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XxBlazikenxX
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Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'm willing to bet that this guy has only ever been killed by an ADS maybe once or twice, and as soon as he did he came to the forums to whine and complain. About 17 times. I've so far killed about 90.
WHY THE HECK ARE YOU COMPLAINING THEN?!
Your argument is invalid.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:12:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Guys. Please keep it civil and constructive. Otherwise I will have to lock this down. Thank you.
you can lock me down any day of the week babe
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:17:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:CCP Frame wrote:Guys. Please keep it civil and constructive. Otherwise I will have to lock this down. Thank you. Please lock it down, this argument is pointless in the first place. This guy is just to stubborn to see otherwise.
Yes, silence the person speaking reason.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:20:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:CCP Frame wrote:Guys. Please keep it civil and constructive. Otherwise I will have to lock this down. Thank you. Please lock it down, this argument is pointless in the first place. This guy is just to stubborn to see otherwise. Yes, silence the person speaking reason.
I see you're talking to yourself again. It's a bad habit you know.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:20:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'm willing to bet that this guy has only ever been killed by an ADS maybe once or twice, and as soon as he did he came to the forums to whine and complain. About 17 times. I've so far killed about 90. WHY THE HECK ARE YOU COMPLAINING THEN?! Your argument is invalid.
Why? Because I hate broken ****?
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:20:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:CCP Frame wrote:Guys. Please keep it civil and constructive. Otherwise I will have to lock this down. Thank you. Please lock it down, this argument is pointless in the first place. This guy is just to stubborn to see otherwise. Yes, silence the person speaking reason.
You're the only person asking for this change, and even HAV operators disagree with you. Why on earth do you think you're the one speaking reason?!
For 15 pages you've just being plugging your ears and going, "I'm not listening, blah blah blah. I'm right because I say I'm right, not listening!" And that's a mostly verbatim paraphrasing!
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:23:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'm willing to bet that this guy has only ever been killed by an ADS maybe once or twice, and as soon as he did he came to the forums to whine and complain. About 17 times. I've so far killed about 90. WHY THE HECK ARE YOU COMPLAINING THEN?! Your argument is invalid. Why? Because I hate broken ****?
It's only broken because you hate being wrong. You have to be right, you will not see reason so you try to warp other people's minds to your view.
Everyone has a voice, and your voice is the only voice asking for this, so man up, or keep complaining.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:31:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:CCP Frame wrote:Guys. Please keep it civil and constructive. Otherwise I will have to lock this down. Thank you. Please lock it down, this argument is pointless in the first place. This guy is just to stubborn to see otherwise. Yes, silence the person speaking reason. You're the only person asking for this change, and even HAV operators disagree with you. Why on earth do you think you're the one speaking reason?! For 15 pages you've just being plugging your ears and going, "I'm not listening, blah blah blah. I'm right because I say I'm right, not listening!" And that's a mostly verbatim paraphrasing!
And you've done no different? You've quite literally came back with the exact same **** over, and over, and over, and over. and when I point out exactly why it is wrong, you simply say "I don't care, you're still wrong." That's wheat every last one of you've done. You make it out as if all I want for ADS's is to simply be killed by a HAV, when that's entirely false. I've over 10 times now stated what I wanted, and some people actually addressed problems with ADS's in general otherwise not getting much points, and even addressed how it could be reasonably done. Both things I easily addressed, and those people ended up agreeing with me.
But no. Most of you, especially you thinks that it's perfectly fine, when it's clearly not. I ask you to give me examples of how, and you claim that using things that assumes that there's people ALWAYS willing to help you, that AI will ALWAYS help you, and the terrain can't be simply countered by the ADS is a thing, when ALL of those things are simply wrong. Again, prove to me that isn't the case. You've yet to, and I'm waiting to see otherwise.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:33:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I'm willing to bet that this guy has only ever been killed by an ADS maybe once or twice, and as soon as he did he came to the forums to whine and complain. About 17 times. I've so far killed about 90. WHY THE HECK ARE YOU COMPLAINING THEN?! Your argument is invalid. Why? Because I hate broken ****? It's only broken because you hate being wrong. You have to be right, you will not see reason so you try to warp other people's minds to your view. Everyone has a voice, and your voice is the only voice asking for this, so man up, or keep complaining.
So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
EDIT: Why the **** are you liking all of my ****?
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:
So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
Not before you prove that you're right.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:40:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
Not before you prove that you're right.
I've given my evdience
I've been able to easily kill HAV's.
I've not seen blaster and Rocket HAV's able to reasonably able to defend against ADS's.
Provide otherwise.
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Jammeh McJam
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:44:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
Not before you prove that you're right. I've given my evdience I've been able to easily kill HAV's. I've not seen blaster and Rocket HAV's able to reasonably able to defend against ADS's. Provide otherwise.
