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CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 8869	Posted - 2014.08.06 23:39:00 - [1] - Quote Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Turrets Turrets will now no longer slow their targets movement speed when they hit Large Blaster Turret Dispersion Decay at Max Dispersion has been increased, increasing the rate of accuracy recovery at higher dispersion levels Small Blasters now have much smaller dispersion growth, smaller maximum and minimum dispersion, higher dispersion decay and lower dispersion when aiming down sights Increased Small Blaster Heat per Second from 15 to 25 so it will now overheat before end of the clip Increased Small Blaster Base Damage from 38 to 44 Handheld Weapons Increased Heat per Second on Standard/Advanced/Prototype HMGs from 14/13.3/11.9 to 16/15.2/14.4 Rebalanced Burst HMGs. These now fire and overheat much quicker, delivering high damage for short periods of time Changed base effective range on all HMGs at all tiers to 52.5m. Assault HMGs still have increased range over basic and burst variants Changed Sniper Crosshair from fixed dot to a small open circle similar to the Laser Rifle Nova Knives now have 50% efficacy against vehicles. Nova Knives are still unable to damage installations including turrets Decreased delay between releasing trigger and hitting with Nova Knives from 0.3 and 0.55 seconds to 0.2 and 0.45 seconds Added Aim Adhesion to Nova Knives Increased range from 2m to 2.5m for all Nova Knives Increase damage for standard and advanced knives from 90/150 to 120/160 Changed charge time for all standard knives to 1.2 seconds (from 1.5 and 1 for AUR variants) Increased all Assault Scrambler Rifle's Heat per Second from 15 to 23.5 so they now overheat within a single clip All Swarm Launchers now fire 4 missiles at all tiers Swarm Launcher missile damage now increases per tier. For STD/ADV/PRO, new damage per missile is 260/286/312 from 220/220/220 Increased base reserve ammo for swarm launcher from 6 to 10 Dropsuits Removed extra sidearm slot from Imperial Commando ak.0 Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary All Assault Dropsuits have received additional health. New base values are (Armor/Shield) - Amarr: 315/145, Caldari: 155/275, Gallente: 275/155, Minmatar: 185/200 All Assault Suits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 1H/3L, 2H/4L, 3H/5L -Caldari: 3H/1L, 4H/2L, 5H/3L -Gallente: 1H/3L, 2H/4L, 3H/5L -Minmatar: 2H/2L, 3H/3L, 4H/4L All Assault Dropsuits have had their base amounts of PG/CPU updated, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 164CPU/33PG, 246CPU/50PG, 369CPU/74PG -Caldari: 178CPU/27PG, 267CPU/41PG, 401CPU/61PG -Gallente: 169CPU/31PG, 254CPU/47PG, 380CPU/70PG -Minmatar: 174CPU/29PG, 261CPU/44PG, 392CPU/65PG All Racial Assault Dropsuit skills now give a 5% reduction in PG/CPU requirements for grenades in addition to their light/sidearm weapon fitting bonus All Sentinel Dropsuits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 0H/3L, 1H/3L, 1H/4L -Caldari: 3H/0L, 3H/1L, 3H/2L -Gallente: 1H/2L, 1H/3L, 2H/3L -Minmatar: 2H/1L, 2H/2L, 3H/2L All Sentinel Dropsuits have had their base amounts of PG/CPU updated, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 134CPU/30PG, 188CPU/42PG, 255CPU/57PG -Caldari: 164CPU/23PG, 230CPU/32PG, 312CPU/44PG -Gallente: 144CPU/28PG, 202CPU/39PG, 274CPU/53PG -Minmatar: 154CPU/26PG, 216CPU/36PG, 293CPU/49PG Modules Reduced PG usage of ADV and PRO Codebreakers from 11/5 to 10/4 Increased Enhanced and Complex Reactive Plating Repair Rates from 1/2 to 2/3 Reduced PG requirements of all Kinetic Catalyzers by 1 Sidearm and Light Weapon Damage Modifiers have been increased from 3%/4%/5% damage bonus to 4%/6%/8% and 3%/5%/7% respectively. Heavy Weapon Damage Modifiers remain unchanged Vehicles Increased Shields for Caldari Dropships by 500 Increased Recall time on Dropships and HAVs to 15, LAVs to 10 from 5 seconds for all vehicles Installations Turrets Armor and Shields have been increased from 750/3150 to 2000/10000 All installations now have passive armor repair. Turrets have 5hp/s, Clone Reanimation Units 20hp/s and Supply Depots have 30hp/s Missile Launcher Installations range has been reduced from 2000m to 250m to match vehicle mounted Large Missile Launchers Turrets will no longer automatically shoot any infantry that move near them. Turret detection range against all vehicles has been reduced to 75m Turrets can now detect targets in any direction All turrets will now lose targets that move out of Line of Sight after 3 seconds Note: Turrets will still return fire on any target that fires upon them (including infantry) For more details, please see this thread. CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8950	Posted - 2014.08.06 23:52:00 - [2] - Quote Are other suits not going to get slot adustments in Charlie according to that matrix, just Assault and Sentinel? Especially Amarr Logi which at prototype is still holding onto the 3H 4L (should be 2H 5L) from when Amarr were considered dual tankers in Dust. Also noticed the Loyalty Point payout increase isn't listed here, but is in the other thread. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1540	Posted - 2014.08.06 23:57:00 - [3] - Quote Pretty solid I think. Nice to see assaults get some love. The swarm changes may be a concern but I'll wait to see how they feel. I'm pleased about the installation changes. They should be tougher to kill and be more valuable asserts worth protecting rather than just a hinderance or minor obstacle. Particually happy about the sniper scope. Never liked the red dot and I think the circle will be easier to use for DS3 users. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 846	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:01:00 - [4] - Quote Have the scout changes been delayed? Not sure why they aren't on the list. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
CoochMaster Flex Contract Hunters 0	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:08:00 - [5] - Quote Well I got ****** over. For some reason I'm not happy with the slot layout for the minmatar assault suit. I should be, but I would've been happy with a 4H/3L. Turrets just suck now, all they got is their defense now. I'm glad with the extra sheild they got now, cuz the tankers blow them up instantly for points. Missles range should've never been decreased, I guess all the dropship pilots cried their ass off for that one. I guess I'll just have to adapt to the fresh atmosphere.
BL4CKST4R LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 2863	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:10:00 - [6] - Quote Now there is just one manner left to attend. Release date. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 846	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:14:00 - [7] - Quote CoochMaster Flex wrote: Well I got ****** over. For some reason I'm not happy with the slot layout for the minmatar assault suit. I should be, but I would've been happy with a 4H/3L. Turrets just suck now, all they got is their defense now. I'm glad with the extra sheild they got now, cuz the tankers blow them up instantly for points. Missles range should've never been decreased, I guess all the dropship pilots cried their ass off for that one. I guess I'll just have to adapt to the fresh atmosphere. If you've never ADS'd you have no idea how annoying it is for an unmanned missle turret in enemy red line to track and constantly shot you across most of the map. Missile turrets needed its range reduced for a long time. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
nicholas73 Glitched Connection 162	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:16:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Proud member of Glitched Connection

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 8873	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:18:00 - [9] - Quote nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3850	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:35:00 - [10] - Quote Did you eventually changed the colour on it to something "unique" to enhance its scaryness? They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"

J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 521	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:43:00 - [11] - Quote I'm really looking forward to the installation HP buffs. I think it's a great change -- will require longtime vets to rethink their various strategies when attacking/defending maps. I like the buff for OBs, but 5000 WP seems a little high to me -- I hope you guys will be monitoring this to see how it performs. In a good squad, it's easy for me to get 2-3 OBs in a match, but I hope they don't become impossible to hit. I'm thinking 3500 to 4000 might be a better number. Not sure how I feel about my Amarr Sentinel. I went Amarr mostly for the resistance to HMG bonus, and the ability to gank with damage mods if I wanted, but I'll withhold judgement until I've put in some rounds with it. Looking forward to it, thanks for the hard work! Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1431	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:43:00 - [12] - Quote I knew I hated Missile Installations for a reason... 2000m, what were you guys thinking? If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 5176	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:44:00 - [13] - Quote Why did the HMG get a range Nerf again? Didn't we go through this already? I suppose the whining on the forums caused this to happen again? The overheat was plenty of a Nerf the range nerf was just placating the community who cries the loudest on the forums. And I see we still have not fixed the first strike from being cloaked, which we were promised before it ever made it into the game would never happen.
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 371	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:51:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Does this mean it actually drops as a salvage now and if not there is no point to this... you **** teaser you. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3850	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:52:00 - [15] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Does this mean it actually drops as a salvage now and if not there is no point to this... **** teaser you. Oh i hope not cause that would devalue my 25 copys of them. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 371	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:53:00 - [16] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Miokai Zahou wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Does this mean it actually drops as a salvage now and if not there is no point to this... **** teaser you. Oh i hope not cause that would devalue my 25 copys of them. There no value unless there is a player market which makes me a sad panda. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3850	Posted - 2014.08.07 00:55:00 - [17] - Quote There is value to them even if its just for sentimental reasons. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 367	Posted - 2014.08.07 01:00:00 - [18] - Quote Please answer my questions about the sniper rifle cross hair change.. it's in this thread. Sniper Rifle Cross Hair Change Thank You. If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
Symbioticforks Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 367	Posted - 2014.08.07 01:02:00 - [19] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Particually happy about the sniper scope. Never liked the red dot and I think the circle will be easier to use for DS3 users. The round in the sniper rifle isn't getting any bigger. How will this be helpful? I have serious doubts. See the thread above. If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
Not Iggy Nos Nothi 210	Posted - 2014.08.07 01:10:00 - [20] - Quote I dont think the PG reduction of kincats, codbreakers is enough, but we will see. I don't see a PG reduction on Knives, nor a mention of getting proficiency bonus to reduce their powergrid. Was this forgotten about from the patch notes or did it not make it into this hotfix? I see it in the "numbers" sheet but its just not stated here. In all, I don't think the PG reduction is enough to boost their use, a couple extra PG will be helpful, but I guess time will tell once it hits TQ IgniteableAura

Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1276	Posted - 2014.08.07 01:53:00 - [21] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: I knew I hated Missile Installations for a reason... 2000m, what were you guys thinking? The reason they were 2000m was back in early closed beta, installations could do real damage to a moving MCC, thus they could shoot it way off in the distance, they never updated the projectile since then. The current devs might not even know this history Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Zhenechka Zivonencia Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 7	Posted - 2014.08.07 01:59:00 - [22] - Quote I thought: Sentinels = Juggernaut they are supposed to be pretty powerful and now they are mega nerfed. Someone wines about them and now they get nerfed, hmmmm. Im pretty sure their role HAS been fitted and yeah they been op but dude they r easy to kill if you have the range. I think the people need to get brains and learn to approach them the right way
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1276	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:01:00 - [23] - Quote Would definitely like to see the base stats on standard dropship get a minor boost, either that or restore the logistics versions. Right now, standard are the support and transport class and even with just 1 turret to give it more plating, you can have a tough time surviving the large variety of AV that we are subject to. So please check the stats on how many standard dropships are lost per match vs how many WP / gunner kills those players bring in. I can tell you right now, it is more of a just for fun role then anything. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3854	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:04:00 - [24] - Quote Just replace the regular dropships with logistic dropships with the inbuild CRU. And each lvl of dropship operation decreases the spawn time by 1 sec. Which would mean at lvl5 the spawn time would be reduced from 10 secs down to 5 secs. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 198	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:29:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Could you guys please add it in salvage? Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Zindorak 1.U.P 260	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:43:00 - [26] - Quote What wut. You mean the amarr commando had 2 light weapon slots and a sidarm slot? Pokemon master
Mr Hakyou 68	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:45:00 - [27] - Quote Zindorak wrote: What wut. You mean the amarr commando had 2 light weapon slots and a sidarm slot? The LP one did... hardly anyone knew it. Hotfix Charlie
RECON BY FIRE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 421	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:45:00 - [28] - Quote You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Stuff....?
Mr Hakyou 68	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:46:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. mmm get ready to meet my shotty Hotfix Charlie
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3860	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:50:00 - [30] - Quote I would like to know what the eta is when the hotfix gets deployed. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"

Kalante Schiffer 673	Posted - 2014.08.07 02:55:00 - [31] - Quote that assault buff doe i am a noob hi hey hi hi kamishisoniareari shishimi ROYAL GUARD
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 192	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:19:00 - [32] - Quote dont worry destiny and ps2 are very close . after all theses changes and still no respec umm . i think the range nerf was needed for the hmg but not the heat . we will see . i do worry for ccp . they always nerf and buff at the same time and its never been good for anyone but them . still thdy have yet to lower strafe speed . biggest problem with caly scout . you pretty much killed the heavy suits ONLY weapon with no other hw in game . to soon to tell. . all your going to see is 30% assault 60% scout cause of the strafe speed and scans .10% all others . its your skill system that is off . heavys and scouts should take the longest to get in to . but since you have kill your owen game what do i know lol
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1027	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:29:00 - [33] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Have the scout changes been delayed? Not sure why they aren't on the list. I didn't see it either when I hit the link . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 446	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:30:00 - [34] - Quote Solid changes,and we need more content please.. more maps, sockets and game modes. Not complaining just please keep in mind. Polish a few more things up, add in PVE, Open Market, Open world and you might be able to start marketing this game here in the US. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1027	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:33:00 - [35] - Quote I don't see anything about suit color changes like Commando's for instance and the prototype of Caldari Commando is still that loud blue color . I believed that colors would be addressed in this fix . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1027	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:36:00 - [36] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: dont worry destiny and ps2 are very close . after all theses changes and still no respec umm . Word is wait until after delta for an attempt at a SP refund as they still have work to do in the infantry role , side arms are next ... then after all infantry changes a refund might just be a possibility but we have to come together if we want to make that happen and be serious about that if that's what you want . I will . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:36:00 - [37] - Quote Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Turrets Turrets will now no longer slow their targets movement speed when they hit Large Blaster Turret Dispersion Decay at Max Dispersion has been increased, increasing the rate of accuracy recovery at higher dispersion levels ...Explain dispersion decay, rate of accuracy reduction and etc... Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1028	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:39:00 - [38] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? ** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.**
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3173	Posted - 2014.08.07 03:58:00 - [39] - Quote Hey Logibro, there is one thing that I've yet to hear about the assault buff, does it apply to basic medium frames? They're pretty mediocre as is, but will definitely become obsolete if they don't get at least half of what the assault suits are getting. SP Sinks? Fixed.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 200	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:01:00 - [40] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Hey Logibro, there is one thing that I've yet to hear about the assault buff, does it apply to basic medium frames? They're pretty mediocre as is, but will definitely become obsolete if they don't get at least half of what the assault suits are getting. I hope only assault get it. That would mean basic aur and lp assaults actually mean something. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.

Harpyja Legio DXIV 2155	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:10:00 - [41] - Quote I actually like the turret installation EHP buff. Large missile launchers should become the turret of choice for destroying turret installations. Two seconds to unload clip, hide to reload, then come back out for another two seconds and the turret goes boom. At least no more blaster tanks that can kill infantry and vehicles AND turret installations, all with ease "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 291	Posted - 2014.08.07 04:59:00 - [42] - Quote Didn't see mention of Amarr Logistics and sidearms. Good news indeed!
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS Dark Taboo 502	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:08:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. How can I get some of those suits?
B-F M Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.08.07 05:20:00 - [44] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I don't see anything about suit color changes like Commando's for instance and the prototype of Caldari Commando is still that loud blue color . I believed that colors would be addressed in this fix . ^^ I was about to ask the same thing. We commandos would like to look sharp whilst making things bleed/explode. Otherwise, excellent changes. Looking forward to this release! Ghosts of Dawn // now recruiting.
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 691	Posted - 2014.08.07 06:21:00 - [45] - Quote How long does it take to give the Heavy dropsuits the proper color schemes at ADV and PRO? How has this missed every update since 1.8? Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 691	Posted - 2014.08.07 06:25:00 - [46] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1043	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:02:00 - [47] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: CoochMaster Flex wrote: Well I got **** over. For some reason I'm not happy with the slot layout for the minmatar assault suit. I should be, but I would've been happy with a 4H/3L. Turrets just suck now, all they got is their defense now. I'm glad with the extra sheild they got now, cuz the tankers blow them up instantly for points. Missles range should've never been decreased, I guess all the dropship pilots cried their ass off for that one. I guess I'll just have to adapt to the fresh atmosphere. If you've never ADS'd you have no idea how annoying it is for an unmanned missle turret in enemy red line to track and constantly shot you across most of the map. Missile turrets needed its range reduced for a long time. probably just as annoying as some ADS hovering above you while your in a gunfight on the ground then when you come back in with a forge he flys to the flight deck like a ***. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 43	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:05:00 - [48] - Quote Faction Warfare Loyalty point payouts have been tripled Off-Map Support The warpoints required to call in a warbarge strike have been doubled from 2500 to 5000 [/list] CCP I LOVE YOU! "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4476	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:08:00 - [49] - Quote There are differences between this list and the spreadsheet in feedback discussions. I'm guessing this is the CORRECT list, and there were errors in the spreadsheet. For example: - LAVs only having a 10 second recall time, while the spreadsheet says all vehicles will get 15 seconds. - Sentinel suits have the normal 5 slots at proto, 4 slots at adv, 3 slots at std, while the spreadsheet says 4, 3, 2. - Caldari Assault HP is listed as 275/155, while the spreadsheet says 275/144 (spreadsheet also lists the current Caldari Assault armor value to be 109, when really it is 120) 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
arakon firewolf Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 0	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:13:00 - [50] - Quote im waiting to hear about view points on ads as well as release date i also have been noticing that in ads for the game there is a player market(doesnt exist). 64x64 combat(again doesnt exist) and looking in the market place under light suits we have the infamous pilot suit wich also doesnt exist now im wondering if ccp plans on giving dust the items advertised or just continuing to allow false advertisment to draw new people to a game they plan on shutting down

Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1345	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:21:00 - [51] - Quote I am unhappy about the Swarm Launcher changes. (Using Wiyrkomi SL with Minmatar Commando) it comes even more difficult to down (Assault) Dropships now that the damage is going down at prototype level. Add to that the buff to Dropships and there you go. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
anaboop Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 131	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:28:00 - [52] - Quote To many changes at once, happy to see changes but way to many. Fully sick Anaboop trading card
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1541	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:47:00 - [53] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Particually happy about the sniper scope. Never liked the red dot and I think the circle will be easier to use for DS3 users. The round in the sniper rifle isn't getting any bigger. How will this be helpful? I have serious doubts. See the thread above. Just personal preference is all. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1315	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:48:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Dropsuits All Assault Suits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 1H/3L, 2H/4L, 3H/5L -Caldari: 3H/1L, 4H/2L, 5H/3L -Gallente: 1H/3L, 2H/4L, 3H/5L -Minmatar: 2H/2L, 3H/3L, 4H/4L All Assault Dropsuits have had their base amounts of PG/CPU updated, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 164CPU/33PG, 246CPU/50PG, 369CPU/74PG -Caldari: 178CPU/27PG, 267CPU/41PG, 401CPU/61PG -Gallente: 169CPU/31PG, 254CPU/47PG, 380CPU/70PG -Minmatar: 174CPU/29PG, 261CPU/44PG, 392CPU/65PG All Racial Assault Dropsuit skills now give a 5% reduction in PG/CPU requirements for grenades in addition to their light/sidearm weapon fitting bonus All Sentinel Dropsuits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 0H/3L, 1H/3L, 1H/4L -Caldari: 3H/0L, 3H/1L, 3H/2L -Gallente: 1H/2L, 1H/3L, 2H/3L -Minmatar: 2H/1L, 2H/2L, 3H/2L All Sentinel Dropsuits have had their base amounts of PG/CPU updated, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 134CPU/30PG, 188CPU/42PG, 255CPU/57PG -Caldari: 164CPU/23PG, 230CPU/32PG, 312CPU/44PG -Gallente: 144CPU/28PG, 202CPU/39PG, 274CPU/53PG -Minmatar: 154CPU/26PG, 216CPU/36PG, 293CPU/49PG Does this include BPOs? CCP Logibro wrote: Modules Sidearm and Light Weapon Damage Modifiers have been increased from 3%/4%/5% damage bonus to 4%/6%/8% and 3%/5%/7% respectively. Heavy Weapon Damage Modifiers remain unchanged Off-Map Support The warpoints required to call in a warbarge strike have been doubled from 2500 to 5000 These 2 just AWESOME!!! Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m *Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0*
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 108	Posted - 2014.08.07 08:53:00 - [55] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: Does this include BPOs? Yes Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1315	Posted - 2014.08.07 09:41:00 - [56] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Changed base effective range on all HMGs at all tiers to 52.5m. Assault HMGs still have increased range over basic and burst variants What was the range before? 52m LOL WTF!? this is just crazy.. It needs to be 30m Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m *Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0*
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 258	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:15:00 - [57] - Quote Not to be picky but is there a reason that minmatar and caldari sentinels both have the same slot layout at proto? (i assume it's because when you were ready to put the 4H1L layout that was left it was acknowledged that it didn't work for calsents so it definately wouldn't work for the minsent) that said thanks for the calsent low slot should be very helpful.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 5176	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:21:00 - [58] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

