield hardener Complex Rail damage mod Prototype Rail Gun 2x STD small rails Complex CPU mod Complex PG mod.
Estimated shots to break shields from a triple-modded IAFG: 6.25 shots to break the shields alone. Since Forge guns are single shot alpha we have to round this up to a 7 shot TTK
Very not bad survivability. No regen......relying on the now crappy regen is bad, you will lose tank fights if you fit a blastet vs a armor tank.
shield boosters are too expensive, even with the mods in the back end unless I downgrade it sharply
Never mind you and I have very different definitions of "crappy regen"
and this is a stand-off rail fit.
Why would I fit blaster fits the same as a railfit?
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:16:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:So I have a gunnlogi fit that has 6175 Shields but only 900 armor.
with the hardener active it has 9509 shield EHP. vs railgun profiles without including the armor
against plasma profiles it has 7780 EHP without the armor.
Gladius
3x complex heavy extenders Complex shield hardener Complex Rail damage mod Prototype Rail Gun 2x STD small rails Complex CPU mod Complex PG mod.
Estimated shots to break shields from a triple-modded IAFG: 6.25 shots to break the shields alone. Since Forge guns are single shot alpha we have to round this up to a 7 shot TTK
Very not bad survivability. No regen......relying on the now crappy regen is bad, you will lose tank fights if you fit a blastet vs a armor tank. shield boosters are too expensive, even with the mods in the back end unless I downgrade it sharply Never mind you and I have very different definitions of "crappy regen" 126 hp/s regen vs 305 regen and 4.5k armor, regens when shot at. shields don't regen under fire and don't have NOS.
Or 167 hp/s armor regen with 2 armor plates. maddy will always win a blaster fight.
Your edit: I was commenting on HAV's in general,
Molestia approved
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:17:00 -
[103] - Quote
duster 35000 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:So I have a gunnlogi fit that has 6175 Shields but only 900 armor.
with the hardener active it has 9509 shield EHP. vs railgun profiles without including the armor
against plasma profiles it has 7780 EHP without the armor.
Gladius
3x complex heavy extenders Complex shield hardener Complex Rail damage mod Prototype Rail Gun 2x STD small rails Complex CPU mod Complex PG mod.
Estimated shots to break shields from a triple-modded IAFG: 6.25 shots to break the shields alone. Since Forge guns are single shot alpha we have to round this up to a 7 shot TTK
Very not bad survivability. No regen......relying on the now crappy regen is bad, you will lose tank fights if you fit a blastet vs a armor tank. shield boosters are too expensive, even with the mods in the back end unless I downgrade it sharply Never mind you and I have very different definitions of "crappy regen" 126 hp/s regen vs 305 regen and 4.5k armor, regens when shot at. shields don't regen under fire and don't have NOS. Or 167 hp/s armor regen with 2 armor plates. maddy will always win a blaster fight.
triple repper?
HAHAHAHAHA. that;s the definition of a sh*tfit
And let's postulate that I have no intention of getting into a blaster fight with a railgun and your assertion becomes irrelevant. This is intended to be a long range killer not a knife fighter.
AV
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:18:00 -
[104] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:So I have a gunnlogi fit that has 6175 Shields but only 900 armor.
with the hardener active it has 9509 shield EHP. vs railgun profiles without including the armor
against plasma profiles it has 7780 EHP without the armor.
Gladius
3x complex heavy extenders Complex shield hardener Complex Rail damage mod Prototype Rail Gun 2x STD small rails Complex CPU mod Complex PG mod.
Estimated shots to break shields from a triple-modded IAFG: 6.25 shots to break the shields alone. Since Forge guns are single shot alpha we have to round this up to a 7 shot TTK
Very not bad survivability. No regen......relying on the now crappy regen is bad, you will lose tank fights if you fit a blastet vs a armor tank. shield boosters are too expensive, even with the mods in the back end unless I downgrade it sharply Never mind you and I have very different definitions of "crappy regen" 126 hp/s regen vs 305 regen and 4.5k armor, regens when shot at. shields don't regen under fire and don't have NOS. Or 167 hp/s armor regen with 2 armor plates. maddy will always win a blaster fight. triple repper? HAHAHAHAHA. that;s the definition of a shitfit I saw a tank with 2 reps at 305 reps...anyways the main point is armor will always regen more than shield...nno delays, in comabt, seems broken to me.