You didn't give evidence, you told us you can easily take out tanks in ADS, that's just your word. There are ADS pilots and other tankers in this thread that all disagree with you, why are you so convinced that you're right? Just because it happened in your experience doesn't mean that it's the same for everyone else, atm it just makes you seem like a terrible player.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:44:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
Not before you prove that you're right. I've given my evdience I've been able to easily kill HAV's. I've not seen blaster and Rocket HAV's able to reasonably able to defend against ADS's. Provide otherwise. You didn't give evidence, you told us you can easily take out tanks in ADS, that's just your word. There are ADS pilots and other tankers in this thread that all disagree with you, why are you so convinced that you're right? Just because it happened in your experience doesn't mean that it's the same for everyone else, atm it just makes you seem like a terrible player.
I was about to say something like this so I won't even bother now. I totally support this post.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:46:00 -
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Everyone, let's all whenever you see Godin Thekiller in a match, immediately get an ADS out and try to kill him with it as much as possible.
YOU DUG YOU OWN GRAVE
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:48:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
Not before you prove that you're right. I've given my evdience I've been able to easily kill HAV's. I've not seen blaster and Rocket HAV's able to reasonably able to defend against ADS's. Provide otherwise. You didn't give evidence, you told us you can easily take out tanks in ADS, that's just your word. There are ADS pilots and other tankers in this thread that all disagree with you, why are you so convinced that you're right? Just because it happened in your experience doesn't mean that it's the same for everyone else, atm it just makes you seem like a terrible player.
Yes, by giving word of mouth, and The ways they said that they believe are actual counters don't work.
I've looked for examples of otherwise, I've yet to find any, only videos showing my point (the video that the fool posted does that quite nice, and it's only rails, but to be fair, it's only one video).
I can't record, so that's out.
Also, why are you so convinced that I'm wrong? you've yet given me a valid reasoning. Popular opinion can't show truth on anything. Hell, I've been told that JLAV's are completely fine by infantry. Are they? Absolutely not.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:48:00 -
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I can not wait until CCP Frame locks this forum post, than I won't have to deal with this stupidity.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:49:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Everyone, let's all whenever you see Godin Thekiller in a match, immediately get an ADS out and try to kill him with it as much as possible.
YOU DUG YOU OWN GRAVE
Not really, I don't actually care. It's still broken however.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:51:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I can not wait until CCP Frame locks this forum post, than I won't have to deal with this stupidity.
I'll simply make another. I don't care, broken **** is broken.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:51:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Everyone, let's all whenever you see Godin Thekiller in a match, immediately get an ADS out and try to kill him with it as much as possible.
YOU DUG YOU OWN GRAVE Not really, I don't actually care. It's still broken however.
Since apparently you've been killed by ADSs so many times, you're the only one that's 'broke' here.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:52:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Everyone, let's all whenever you see Godin Thekiller in a match, immediately get an ADS out and try to kill him with it as much as possible.
YOU DUG YOU OWN GRAVE Not really, I don't actually care. It's still broken however. Since apparently you've been killed by ADSs so many times, you're the only one that's 'broke' here.
17 times.
I've gotten over a hundred HAV kills now.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:53:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:But no. Most of you, especially you thinks that it's perfectly fine, when it's clearly not. I ask you to give me examples of how, and you claim that using things that assumes that there's people ALWAYS willing to help you, that AI will ALWAYS help you, and the terrain can't be simply countered by the ADS is a thing, when ALL of those things are simply wrong. Again, prove to me that isn't the case. You've yet to, and I'm waiting to see otherwise.
Godin Thekiller wrote:So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
That is exactly how science works: without evidence that something works/doesn't work a certain way, it's generally disregarded as a theory.
Godin Thekiller wrote:I've given my evdience
I've been able to easily kill HAV's.
I've not seen blaster and Rocket HAV's able to reasonably able to defend against ADS's.
Provide otherwise.
Your evidence has been to state that your individual experience is a certain.
Roughly half a dozen ADS pilots and/or HAV operators have entered this thread and given their experience which amounts to the opposite of your experience.
They have provided no more and no less than you have. Why do you feel that you've actually done more work than they have, and why do you feel they should do more work than you?
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:54:00 -
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A question to all: Why is it bad to not want to have to rely on teamwork?
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:55:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:A question to all: Why is it bad to not want to have to rely on teamwork?
Because this is a tactical shooter. You know what tactics are? Well it sure isn't lone wolfing.
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Jammeh McJam
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:57:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT.