arakon firewolf Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 0	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:55:00 - [59] - Quote arakon firewolf wrote: im waiting to hear about view points on ads as well as release date i also have been noticing that in ads for the game there is a player market(doesnt exist). 64x64 combat(again doesnt exist) and looking in the market place under light suits we have the infamous pilot suit wich also doesnt exist now im wondering if ccp plans on giving dust the items advertised or just continuing to allow false advertisment to draw new people to a game they plan on shutting down
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1346	Posted - 2014.08.07 10:56:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed VERY quick and dirty calculations show that the damage output is still lower than prior to Charlie. Wiyrkomi SL OLD: 6 * 220 = 1320 Add 1 dmg mod: 1320 * 1.05 = 1386 dmg. CHARLIE: 4 * 312 = 1248 Add 1 dmg mod: 1248 * 1.07 = 1335 rounded dmg. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov

Coleman Gray Haus of Triage 1003	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:09:00 - [61] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. whoa what? Officer dropsuits? From salvage? If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1033	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:10:00 - [62] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. True . I'm just happy that they didn't overkill them and make them useless , with that 4 missile change that's going to take some getting use to . Your right about the dropships . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
RECON BY FIRE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 424	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:22:00 - [63] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? ** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed So that makes it balanced!? The fact that I MUST use damage mods to just to get the same damage output as I had before makes everything ok? You've lost your everloving mind. Why are you coddling dropships so hard? Tanks already cant touch them with their pathetic rail range, forges do pretty good against them but require high player skill and loads of luck that red infantry doesn't come ** you while trying to kill the stupid dropship, and swarms cant touch a dropship. Why don't you just make dropships completely invulnerable to damage except when shot by another dropship? We are almost at that state anyway. Stuff....?
Spaceman-Rob Space Dusters 481	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:26:00 - [64] - Quote When are we getting this update? Sooner the better! Any reason why we can't have it tomorrow?
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 396	Posted - 2014.08.07 11:59:00 - [65] - Quote Why did you buff the python? Everyone was telling you not to, other than the pilots that kept whining, but you went and did it anyway. It shouldnt have similar HP to a Sica, that is bad balance and you guys know it.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 659	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:09:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. does that also mean that there may also be a way for some more of us to get them too? instead of just the 'chosen ones' from beta tourney also loving the assault suit changes. bout time the gallente and minmatar got a bit of love cos they were pretty awful Rolling with the punches
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 659	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:10:00 - [67] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. whoa what? Officer dropsuits? From salvage? was a prize to the iwnners of a tournament in beta. 16 players got 25 (poss 50) of a full Balac set, suit, AR, SMG and Sniper rifle i believe as well as 1 Angel Cartel LAV BPO Rolling with the punches
Kain Spero Goonfeet 3735	Posted - 2014.08.07 12:34:00 - [68] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. How can I get some of those suits? By coming in first or second place in the Testers Tourney during closed beta. They were exclusive prizes for the tournament. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 211	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:14:00 - [69] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Why did you buff the python? Everyone was telling you not to, other than the pilots that kept whining, but you went and did it anyway. It shouldnt have similar HP to a Sica, that is bad balance and you guys know it. Fun fact: I rip sicas open like a rail turret vs a sica. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 397	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:21:00 - [70] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Why did you buff the python? Everyone was telling you not to, other than the pilots that kept whining, but you went and did it anyway. It shouldnt have similar HP to a Sica, that is bad balance and you guys know it. Fun fact: I rip sicas open like a rail turret vs a sica. Because it is designed to do that, whats your point?

JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 211	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:27:00 - [71] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Why did you buff the python? Everyone was telling you not to, other than the pilots that kept whining, but you went and did it anyway. It shouldnt have similar HP to a Sica, that is bad balance and you guys know it. Fun fact: I rip sicas open like a rail turret vs a sica. Because it is designed to do that, whats your point? Sicas are super squishy, and the python is even squishier...and rails aren't meant to pwn shields... Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 398	Posted - 2014.08.07 13:32:00 - [72] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Why did you buff the python? Everyone was telling you not to, other than the pilots that kept whining, but you went and did it anyway. It shouldnt have similar HP to a Sica, that is bad balance and you guys know it. Fun fact: I rip sicas open like a rail turret vs a sica. Because it is designed to do that, whats your point? Sicas are super squishy, and the python is even squishier...and rails aren't meant to pwn shields... Rails only deal 10% less damage so if your fit i squishy then its a problem you have by not fitting HP to it. Shield tanks are fairly good at dual tanking if you have the skills. try it out.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 213	Posted - 2014.08.07 14:06:00 - [73] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Why did you buff the python? Everyone was telling you not to, other than the pilots that kept whining, but you went and did it anyway. It shouldnt have similar HP to a Sica, that is bad balance and you guys know it. Fun fact: I rip sicas open like a rail turret vs a sica. Because it is designed to do that, whats your point? Sicas are super squishy, and the python is even squishier...and rails aren't meant to pwn shields... Rails only deal 10% less damage so if your fit i squishy then its a problem you have by not fitting HP to it. Shield tanks are fairly good at dual tanking if you have the skills. try it out. No, because that's not shield tanking then. And small and large rails do bonus damage to shields. Oh and, to get near shield hp of a sica, you need a heavy hp mod. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1172	Posted - 2014.08.07 15:34:00 - [74] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary. Based on a Prototype Caldari Assault, it has an additional low and equipment slot, +50 shields and 500CPU/75PG You made me happy... Alldin Kan has joined the battle!
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 260	Posted - 2014.08.07 15:44:00 - [75] - Quote [/quote] So that makes it balanced!? The fact that I MUST use damage mods to just to get the same damage output as I had before makes everything ok? You've lost your everloving mind. .[/quote] Recon, i've been a sniper since i started playing... Welcome to my world.
Myron Kundera The Generals Anime Empire. 77	Posted - 2014.08.07 15:53:00 - [76] - Quote Solid! Thanks for the assault buff! Me love you long time. "Greed, the forgotten mental disease" "Spray and pray makes my day" "Will use proto gear in self defense"
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1173	Posted - 2014.08.07 16:17:00 - [77] - Quote Are dropsuit skins fixed for Charlie? Alldin Kan has joined the battle!
danie sous DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 19	Posted - 2014.08.07 16:20:00 - [78] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed VERY quick and dirty calculations show that the damage output is still lower than prior to Charlie. Wiyrkomi SL OLD: 6 * 220 = 1320 Add 1 dmg mod: 1320 * 1.05 = 1386 dmg. CHARLIE: 4 * 312 = 1248 Add 1 dmg mod: 1248 * 1.07 = 1335 rounded dmg. And when even the proto SL wasn't really good enough to take out DS in too many cases, the situation will be worse after Charlie. was the bug fixed against Dropships and SLs?
TechMechMeds Techs Laboratory 4021	Posted - 2014.08.07 16:51:00 - [79] - Quote This hotfix IS why iv not been playing. It makes the current dust meh. I want it NOW! . Iv been playing next gen games (except destiny,rubbish for me) and I still want me some dust. Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!. This is unacceptable!.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2627	Posted - 2014.08.07 16:53:00 - [80] - Quote So, when it will be deployed? inb4 Amarr sentinel OPness PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" Uncesored FUCK

lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 973	Posted - 2014.08.07 16:58:00 - [81] - Quote I don't think heavies needed both of those nerfs. They were easy enough to kill before. This is going to destroy the class yet again. I'm torn about the SL changes. I felt this last iteration was actually pretty well balanced. Good tankers and pilots had the ability to out maneuver the swarms while I broadcasted my position to all their supporting berries. Having less rockets means even less dps and less chance that my stupid dumb guide will miss even more potential damage. Guess REs and NKs are the new AV direction. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with the notes. Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.
Judal Wraith Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10	Posted - 2014.08.07 17:02:00 - [82] - Quote Ive been away for a month so I don't know but did the assault scrambler rifle need what I consider a nerf like seriously 1 clip before it overheats most ppl armor tank so why nerf a shield effective weapon especially with the number of heavies I last saw so out of the whole patch thats my only gripe also my amarr assault is finally coming back.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 973	Posted - 2014.08.07 17:11:00 - [83] - Quote Judal Wraith wrote: Ive been away for a month so I don't know but did the assault scrambler rifle need what I consider a nerf like seriously 1 clip before it overheats most ppl armor tank so why nerf a shield effective weapon especially with the number of heavies I last saw so out of the whole patch thats my only gripe also my amarr assault is finally coming back. Well the Amarr Assault gets a bonus to the Scrambler Rifle heat build up. When you got that bonus to level 5, your dps was a little over the top. I think that was the reason for the change. It does effect the lower end users without that bonus, but I feel that makes it a proper snobbery weapon of the Stiff Nosed Race. Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 109	Posted - 2014.08.07 17:22:00 - [84] - Quote Thank you Rattati to have heard us. Changes look good. Good job. I'm very exciting to have it ! Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
Judal Wraith Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10	Posted - 2014.08.07 17:38:00 - [85] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: Ive been away for a month so I don't know but did the assault scrambler rifle need what I consider a nerf like seriously 1 clip before it overheats most ppl armor tank so why nerf a shield effective weapon especially with the number of heavies I last saw so out of the whole patch thats my only gripe also my amarr assault is finally coming back. Well the Amarr Assault gets a bonus to the Scrambler Rifle heat build up. When you got that bonus to level 5, your dps was a little over the top. I think that was the reason for the change. It does effect the lower end users without that bonus, but I feel that makes it a proper snobbery weapon of the Stiff Nosed Race. Thats still doesn't explain why out of all the guns thet chose a shield effective weapon to nerf over every other gun that burns shield and armor like the cr and rr like if I face off against a gallente heavy or assault 1 clip isn't going to do shite if there upping heat then also damage becuase I only have 1 clip to kill someone.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 974	Posted - 2014.08.07 17:48:00 - [86] - Quote Judal Wraith wrote: lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: Ive been away for a month so I don't know but did the assault scrambler rifle need what I consider a nerf like seriously 1 clip before it overheats most ppl armor tank so why nerf a shield effective weapon especially with the number of heavies I last saw so out of the whole patch thats my only gripe also my amarr assault is finally coming back. Well the Amarr Assault gets a bonus to the Scrambler Rifle heat build up. When you got that bonus to level 5, your dps was a little over the top. I think that was the reason for the change. It does effect the lower end users without that bonus, but I feel that makes it a proper snobbery weapon of the Stiff Nosed Race. Thats still doesn't explain why out of all the guns thet chose a shield effective weapon to nerf over every other gun that burns shield and armor like the cr and rr like if I face off against a gallente heavy or assault 1 clip isn't going to do shite if there upping heat then also damage becuase I only have 1 clip to kill someone. Having all 3 of the weapons I say they all have their uses. In my opinion the RR is the most easy to use of them all with the basic RR being effective completely on its own. But I have definitely stripped shields and most armor with a ScR much more quickly than the RR. CR is a little slower on the uptake of the shields but chews through armor like crazy. But like I said, I think it has to do specifically with the DPS you can put out with the maxed skills in comparison. And it is for the Assault version only. That thing was a beast to encounter on the field. Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.
Judal Wraith Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:25:00 - [87] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: Ive been away for a month so I don't know but did the assault scrambler rifle need what I consider a nerf like seriously 1 clip before it overheats most ppl armor tank so why nerf a shield effective weapon especially with the number of heavies I last saw so out of the whole patch thats my only gripe also my amarr assault is finally coming back. Well the Amarr Assault gets a bonus to the Scrambler Rifle heat build up. When you got that bonus to level 5, your dps was a little over the top. I think that was the reason for the change. It does effect the lower end users without that bonus, but I feel that makes it a proper snobbery weapon of the Stiff Nosed Race. Thats still doesn't explain why out of all the guns thet chose a shield effective weapon to nerf over every other gun that burns shield and armor like the cr and rr like if I face off against a gallente heavy or assault 1 clip isn't going to do shite if there upping heat then also damage becuase I only have 1 clip to kill someone. Having all 3 of the weapons I say they all have their uses. In my opinion the RR is the most easy to use of them all with the basic RR being effective completely on its own. But I have definitely stripped shields and most armor with a ScR much more quickly than the RR. CR is a little slower on the uptake of the shields but chews through armor like crazy. But like I said, I think it has to do specifically with the DPS you can put out with the maxed skills in comparison. And it is for the Assault version only. That thing was a beast to encounter on the field. I have proficiency 5 in scrambler i one shot shields easily but what im saying with the way the game is now were armor is tanked mostly why make it harder for scr users to counter what there gun isn't meant to go through I can understand the dps problem but taking a assault weapon and having it only have 1 clip before it overheats is way to much the overheat went from 15 to 25 thats a sizeable jump I deal with armor fine because I play smartly but for others who don't have amarr assault and prof 5 is a kick in the balls becuase I run dcr on my amarr scout also so im going feel the full effect of that overheat there forcing ppl to go into the assault role becuase if I go up against a gal scout with any other rifle he has a advantage just by not having to worry about heat plus hes going to know his enemy can only use 1 clip or constantly Reload And stop Firing for assault gun which is meant for firefights it should be able to keep up with the other rifles
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4015	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:47:00 - [88] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed 1.8.b Proto Swarm: 220 x 6 = 1320 damage 1 Damage mod: 220 x 6 = 1320 + 5% = 1386 2 Damage mod: 220 x 6 = 1320 + 9.35% = 1443.42 3 Damage mod: 220 x 6 = 1320 + 12.2% = 1481.04 1.8.c Proto Swarm: 312 x 4 = 1248 1 Damage mod: 312 x 4 = 1248 + 7% = 1335.36 2 Damage mod: 312 x 4 = 1248 + 13.09% = 1411.36 3 Damage mod: 312 x 4 = 1248 + 17.08% = 1461.16 Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 222	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:49:00 - [89] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? ** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed 1.8.b Proto Swarm: 220 x 6 = 1320 damage 1 Damage mod: 220 x 6 = 1320 + 5% = 1386 2 Damage mod: 220 x 6 = 1320 + 9.35% = 1443.42 3 Damage mod: 220 x 6 = 1320 + 12.2% = 1481.04 1.8.c Proto Swarm: 312 x 4 = 1248 1 Damage mod: 312 x 4 = 1248 + 7% = 1335.36 2 Damage mod: 312 x 4 = 1248 + 13.09% = 1411.36 3 Damage mod: 312 x 4 = 1248 + 17.08% = 1461.16 Good, proto swarms were too good at times vs dropships anyways, because of the fact that python getting thrown back far+just everything=annoying as **. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4015	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:54:00 - [90] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: All Sentinel Dropsuits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Caldari: 3H/0L, 3H/1L, 4H/1L So the Standard Caldari Sentinel is now 100% dependent on Logi support for armor repairs? So much for the independent Sentinel suit! It does not even have an equipment slot for repping NanoHives. The poor guys. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 693	Posted - 2014.08.07 19:01:00 - [91] - Quote I'm digging most of this stuff, great work guys. One question: installation HP has been buffed. Have the warpoints for their destruction been nerfed? Or does the increase in HP balance the risk vs reward for destroying them? Living proof that the Amarr can't do anything without the Caldari
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 981	Posted - 2014.08.07 19:35:00 - [92] - Quote Judal Wraith wrote: lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: Ive been away for a month so I don't know but did the assault scrambler rifle need what I consider a nerf like seriously 1 clip before it overheats most ppl armor tank so why nerf a shield effective weapon especially with the number of heavies I last saw so out of the whole patch thats my only gripe also my amarr assault is finally coming back. Well the Amarr Assault gets a bonus to the Scrambler Rifle heat build up. When you got that bonus to level 5, your dps was a little over the top. I think that was the reason for the change. It does effect the lower end users without that bonus, but I feel that makes it a proper snobbery weapon of the Stiff Nosed Race. Thats still doesn't explain why out of all the guns thet chose a shield effective weapon to nerf over every other gun that burns shield and armor like the cr and rr like if I face off against a gallente heavy or assault 1 clip isn't going to do shite if there upping heat then also damage becuase I only have 1 clip to kill someone. Having all 3 of the weapons I say they all have their uses. In my opinion the RR is the most easy to use of them all with the basic RR being effective completely on its own. But I have definitely stripped shields and most armor with a ScR much more quickly than the RR. CR is a little slower on the uptake of the shields but chews through armor like crazy. But like I said, I think it has to do specifically with the DPS you can put out with the maxed skills in comparison. And it is for the Assault version only. That thing was a beast to encounter on the field. I have proficiency 5 in scrambler i one shot shields easily but what im saying with the way the game is now were armor is tanked mostly why make it harder for scr users to counter what there gun isn't meant to go through I can understand the dps problem but taking a assault weapon and having it only have 1 clip before it overheats is way to much the overheat went from 15 to 25 thats a sizeable jump I deal with armor fine because I play smartly but for others who don't have amarr assault and prof 5 is a kick in the balls becuase I run dcr on my amarr scout also so im going feel the full effect of that overheat there forcing ppl to go into the assault role becuase if I go up against a gal scout with any other rifle he has a advantage just by not having to worry about heat plus hes going to know his enemy can only use 1 clip or constantly Reload And stop Firing for assault gun which is meant for firefights it should be able to keep up with the other rifles and when i last saw they weren't overly used or broken it served its purpose I agree with you there. I can't say I see justification for why they did so, but maybe you're right and its just another reason to drive people into skilling deeply into the assault suits. Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.
Spankdamonke Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2014.08.07 20:03:00 - [93] - Quote Shouldn't the fire interval on the Burst HMG be .010 (6000 rpm)? I believe it was .013 (4600ish rpm) before. The current listed 4,000 rpm would give much lower dps values than those in the spreadsheet from the archives...unless my math is off.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1220	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:00:00 - [94] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: So that makes it balanced!? The fact that I MUST use damage mods to just to get the same damage output as I had before makes everything ok? You've lost your everloving mind. Why are you coddling dropships so hard? Tanks already cant touch them with their pathetic rail range, forges do pretty good against them but require high player skill and loads of luck that red infantry doesn't come **** you while trying to kill the stupid dropship, and swarms cant touch a dropship. Why don't you just make dropships completely invulnerable to damage except when shot by another dropship? We are almost at that state anyway. No they did not lose their minds as A vs B balance has to take into consideration both A's and B's maximum performance People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3794	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:03:00 - [95] - Quote Are all the new sentinels slot layouts wrong? I really am not looking forward to a gal sentinel with a 2/3 layout as it will kill it's rep tank ability. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3794	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:07:00 - [96] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: All Sentinel Dropsuits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Caldari: 3H/0L, 3H/1L, 4H/1L So the Standard Caldari Sentinel is now 100% dependent on Logi support for armor repairs? So much for the independent Sentinel suit! It does not even have an equipment slot for repping NanoHives. The poor guys. Blame your CalBros for stopping that change. God forbid a CalSentinel get to run a Reg and a rep or even a reactive. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 330	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:42:00 - [97] - Quote ADS Isk price will it be adjusted in Charlie .I didn't see it as being adjusted with this fix.
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 330	Posted - 2014.08.07 22:11:00 - [98] - Quote Faction Warfare Loyalty point payouts have been tripled To breath new life in Faction Warfare we need the Faction Store updated Just tripling LP I don't think is enough if we can't buy what we want from our faction. Every Faction Needs a Rep Tool,Drop uplink, Nanohive,Injector, Sorry Amarr Empire forces the Empress can't provide you a Rep Tool because the only Faction Rep Tool is Minmatar. So if you want a Faction Rep Tool you must fight against those you love.
RedBleach LeSanglant Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 650	Posted - 2014.08.07 22:27:00 - [99] - Quote This is great work from the community and CCP team-up, I will be pleased to play with all of these new changes. I will be await the play data to see how these changes impact the game. More importantly how this will affect the logi crew. Seeing that this level of adjustment is possible I eagerly await the day when the Logi Class and respective races can also get their day in the spotlight for the tier adjustments and a re-analysis of their bonuses, equipment, and PG/CPU - I believe in their day of reckoning. The Logi Code. Cross Atu for CPM1 - A logical choice