Molestia approved
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:19:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:
I saw a tank with 2 reps at 305 reps...anyways the main point is armor will always regen more than shield...nno delays, in comabt, seems broken to me.
all regen, no buffer means my forge gun's going to net me THOUSANDS of warpoints. it's a stupid build.
AV
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2990
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:22:00 -
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Got one more:
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/179/11799
"Cheap" pub fit. Used for hit and run infantry control; not necessarily against other tanks, though it could possibly take on missiles or rails up close.
Edit: also I'm copyrighting the dual light booster fits. I think they'll be really good (in fact, I know so since I already use them on my Myrons).
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:24:00 -
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I want to fight that
AV
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:26:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote:
I saw a tank with 2 reps at 305 reps...anyways the main point is armor will always regen more than shield...nno delays, in comabt, seems broken to me.
all regen, no buffer means my forge gun's going to net me THOUSANDS of warpoints. it's a stupid build. Yeah, not really.
Nitro and that regen with higher hp than current maddy? the proposed numbers allows more hp and regen than the current maddy, or just more hp. plate rep rep hardener
Nitro damage mod maybe.
Also, I'm on mobile, any new skills to increase cpu or pg?
Molestia approved
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2990
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:28:00 -
[109] - Quote
That's too bad because it probably won't stick around and fight back.
Nitro AWAAAAAAAAY!
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:28:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:That's too bad because it probably won't stick around and fight back. Nitro AWAAAAAAAAY! To the batcave!
Molestia approved
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:30:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:That's too bad because it probably won't stick around and fight back. Nitro AWAAAAAAAAY! To the batcave! I HOPE you run away!
Gives me a clear shot at your tailpipe.
AV
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:33:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:That's too bad because it probably won't stick around and fight back. Nitro AWAAAAAAAAY! To the batcave! I HOPE you run away! Gives me a clear shot at your tailpipe. Too bad I don't expose my backside for just ANYBODY.
Molestia approved
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:39:00 -
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duster 35000 wrote: Too bad I don't expose my backside for just ANYBODY.
Don't worry, I'm surprisingly gentle.
on another note, wasn't the PG mod supposed to be a high slot item?
AV
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duster 35000
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:41:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote: Too bad I don't expose my backside for just ANYBODY.
Don't worry, I'm surprisingly gentle. on another note, wasn't the PG mod supposed to be a high slot item? ...since when is this 4chan?
If it was, I'm going to buy a respec next month from some players and spec into the almighty armor tank.
If it was a high slot item, I'd he able to fit anything I want.
Molestia approved
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2991
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:43:00 -
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BRB, writing a new fanfic.
I'll call it...
Fifty Shades of Gunnlogi
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:45:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:BRB, writing a new fanfic.
I'll call it...
Fifty Shades of Gunnlogi It will be a masterpiece
AV
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7255
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:46:00 -
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But on a serious note, the Madrugar is still suffering some severe fitting limitations right now. I can fit a full armor tank and a proto gun, but I cannot fit anything in the highs.
and I have asstons of CPU remaining
AV
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2991
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:47:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote: Too bad I don't expose my backside for just ANYBODY.
Don't worry, I'm surprisingly gentle. on another note, wasn't the PG mod supposed to be a high slot item? I hope not, lows have nothing as is.
One thing I've noticed is that the Madrugar has a 3/4 slot layout where the Gunnlogi has a 5/2. Really the Madrugar needs a 2/5 since a) It really only needs two utility highs max, having to choose between nitro, damage, and/or scanner and b) the extra low will really help fit a respectable tank but allowing the use of a fitting mod.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7256
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:49:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:duster 35000 wrote: Too bad I don't expose my backside for just ANYBODY.
Don't worry, I'm surprisingly gentle. on another note, wasn't the PG mod supposed to be a high slot item? I hope not, lows have nothing as is. One thing I've noticed is that the Madrugar has a 3/4 slot layout where the Gunnlogi has a 5/2. Really the Madrugar needs a 2/5 since a) It really only needs two utility highs max, having to choose between nitro, damage, and/or scanner and b) the extra low will really help fit a respectable tank but allowing the use of a fitting mod. 2/5 is reserved for the amarr HAV
AV
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3313
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:52:00 -
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Still playing with numbers, but I just want to say THANK YOU CCP for allowing the community to tinker with protofits first before releasing them on the server <3
I love this idea.
Also thank you for more slots and thus more diverse builds <3
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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