Not before you prove that you're right. I've given my evdience I've been able to easily kill HAV's. I've not seen blaster and Rocket HAV's able to reasonably able to defend against ADS's. Provide otherwise. You didn't give evidence, you told us you can easily take out tanks in ADS, that's just your word. There are ADS pilots and other tankers in this thread that all disagree with you, why are you so convinced that you're right? Just because it happened in your experience doesn't mean that it's the same for everyone else, atm it just makes you seem like a terrible player. Yes, by giving word of mouth, and The ways they said that they believe are actual counters don't work. I've looked for examples of otherwise, I've yet to find any, only videos showing my point (the video that the fool posted does that quite nice, and it's only rails, but to be fair, it's only one video). I can't record, so that's out. Also, why are you so convinced that I'm wrong? you've yet given me a valid reasoning. Popular opinion can't show truth on anything. Hell, I've been told that JLAV's are completely fine by infantry. Are they? Absolutely not.
Well they obviously do work, because everyone else here seems to have no problem in carrying the counters out, it's just you
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:57:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:A question to all: Why is it bad to not want to have to rely on teamwork?
Why, when several HAV operators have said otherwise, do you think this is an issue for everyone and not just you?
Multiple HAV operators have said that defending themselves against an ADS (even without using teamwork or hopping out with AV) is fine, yet you continue to disregard their consolidated, collective experience because it doesn't mesh with your individual experience.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:01:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:But no. Most of you, especially you thinks that it's perfectly fine, when it's clearly not. I ask you to give me examples of how, and you claim that using things that assumes that there's people ALWAYS willing to help you, that AI will ALWAYS help you, and the terrain can't be simply countered by the ADS is a thing, when ALL of those things are simply wrong. Again, prove to me that isn't the case. You've yet to, and I'm waiting to see otherwise. Godin Thekiller wrote:So if I own a invisible unicorn that only I can detect, I say it is real and everyone else says it's not, I'm wrong? Using your logic, I am.
Just because a trillion people believe your warped opinion, that doesn't make your warped opinion right you fool. PROVE IT'S RIGHT. That is exactly how science works: without evidence that something works/doesn't work a certain way, it's generally disregarded as a theory. Godin Thekiller wrote:I've given my evdience
I've been able to easily kill HAV's.
I've not seen blaster and Rocket HAV's able to reasonably able to defend against ADS's.
Provide otherwise. Your evidence has been to state that your individual experience is a certain. Roughly half a dozen ADS pilots and/or HAV operators have entered this thread and given their experience which amounts to the opposite of your experience. They have provided no more and no less than you have. Why do you feel that you've actually done more work than they have, and why do you feel they should do more work than you?
1: Science is irrelevant in that example, as only I can detect it. It is simply real, but you simply can't detect it. Answer the question: Am I wrong?
2: Actually, that is false.There wasn't anything provided other than "You are wrong! YOU ARE WRONG!" to prove me wrong. I've tried to keep civil, and if someone explained themselves, and asked for alternatives, as well as things to help with the quality of life for ADS's and DS's in general, I provided it.
Again, tell me why/and or how a turret elevation increase and a ADS ceiling height slight reduction would break any balance, or not create more balance. None of you so far has.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Godin Thekiller wrote:You can easily go to whatever the turret is not facing, and shoot them on that side, rise up and go to the other side if they aim at you, rinse and repeat.
And although if you get lucky with a Rocket turret and hit them (but if that's the case, that's ADS pilot error, not the HAV actually countering them), blaster turrets won't have near enough DPS to deal with them, and although that's changing in this rebalance, it probably still won't be enough, seeing how fast ADS's climb.
And on top of that, there's like, what, three maps that has cover like this?
Like I said, whatever a HAV can do, ADS can counter.
Why is it luck that the missile tanker kept an eye on the radar and pointed the turret the right direction... But apparently the ads having no indication of which way the tanks turret is facing, isn't?
There are more than 3 maps that have something you can park a tank under to force an ads to drop altitude if it wants to hit you.
While the ads changes it's position you are free to heal your tank, or make a break for somewhere else, either to escape or to be able to fire at the ads as it tries to pull up.
Godin Thekiller wrote:A question to all: Why is it bad to not want to have to rely on teamwork?
I haven't mentioned teamwork. I mentioned all the things you can do to beat a dropship using a missile tank.
You stated that a tank cannot escape or fight an ads, I have told you that you can by simply out-thinking the opponent, the same as the ads has to out-think the tanker to get into their blindspot if the tanker is using it's brain.
XxBlazikenxX wrote:Everyone, let's all whenever you see Godin Thekiller in a match, immediately get an ADS out and try to kill him with it as much as possible.
YOU DUG YOU OWN GRAVE
No!
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:05:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:A question to all: Why is it bad to not want to have to rely on teamwork? Why, when several HAV operators have said otherwise, do you think this is an issue for everyone and not just you? Multiple HAV operators have said that defending themselves against an ADS ( even without using teamwork or hopping out with AV) is fine, yet you continue to disregard their consolidated, collective experience because it doesn't mesh with your individual experience.