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 8919	Posted - 2014.08.08 00:19:00 - [100] - Quote Spankdamonke wrote: Shouldn't the fire interval on the Burst HMG be .010 (6000 rpm)? I believe it was .013 (4600ish rpm) before. The current listed 4,000 rpm would give much lower dps values than those in the spreadsheet from the archives...unless my math is off. The 4000RPM figure is factoring in the burst interval. For comparison, the current Burst HMG has an effective RPM of 2500. Actual fire interval is 0.01 as you stated, with a 0.225 burst delay (down from 0.52 on the old burst HMG) CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)


Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 883	Posted - 2014.08.08 00:42:00 - [101] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Are all the new sentinels slot layouts wrong? I really am not looking forward to a gal sentinel with a 2/3 layout as it will kill it's rep tank ability. I feel as if the Amarr and Gal sentinel's slot layouts should be switched for obvious reasons. "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes."
Spankdamonke Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2014.08.08 00:54:00 - [102] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Spankdamonke wrote: Shouldn't the fire interval on the Burst HMG be .010 (6000 rpm)? I believe it was .013 (4600ish rpm) before. The current listed 4,000 rpm would give much lower dps values than those in the spreadsheet from the archives...unless my math is off. The 4000RPM figure is factoring in the burst interval. For comparison, the current Burst HMG has an effective RPM of 2500. Actual fire interval is 0.01 as you stated, with a 0.225 burst delay (down from 0.52 on the old burst HMG) Ah, that makes a bit more sense. Thank you for the clarification!
DarthMcFizzle MOOSE-KNUCKLEz CLAN 71	Posted - 2014.08.08 01:08:00 - [103] - Quote Why have the heavy weapon damage mods remained unaltered? I want to be able to kill these buffed pythons.
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3798	Posted - 2014.08.08 01:39:00 - [104] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Are all the new sentinels slot layouts wrong? I really am not looking forward to a gal sentinel with a 2/3 layout as it will kill it's rep tank ability. I feel as if the Amarr and Gal sentinel's slot layouts should be switched for obvious reasons. They were! XD "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 884	Posted - 2014.08.08 02:02:00 - [105] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Are all the new sentinels slot layouts wrong? I really am not looking forward to a gal sentinel with a 2/3 layout as it will kill it's rep tank ability. I feel as if the Amarr and Gal sentinel's slot layouts should be switched for obvious reasons. They were! XD Wh-wh-whhh Source!? Damn, I'm dense. looooool "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes."
Aeladon Leiko KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 88	Posted - 2014.08.08 02:17:00 - [106] - Quote this is a game changer - i appreciate the time and work that have gone into these changes; and the apparent forethought. i would like to point out that most of us have put as much thought into our suit choices based on previously known information. now that has changed. i don't want to encourage flavor of the month but most of us would have spec'd much different if this was all offered day one. please do something to address this ccp! i suggest a happy medium 1 free full respec deposited into the inventory of every single merc - like an augmentation type thing. then allow the purchasing of respecs via AUR for around 10 bucks. keeps ppl from constantly respecing but allows pilots who legitimately made mistakes to correct them. this has been one of the constant complaints i hear from new players due to the complexity of the game. thanks for listening
Jin no kami Valor Coalition Red Whines. 76	Posted - 2014.08.08 05:51:00 - [107] - Quote Don't hold your breath about ccp adding more content maps,vehicles etc you might die =ƒÆâ=ƒÆâ=ƒÿ+
zero shocker TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 36	Posted - 2014.08.08 07:54:00 - [108] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Spankdamonke wrote: Shouldn't the fire interval on the Burst HMG be .010 (6000 rpm)? I believe it was .013 (4600ish rpm) before. The current listed 4,000 rpm would give much lower dps values than those in the spreadsheet from the archives...unless my math is off. The 4000RPM figure is factoring in the burst interval. For comparison, the current Burst HMG has an effective RPM of 2500. Actual fire interval is 0.01 as you stated, with a 0.225 burst delay (down from 0.52 on the old burst HMG) NERD!!! plz dont ban me
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 341	Posted - 2014.08.08 08:15:00 - [109] - Quote What about separating Ambush OMS from Ambush in filters? Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
BlackStorm SCII United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.08.08 08:34:00 - [110] - Quote My 2nd Thoughts about Notes from Patch C are....i like the Slot Buff for Assaults to try (but i was thinking you overwork the race specific weapons Bonus) ...but with this Slot Ugrade and the light Dmg Mods Upgrade and the "nervs?" of HMG Range and Heating..(or what was the Basic Range before? Is the new Range now more or less?)..Assaults now have a rly good Chance to kill a Heavy in close Combat before the Heavy can kill em...especially when there more then one Enemy...i think Heavies was fine like they was..a Heavy should be like it was..thats the sense of a Heavy to be last line of Defense..on an open Field Map even a pro Heavy already is fish food vs Assaults with Rail or Scrambler..and why the Hell you delete one of the high Slots of Amarr Heavy? Now hes like the Gallente but without Autorep. Im also unlucky with changings for Swarmlaunchers..4 Missiles ok but ..you nerved still the dmg a little bit (1320 to 1248)?..then increase the range a bit !! Nice a Triple Lp Payout but i think a double would be enough..i was ok with the normal Payout..it should be not so easy to get the Lp..thats the reason to play more FW and try to gain higher Loyality Levels. About the Scouts changes i cant say something cause i didnt check it yet. The Warbarge new needed WpS are a bit High i think...3000 is hard enough to gain i think. Random Public Player Squads will have more Problems to get that 5000 WP then pro Player Squads (Corp Pub Stomps). What is the "Balac's" Caldari?(never read that name/version somewhere)

Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11565	Posted - 2014.08.08 09:08:00 - [111] - Quote If you're going to make it impossible for swarms to take down dropships, how about reducing the small missile fire rate bonus so infantry don't instantly die? What's the point of the small blaster anyway when the missile launcher insta kills everything already. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11565	Posted - 2014.08.08 09:11:00 - [112] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Good, proto swarms were too good at times vs dropships anyways, because of the fact that python getting thrown back far+just everything=annoying as ****. Except that's the only thing we can do. We can't actually kill a competent pilot with swarms, you need to tag team it with 3 people and get it from behind and even then it has a chance of escaping. Who the hell thought missiles should be slower than dropships with 1000x the mass? Anyway, them reducing the missile count to 4 means that you also get knocked around less. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
RedPencil Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 65	Posted - 2014.08.08 09:17:00 - [113] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: All Assault Dropsuits have had their base amounts of PG/CPU updated, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 164CPU/33PG, 246CPU/50PG, 369CPU/74PG In Rattati table, Amarr ADV: 49PG ? I hope the table were wrong Beware paper cut M[;..;]M
Chunky Munkey 5108	Posted - 2014.08.08 10:04:00 - [114] - Quote Almost makes me regret quitting. Almost. Good work Rattatouille Destiny won't kill Dust. CCP already did that.
Cenex Langly Dude.Man.Bro 786	Posted - 2014.08.08 11:47:00 - [115] - Quote Turrets will no longer automatically shoot any infantry that move near them. That right there may make it worth just looking at the game again lol. DESTINY 9.9.2014, fyi :) haha. Newb
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 660	Posted - 2014.08.08 11:50:00 - [116] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Good, proto swarms were too good at times vs dropships anyways, because of the fact that python getting thrown back far+just everything=annoying as ****. Except that's the only thing we can do. We can't actually kill a competent pilot with swarms, you need to tag team it with 3 people and get it from behind and even then it has a chance of escaping. Who the hell thought missiles should be slower than dropships with 1000x the mass? Anyway, them reducing the missile count to 4 means that you also get knocked around less. i was in several matches last night against different Python pilots in both OMS and doms and each time the Python went 20+ kills to either 0 or 1, he'd either just fired missiles at the guys swarming/forging and killed 3-4 of them outright with 2-3missiles or would just ab out of range and get repped up. Pythons really didn't need any kind of buff and swarms certainly didn't need any kind of nerf and keepign vehicles in OMS was stupidest decision ever. i just want a small corner of the universe where i'm not gonna have 2 pythons hovering over us spamming missiles down. at least months ago when it was mass driver spam the infantry was easily dealt with Rolling with the punches
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 660	Posted - 2014.08.08 11:53:00 - [117] - Quote Judal Wraith wrote: lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: lee corwood wrote: Judal Wraith wrote: Ive been away for a month so I don't know but did the assault scrambler rifle need what I consider a nerf like seriously 1 clip before it overheats most ppl armor tank so why nerf a shield effective weapon especially with the number of heavies I last saw so out of the whole patch thats my only gripe also my amarr assault is finally coming back. Well the Amarr Assault gets a bonus to the Scrambler Rifle heat build up. When you got that bonus to level 5, your dps was a little over the top. I think that was the reason for the change. It does effect the lower end users without that bonus, but I feel that makes it a proper snobbery weapon of the Stiff Nosed Race. Thats still doesn't explain why out of all the guns thet chose a shield effective weapon to nerf over every other gun that burns shield and armor like the cr and rr like if I face off against a gallente heavy or assault 1 clip isn't going to do shite if there upping heat then also damage becuase I only have 1 clip to kill someone. Having all 3 of the weapons I say they all have their uses. In my opinion the RR is the most easy to use of them all with the basic RR being effective completely on its own. But I have definitely stripped shields and most armor with a ScR much more quickly than the RR. CR is a little slower on the uptake of the shields but chews through armor like crazy. But like I said, I think it has to do specifically with the DPS you can put out with the maxed skills in comparison. And it is for the Assault version only. That thing was a beast to encounter on the field. I have proficiency 5 in scrambler i one shot shields easily but what im saying with the way the game is now were armor is tanked mostly why make it harder for scr users to counter what there gun isn't meant to go through I can understand the dps problem but taking a assault weapon and having it only have 1 clip before it overheats is way to much the overheat went from 15 to 25 thats a sizeable jump I deal with armor fine because I play smartly but for others who don't have amarr assault and prof 5 is a kick in the balls becuase I run dcr on my amarr scout also so im going feel the full effect of that overheat there forcing ppl to go into the assault role becuase if I go up against a gal scout with any other rifle he has a advantage just by not having to worry about heat plus hes going to know his enemy can only use 1 clip or constantly Reload And stop Firing for assault gun which is meant for firefights it should be able to keep up with the other rifles and when i last saw they weren't overly used or broken it served its purpose in all honesty ScR and AScR do far too much damage to armor than what they should do. i've chewed gallente heavies down just as easily as caldari with my Carthum Rolling with the punches
BlackStorm SCII United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.08.08 12:44:00 - [118] - Quote I dont agree with your Meaning that SCR needed to be nerved. And first of all surely not the heating...when you want to nerv it then the dmg....cause when you nerv the heating then you miss shots what maybe decides between kill or get killed (in case of overheat you cant change to sidearm weapon, and in cooldown youre dead in close combat ).
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3836	Posted - 2014.08.08 13:43:00 - [119] - Quote People seem to forget the -20% against armor the Scr & Ascr have. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
Somebuddy ARMYDOGS 0	Posted - 2014.08.08 15:31:00 - [120] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed Okay, so now I have to equip damage mod(s) to keep from loosing my potential damage. Good thing the vehicle I am attacking cannot fight back or call in support... should I not worry about the Heavies jumping out of LAV's anymore???? cause I am going to have to lower what little defense I have.