So because I can't run a squad all the time or at all, it's clearly my fault.
Okay, if that's the case, then why does the ADS STILL not require teamwork?
And actually, I have took their experiences into account. They are however, quite ******* invalid, as I said so many ******* times already, which you seem to not understand, REQUIRING TEAMWORK AGAINST SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T IS BROKEN YOU IDIOT. If you can't understand that, either you simply don't care, your head is so far up your ass that you simply can't get it, or you simply refuse to get it.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:08:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:A question to all: Why is it bad to not want to have to rely on teamwork? Why, when several HAV operators have said otherwise, do you think this is an issue for everyone and not just you? Multiple HAV operators have said that defending themselves against an ADS ( even without using teamwork or hopping out with AV) is fine, yet you continue to disregard their consolidated, collective experience because it doesn't mesh with your individual experience.
By large in-part yes, defending against an ADS is fine with the primary HAV turret I use, the Railgun, however, defending one's HAV against an ADS with a Blaster is considerably more difficult. Now this is both as a result of the much shorter range of the blaster turret, along with the lack of associated physics with the projectiles on-impact...and the Blasters AV utility as a whole being lower than that of the other main turrets, and isn't helped by the marginal angle increase relative to the rail. (I'm ignoring the Missile Turret because it is in a very bad place for balance right now) The scaling of the angle needs to be better is what I'm saying...and in that I agree with Godin...Short-Ranged turrets need help.
I'm not asking for Large Blasters to be able to point straight up, but giving them the ability to aim higher up in the air would do much to help mitigate the issue.
Railguns have their low angle as an associated penalty for their unerring accuracy over a long distance (albeit, not as long as it used to be, and still not as long as I'd like it to be), and rails as a whole are functioning well in their intended role (but as True Adamance will tell you, they have too high of a RoF, but the DPS on the whole is OK)
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:16:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:You can easily go to whatever the turret is not facing, and shoot them on that side, rise up and go to the other side if they aim at you, rinse and repeat.
And although if you get lucky with a Rocket turret and hit them (but if that's the case, that's ADS pilot error, not the HAV actually countering them), blaster turrets won't have near enough DPS to deal with them, and although that's changing in this rebalance, it probably still won't be enough, seeing how fast ADS's climb.
And on top of that, there's like, what, three maps that has cover like this?
Like I said, whatever a HAV can do, ADS can counter.
Why is it luck that the missile tanker kept an eye on the radar and pointed the turret the right direction... But apparently the ads having no indication of which way the tanks turret is facing, isn't? There are more than 3 maps that have something you can park a tank under to force an ads to drop altitude if it wants to hit you. While the ads changes it's position you are free to heal your tank, or make a break for somewhere else, either to escape or to be able to fire at the ads as it tries to pull up. Godin Thekiller wrote:A question to all: Why is it bad to not want to have to rely on teamwork? I haven't mentioned teamwork. I mentioned all the things you can do to beat a dropship using a missile tank. You stated that a tank cannot escape or fight an ads, I have told you that you can by simply out-thinking the opponent, the same as the ads has to out-think the tanker to get into their blindspot if the tanker is using it's brain. XxBlazikenxX wrote:Everyone, let's all whenever you see Godin Thekiller in a match, immediately get an ADS out and try to kill him with it as much as possible.
YOU DUG YOU OWN GRAVE No! I will bring out a missile tank. He wants proof, if I can give him it, he might actually shut up... Or go on to say "it only happened once, so I'm disregarding it because my opinion is better than everyone else."
I can simply look at the map, and fly high and fast right past the rockets optimal range without it even hitting me maybe?
And You can easily be swarmed at that area (but invalid because teamwork, so we'll ignore this fact), or the ADS can simply shoot at the side you're not aiming at, climb when you start shooting, and go to the other side, as I've already said several times.
Moving allows the ADS to shoot at you, and escaping is borderline impossible unless the ADS gets distracted (in which implies teamwork), or is a complete idiot, and balancing on idiots is silly. That's how swarms become OP.
Never said you did, but a Rocket HAV can be easily countered by a ADS by movement alone. That still doesn't cover the fact that blasters are even worse (but they are generally bad, and need a general overhaul anyways. Also, why they don't have the highest elevation is beyond me, seeing as they are the shortest ranged turret).
Cool. Get multiple examples so I can analyze it. And be sure to find a pilot as skilled as you for more valid proof.
Lastly, I never said that my opinions are "better", as I'm not arguing opinions. Facts more so. I've yet to see a blaster or Rocket reasonably counter a ADS. that is simply fact.
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