Judal Wraith Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10	Posted - 2014.08.08 15:38:00 - [121] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: People seem to forget the -20% against armor the Scr & Ascr have. That's what im saying there putting a liability on scr users not everyone runs the proto all the time I use adv most of the time so now if I overheat in a gunfight im fuked even though we have a disadvantage to armor already the scr and ascr was doing its job why not fix the cr and rr who from personal experience seems to go through armor and shields like butter and a hot knife ive used all weapons and the scr is the only rigle were I can feel its disadvantage to armor
Ld Collins molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 164	Posted - 2014.08.08 16:23:00 - [122] - Quote The overheat on small blasters should not have been changed even with the damage increase the small blasters are still pretty weak. A range increase would have been much more appropriate for Ads pilots and Lav drivers. You've given the small blaster more dispersion to help Dropship pilots but then you increase the over heat in a vehicle with stats that increase the fire rate of blasters making them completely useless. You've also given no reason to skill into small blaster reload skills because the overheat lasts longer than reloading. Please change this before you release Charlie its just a terrible idea. Also on Lavs its just a terrible idea you have to rely on acquiring multiple targets rapidly in a stationary position. Just change it please add a bit more range change the heat build up back to 15 everything else is fine.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 274	Posted - 2014.08.08 17:10:00 - [123] - Quote Cool changes. Assaults will be scary once again :]. Soo, CCP. Can we except any SP event? That would help to spec into assault again a little sooner. It would be great. PS. 3x lp is damn good. So at 10lvl standing we will get 3k lp? If soo, then 1 win is eqiual to 600k isks right? (1000-1500lp for proto large turret) Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers 1015	Posted - 2014.08.08 17:19:00 - [124] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary. Based on a Prototype Caldari Assault, it has an additional low and equipment slot, +50 shields and 500CPU/75PG "Regnyum come back, we still love you, see!?!"
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 4927	Posted - 2014.08.08 19:21:00 - [125] - Quote What about the officer weapon's :( Earn 500Mil EVE 21 Day Trial Chat Channel: Vik PC
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3895	Posted - 2014.08.08 19:42:00 - [126] - Quote Somebuddy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed Okay, so now I have to equip damage mod(s) to keep from loosing my potential damage. Good thing the vehicle I am attacking cannot fight back or call in support... should I not worry about the Heavies jumping out of LAV's anymore???? cause I am going to have to lower what little defense I have. Wait you didnt used damage mods before on AV weapons? Man you are a moron. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
DaNizzle4shizle New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 889	Posted - 2014.08.08 19:47:00 - [127] - Quote my awesome swarms have been buffed!!! ;D thats the best thing you have done since i started almost 2 years ago!!! Desire means never quit. -New Age Empire. Director of logistics and recruitment. ,msg me in game. #QQRoman
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 109	Posted - 2014.08.08 20:26:00 - [128] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Cool changes. Assaults will be scary once again :]. Soo, CCP. Can we except any SP event? That would help to spec into assault again a little sooner. It would be great. I hope no You want to have an assault,2 solutions : - skill until 1.8 - run your assault with the actual cap. You didn't want the assault for 1.8, that was an error !! No, I joke (or not haha) The real reason is I'll go on holiday next weak, don't want to miss this lol No, really, I think we'll not have it. It would be so easy for people to change their class because x or y id buffed... I tihnk also, if we have a SPx3, it will be for Hotfix Delta, with Assault bonus changing, logi changes etc... Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8990	Posted - 2014.08.08 21:08:00 - [129] - Quote Is it safe then to assume that Hotfix Charlie is coming this Tuesday? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Fleen Costell'o Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 444	Posted - 2014.08.08 22:00:00 - [130] - Quote A feeling that the developers have farm me two yearsnear CRU DUALSHOCK 4 -¢-â-ç-ê-¦ -+-¦ -¦-ï-¦-¦-¦-é )

Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 193	Posted - 2014.08.08 22:19:00 - [131] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Pretty solid I think. Nice to see assaults get some love. The swarm changes may be a concern but I'll wait to see how they feel. I'm pleased about the installation changes. They should be tougher to kill and be more valuable asserts worth protecting rather than just a hinderance or minor obstacle. Particually happy about the sniper scope. Never liked the red dot and I think the circle will be easier to use for DS3 users. caldari assault only 1 pg more that cost 11pg for shield extender.....im not a caldari just saying French Canadian Scrubs scout
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2176	Posted - 2014.08.08 22:56:00 - [132] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: I am unhappy about the Swarm Launcher changes. (Using Wiyrkomi SL with Minmatar Commando) it comes even more difficult to down (Assault) Dropships now that the damage is going down at prototype level. Add to that the buff to Dropships and there you go. Agreed. PSN: RationalSpark
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3250	Posted - 2014.08.08 23:19:00 - [133] - Quote I think you are going to regret that python buff personally, but I can still say I told you so. As for the rest of it, it's looking pretty good, I'll you know the effects on my game as minmatar for sure. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7092	Posted - 2014.08.09 02:59:00 - [134] - Quote I'm a little confused on who was asking for a python buff in the first place. see you space cowboy...
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 248	Posted - 2014.08.09 07:47:00 - [135] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I'm a little confused on who was asking for a python buff in the first place. 90% of decent python pilots. And I hope hf delta addresses the incubus never loses to python problem we have. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Jin no kami Valor Coalition Red Whines. 76	Posted - 2014.08.09 11:14:00 - [136] - Quote Incubus shouldn't lose to python with missiles imo. Pythons should have another turret it won't happen though that would balance the ads vs ads fight out , and get them to fix the blaster because that turret is useless solo =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÉ¦
lee corwood Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 990	Posted - 2014.08.09 12:25:00 - [137] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: my awesome swarms have been buffed!!! ;D thats the best thing you have done since i started almost 2 years ago!!! I think you're confused... Knights of Ender Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover.
Mordecai Snake Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 62	Posted - 2014.08.09 15:00:00 - [138] - Quote If Nova Knifes will have 50% efficiency against vehicles. I demand the Mass Driver have 100% efficiency.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 663	Posted - 2014.08.09 16:38:00 - [139] - Quote again last night several python pilots in OMS 11-0, 9-0, 13-1, 18-2 this was with AV being used to try take them down. so really why do they need a buff? all they do is take a hit and run like sissy's to recharge while the other one circles round and the recharge time on forge is far too much. i know two extremely talented Forgegunners who use the ishukone assault forge and both them were on the pythons and soon as they took a hit they whizzed off to recharge. flew back and 2 missiles took out both the forges and the logi (myself) before they even had a second shot off. personally my theeory is CCP deliberatly p**sing people off they they quit and they can shut server down on 'good' terms with the remaining playerbase. brought the theory up late last year and lo n behold legion gets announced at this years fanfest. lets face it Oceana server went last month due to 'abuse' i just think it was so unused it was better to just scrap it and save bit cash Rolling with the punches
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 160	Posted - 2014.08.10 07:44:00 - [140] - Quote Since you have basically switched my Gallente layout to the Amarr one, are you guys at least going to do the sensible thing and give me a respec? The only real reason I went with Gallente instead of back to my armarr when they came out was for the 4 low slots. Also on a side note, is the intention to make the Nova knives the new "Kill anything" weapon deliberate or what? D: (they kill my heavy in 2 strikes as it is, if not 1 when I'm packing less plates.) *Also, there there a date in the works for the release of hotfix charlie? G.L.O.R.Y solider, Master of the Gallente Heavy

Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 165	Posted - 2014.08.10 10:22:00 - [141] - Quote Wow, Gallente drop ship is getting screwed out of buff too? Should I also assume the rumors about dropping the price for ADS's is also false? Dude... Just drive a stake through the games heart and get it over with :c G.L.O.R.Y solider, Master of the Gallente Heavy
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 272	Posted - 2014.08.10 11:51:00 - [142] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Wow, Gallente drop ship is getting screwed out of buff too? Should I also assume the rumors about dropping the price for ADS's is also false? Dude... Just drive a stake through the games heart and get it over with :c Yes, because ccp thinks 500k ships are fine. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Jace Silencerwolf Outcasts For Hire 7	Posted - 2014.08.10 15:18:00 - [143] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: mollerz wrote: The PG on a min scout is still not there despite these meager changes. Kincats and Codebreakers and Nova Knifes all got a PG reduction, that should translate directly into your Minmatar fit. I explained the reasoning for not buffing Minmatar Scout PG, as they already have a fair PG compared to the other Scouts. But its not, please look again. A 12PG discrepancy is not fair. Take away some CPU from the minja if you must, but it needs more PG. Minja needs PG to run all of its mods, it doesn't utilize hardly any eWAR but damps. HALF! of its PG goes to kincats if you speed tank. The changes won't influence the inability to run cloak on a minmitar scout. If you are worried about brink tanked minjas, give us a fitting bonus to codebreakers and kincats, similar to how you gave assaults a grenade fitting bonus. I can take a GAL scout and get it faster than a minmitar scout and still have plenty of PG left over to fit a cloak and a primary weapon. Scout M/1-Series HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Sidearm Damage Modifier LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Empty SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives PG: 56/56 EHP: 312 Sprint: 10.38 Notice complete lack of equipment and primary weapon Scout G/1-Series HS: Complex Light Damage Modifier HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Combat Rifle SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives EQ1: Cloak Field PG: 68/68 EHP: 298 Sprint: 10.73 Runs faster, similar eHP, primary weapon, cloak. Has less chance of OHK. no answer for this Rattati? how about this why does minnies has either the same or more pg on most suits than the caldari but scouts?
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1230	Posted - 2014.08.10 15:48:00 - [144] - Quote Judal Wraith wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: People seem to forget the -20% against armor the Scr & Ascr have. That's what im saying there putting a liability on scr users not everyone runs the proto all the time I use adv most of the time so now if I overheat in a gunfight im fuked even though we have a disadvantage to armor already the scr and ascr was doing its job why not fix the cr and rr who from personal experience seems to go through armor and shields like butter and a hot knife ive used all weapons and the scr is the only rigle were I can feel its disadvantage to armor I wonder if you two realize that the Adv ScR does around 1 point more in damage against armor than the Adv RR and the proto ScR does about .5 more damage than the proto RR so that -20% isn't much relatively speaking. Kill Scotty
jace silencerww Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.08.10 15:59:00 - [145] - Quote I hope the new scope works well if it don't please change it back and make it a different color like green or blue just not the white. the big questions is how the shots will hit with it. as in does it only hit what is in the center of the circle or any part of a red berry in it?
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 401	Posted - 2014.08.10 16:24:00 - [146] - Quote Jace Silencerwolf wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: mollerz wrote: The PG on a min scout is still not there despite these meager changes. Kincats and Codebreakers and Nova Knifes all got a PG reduction, that should translate directly into your Minmatar fit. I explained the reasoning for not buffing Minmatar Scout PG, as they already have a fair PG compared to the other Scouts. But its not, please look again. A 12PG discrepancy is not fair. Take away some CPU from the minja if you must, but it needs more PG. Minja needs PG to run all of its mods, it doesn't utilize hardly any eWAR but damps. HALF! of its PG goes to kincats if you speed tank. The changes won't influence the inability to run cloak on a minmitar scout. If you are worried about brink tanked minjas, give us a fitting bonus to codebreakers and kincats, similar to how you gave assaults a grenade fitting bonus. I can take a GAL scout and get it faster than a minmitar scout and still have plenty of PG left over to fit a cloak and a primary weapon. Scout M/1-Series HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Sidearm Damage Modifier LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Empty SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives PG: 56/56 EHP: 312 Sprint: 10.38 Notice complete lack of equipment and primary weapon Scout G/1-Series HS: Complex Light Damage Modifier HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Combat Rifle SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives EQ1: Cloak Field PG: 68/68 EHP: 298 Sprint: 10.73 Runs faster, similar eHP, primary weapon, cloak. Has less chance of OHK. no answer for this Rattati? how about this why does minnies has either the same or more pg on most suits than the caldari but scouts? It does need a PG buff, but you can't shove a load of a proto modules on a suit and complain you can't fit stuff. I mean what do you need a sidearm DMG mod for? You get a bonus to nova knife damage so its a bit pointless. Put another enh. Extender mod instead. Allows you to fit a primary weapon. You could even use ADV knives and still deal more dmg than the gallente with proto.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3105	Posted - 2014.08.10 17:51:00 - [147] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Will players now be able to get them from salvage? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
roblox098 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2014.08.10 18:37:00 - [148] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Turrets Turrets will now no longer slow their targets movement speed when they hit Large Blaster Turret Dispersion Decay at Max Dispersion has been increased, increasing the rate of accuracy recovery at higher dispersion levels Small Blasters now have much smaller dispersion growth, smaller maximum and minimum dispersion, higher dispersion decay and lower dispersion when aiming down sights Increased Small Blaster Heat per Second from 15 to 25 so it will now overheat before end of the clip Increased Small Blaster Base Damage from 38 to 44 Handheld Weapons Increased Heat per Second on Standard/Advanced/Prototype HMGs from 14/13.3/11.9 to 16/15.2/14.4 Rebalanced Burst HMGs. These now fire and overheat much quicker, delivering high damage for short periods of time. Stats are identical to base HMG other than those listed below -Advanced: Damage 13.23, RPM: 4000, Burst Length: 45, Burst Interval: 0.225, Heat per Second: 38 -Prototype: Damage 13.86, RPM: 4000, Burst Length: 45, Burst Interval: 0.225, Heat per Second: 36 Changed base effective range on all HMGs at all tiers to 52.5m. Assault HMGs still have increased range over basic and burst variants Changed Sniper Crosshair from fixed dot to a small open circle similar to the Laser Rifle Nova Knives now have 50% efficacy against vehicles. Nova Knives are still unable to damage installations including turrets Decreased delay between releasing trigger and hitting with Nova Knives from 0.3 and 0.55 seconds to 0.2 and 0.45 seconds Added Aim Adhesion to Nova Knives Increased range from 2m to 2.5m for all Nova Knives Increase damage for standard and advanced knives from 90/150 to 120/160 Changed charge time for all standard knives to 1.2 seconds (from 1.5 and 1 for AUR variants) Increased all Assault Scrambler Rifle's Heat per Second from 15 to 23.5 so they now overheat within a single clip All Swarm Launchers now fire 4 missiles at all tiers Swarm Launcher missile damage now increases per tier. For STD/ADV/PRO, new damage per missile is 260/286/312 from 220/220/220 Increased base reserve ammo for swarm launcher from 6 to 10 Dropsuits Removed extra sidearm slot from Imperial Commando ak.0 Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary. Based on a Prototype Caldari Assault, it has an additional low and equipment slot, +50 shields and 500CPU/75PG All Assault Dropsuits have received additional health. New base values are (Armor/Shield) - Amarr: 315/145, Caldari: 155/275, Gallente: 275/155, Minmatar: 185/200 All Assault Suits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 1H/3L, 2H/4L, 3H/5L -Caldari: 3H/1L, 4H/2L, 5H/3L -Gallente: 1H/3L, 2H/4L, 3H/5L -Minmatar: 2H/2L, 3H/3L, 4H/4L All Assault Dropsuits have had their base amounts of PG/CPU updated, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 164CPU/33PG, 246CPU/50PG, 369CPU/74PG -Caldari: 178CPU/27PG, 267CPU/41PG, 401CPU/61PG -Gallente: 169CPU/31PG, 254CPU/47PG, 380CPU/70PG -Minmatar: 174CPU/29PG, 261CPU/44PG, 392CPU/65PG All Racial Assault Dropsuit skills now give a 5% reduction in PG/CPU requirements for grenades in addition to their light/sidearm weapon fitting bonus All Sentinel Dropsuits have a new slot layout, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 0H/3L, 1H/3L, 1H/4L -Caldari: 3H/0L, 3H/1L, 4H/1L -Gallente: 1H/2L, 1H/3L, 2H/3L -Minmatar: 2H/1L, 2H/2L, 3H/2L All Sentinel Dropsuits have had their base amounts of PG/CPU updated, listed below (STD, ADV, PRO) -Amarr: 134CPU/30PG, 188CPU/42PG, 255CPU/57PG -Caldari: 164CPU/23PG, 230CPU/32PG, 312CPU/44PG -Gallente: 144CPU/28PG, 202CPU/39PG, 274CPU/53PG -Minmatar: 154CPU/26PG, 216CPU/36PG, 293CPU/49PG Racial Scout skill bonuses have been adjusted. Please see this table for more details Modules Reduced PG usage of ADV and PRO Codebreakers from 11/5 to 10/4 Increased Enhanced and Complex Reactive Plating Repair Rates from 1/2 to 2/3 Reduced PG requirements of all Kinetic Catalyzers by 1 Sidearm and Light Weapon Damage Modifiers have been increased from 3%/4%/5% damage bonus to 4%/6%/8% and 3%/5%/7% respectively. Heavy Weapon Damage Modifiers remain unchanged Vehicles Increased Shields for Caldari Dropships by 500 Increased Recall time on Dropships and HAVs to 15, LAVs to 10 from 5 seconds for all vehicles Installations Turrets Armor and Shields have been increased from 750/3150 to 2000/10000 All installations now have passive armor repair. Turrets have 5hp/s, Clone Reanimation Units 20hp/s and Supply Depots have 30hp/s Missile Launcher Installations range has been reduced from 2000m to 250m to match vehicle mounted Large Missile Launchers Turrets will no longer automatically shoot any infantry that move near them. Turret detection range against all vehicles has been reduced to 75m Turrets can now detect targets in any direction All turrets will now lose targets that move out of Line of Sight after 3 seconds Note: Turrets will still return fire on any target that fires upon them (including infantry) Faction Warfare Loyalty point payouts have been tripled Off-Map Support The warpoints required to call in a warbarge strike have been doubled from 2500 to 5000 For more details, please see this thread. When is it relesing May D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N prosper
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 464	Posted - 2014.08.10 18:44:00 - [149] - Quote Are these changes different for the Hotfix Charlie notes in Feedback and Discussion? The Assaults all have 9 slots on the spreadsheet, but here they only have eight :( I miss the old GAM crew :( RESPEC PLEASE After Delta CEO of GODS AMONG MEN Clone Wars forever #Starwars: Battlefront
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 449	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:00:00 - [150] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Will players now be able to get them from salvage? Special events or can we get Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 in salvage? I know some lucky ducks say they already have these but would like to see these some how ending up in my inventory. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!

Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3107	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:45:00 - [151] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Will players now be able to get them from salvage? Special events or can we get Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 in salvage? I know some lucky ducks say they already have these but would like to see these some how ending up in my inventory. Closed beta tourney.. Only Imps got them along with the black ops lav bpo (which was never added to game so we never got) Also why is it only 5/4/2? It's always been that.. It should be 6/5/2. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Jace Silencerwolf Outcasts For Hire 8	Posted - 2014.08.10 22:26:00 - [152] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Jace Silencerwolf wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: mollerz wrote: The PG on a min scout is still not there despite these meager changes. Kincats and Codebreakers and Nova Knifes all got a PG reduction, that should translate directly into your Minmatar fit. I explained the reasoning for not buffing Minmatar Scout PG, as they already have a fair PG compared to the other Scouts. But its not, please look again. A 12PG discrepancy is not fair. Take away some CPU from the minja if you must, but it needs more PG. Minja needs PG to run all of its mods, it doesn't utilize hardly any eWAR but damps. HALF! of its PG goes to kincats if you speed tank. The changes won't influence the inability to run cloak on a minmitar scout. If you are worried about brink tanked minjas, give us a fitting bonus to codebreakers and kincats, similar to how you gave assaults a grenade fitting bonus. I can take a GAL scout and get it faster than a minmitar scout and still have plenty of PG left over to fit a cloak and a primary weapon. Scout M/1-Series HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Sidearm Damage Modifier LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Empty SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives PG: 56/56 EHP: 312 Sprint: 10.38 Notice complete lack of equipment and primary weapon Scout G/1-Series HS: Complex Light Damage Modifier HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Combat Rifle SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives EQ1: Cloak Field PG: 68/68 EHP: 298 Sprint: 10.73 Runs faster, similar eHP, primary weapon, cloak. Has less chance of OHK. no answer for this Rattati? how about this why does minnies has either the same or more pg on most suits than the caldari but scouts? It does need a PG buff, but you can't shove a load of a proto modules on a suit and complain you can't fit stuff. I mean what do you need a sidearm DMG mod for? You get a bonus to nova knife damage so its a bit pointless. Put another enh. Extender mod instead. Allows you to fit a primary weapon. You could even use ADV knives and still deal more dmg than the gallente with proto. lol have you used nova knives? unless you are proto Minnie with at least 3 in prof you don't do much damage. look it up on protofits and try using a proto Minnie see what you come up with.
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 666	Posted - 2014.08.11 00:49:00 - [153] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Will players now be able to get them from salvage? Special events or can we get Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 in salvage? I know some lucky ducks say they already have these but would like to see these some how ending up in my inventory. originally they were a tournament prize in closed beta. i think the guys who won the tournament each got 25 balac sets (suit, AR, SMG and sniper) as well as an Angel Cartel Black Ops LAV BPO i think the changes to the balac suit are to probs try and convince peopel to actually start using them as most just left them in hangars hopign to make a lot of isk when the forever hoped for market cam einto play. would be nice to have an event though for the rest of us to get our grubby lil mitts on some. perhaps one similar to the scout event where if you got 10kills you got a quafe scout suit. make it so every 10 kills using Balacs GAR-21 you earn a Balacs modified Ck.0 at the end of the event? Rolling with the punches
Jace Silencerwolf Outcasts For Hire 8	Posted - 2014.08.11 01:01:00 - [154] - Quote Rattati I thought the nova knives were getting a pg reduction? it is not on the list
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3297	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:35:00 - [155] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Right...but noone other than the Imps and old SI (nearly all have moved on btw) have the suit. > Check RND out here
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3297	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:36:00 - [156] - Quote Which one of the CPM's idea was it to give a bonus to grenade fittings for assault suits???? bet it was IWS > Check RND out here
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3120	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:50:00 - [157] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. Right...but noone other than the Imps and old SI (nearly all have moved on btw) have the suit. I didn't know SI got them too Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Grey Jeans Caught Me With My Pants Down 4	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:53:00 - [158] - Quote Logibro will the swarm changes affect the assault swarm launchers to use only 2 missiles on both targets? "They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had led to this point."
Minmatards B Like Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.11 04:26:00 - [159] - Quote CoochMaster Flex wrote: Well I got ****** over. For some reason I'm not happy with the slot layout for the minmatar assault suit. I should be, but I would've been happy with a 4H/3L. Turrets just suck now, all they got is their defense now. I'm glad with the extra sheild they got now, cuz the tankers blow them up instantly for points. Missles range should've never been decreased, I guess all the dropship pilots cried their ass off for that one. I guess I'll just have to adapt to the fresh atmosphere. ^^^^^ hez write it shood B 5H/5L to compete with da othr suitz since lowr strting HP. the turrets needs to triple there range to do anything. da missle turruts don't need to be tempered with. CR needs a damage buff. SMGs need a ROF buff. All Minmatar suits need an extra high and low slot to compete.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 311	Posted - 2014.08.11 07:43:00 - [160] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: Wow, Gallente drop ship is getting screwed out of buff too? Should I also assume the rumors about dropping the price for ADS's is also false? Dude... Just drive a stake through the games heart and get it over with :c Yes, because ccp thinks 500k ships are fine. 500k is cheap. ADS is advence vehicle. Standard tanks cost 500k. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.

FroO Bg SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 36	Posted - 2014.08.11 09:38:00 - [161] - Quote I actually like the changes. I think that the Swarms are balanced. You can scare away an ADS and keep him from doing anything in the battle, while at the same time, if you team up with any other AV and you syncronize your attacks you can easily destroy the enemy ADS. I have tootsie-rolls and pie, want some?
FroO Bg SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 36	Posted - 2014.08.11 09:40:00 - [162] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: VERY quick and dirty calculations show that the damage output is still lower than prior to Charlie. Wiyrkomi SL OLD: 6 * 220 = 1320 Add 1 dmg mod: 1320 * 1.05 = 1386 dmg. CHARLIE: 4 * 312 = 1248 Add 1 dmg mod: 1248 * 1.07 = 1335 rounded dmg. And when even the proto SL wasn't really good enough to take out DS in too many cases, the situation will be worse after Charlie. And when even the proto SL wasn't really good enough to take out DS in too many cases, the situation will be worse after Charlie.[/quote] I think that it is balanced. I personally use the ADS and have to say that although SLs dont do a hole lot of dmg with one shot, they can actually shoot twice before the ADS pilot knows the AV is even there. So you can do about 2600 dmg before the ADS runs away, and if you have a squad member to help you out and you both shoot at the same time you can defenatly destroy the ADS very easily.[/quote] I have tootsie-rolls and pie, want some?
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 666	Posted - 2014.08.11 13:16:00 - [163] - Quote FroO Bg wrote: Repe Susi wrote: VERY quick and dirty calculations show that the damage output is still lower than prior to Charlie. Wiyrkomi SL OLD: 6 * 220 = 1320 Add 1 dmg mod: 1320 * 1.05 = 1386 dmg. CHARLIE: 4 * 312 = 1248 Add 1 dmg mod: 1248 * 1.07 = 1335 rounded dmg. And when even the proto SL wasn't really good enough to take out DS in too many cases, the situation will be worse after Charlie. And when even the proto SL wasn't really good enough to take out DS in too many cases, the situation will be worse after Charlie. [/quote] in all honesty its not the damage thats really the issue. the main thing is that SL got a huge nerf with both reduced damage and range. the missiles themselves don't really fly quickly or for very long either which allows a DS/ADS just just hit throttle and fly straight up and be out of lock range before the SL gets another lock. i would rather the SL operation skill be an extra 25m lock range per level than reduced lock time or even a combo of both, reduce lock time from 5% per level to 3% and add 25m lock range per level too and increase fligh time of swarms by 50% just so they actually have a chance of catching a target. Rolling with the punches
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 666	Posted - 2014.08.11 13:23:00 - [164] - Quote Also, still no word on when its being deployed? (not logged in yet today to check) Rolling with the punches
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 401	Posted - 2014.08.11 13:27:00 - [165] - Quote lol have you used nova knives? unless you are proto Minnie with at least 3 in prof you don't do much damage. look it up on protofits and try using a proto Minnie see what you come up with. [/quote] Here's what I got: Highs: 2x enhanced shield extenders 1x enhanced damage mod Lows: 1x complex kin cat 1x complex dampener Equipment: ARN-18 cloak field Compact nanohive Weapon slots: Combat rifle Ishukone nova knives Flux grenades. To me that looks good. That's just me though. Its the ADV suit though not the proto.
GRUNT XX Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:23:00 - [166] - Quote I am concerned about the assault dropsuits PG and CPU distribution. I understand the need to differentiate the two stats between the dropsuits but I feel that even though the stats need to vary, that same variation should be balanced. As of the stats in the original post, the Armor based suits have a edge over the shield based dropsuits for fitting. I compared the suits base CPU and PG to the maximum base any one dropsuit could have (so, the Amarr's 369 CPU divided by the max possible which is the Caldari's 401). I then took the percentages that got for each race and added them together and divided by 2 ( for example, the Amarr: 369/401 CPU - 74/74 PG - 92.02% efficiency for CPU and 100% efficiency for PG - 100+92.2= (192.02)/2 = 96.01% ). Doing this with each, I've found that the Amarr and Gallente suits have higher average fitting than the Cadari and Minmatar suits. the percentage differences for each suit are as follows- Amarr: 96.01% Gallente: 94.679% Minmatar: 92.797% Caldari: 91.216%. I understand the need to differentiate the stats and how Amarr has the highest fitting, but I feel that the percentages for the other three races suits should be closer. That 2-3% difference in fitting from where the shields suits are at to where gallente is could mean the difference between running ADV-PRO modules or equipment instead of STD, which could decide close battles or firefights. ( *Please note that these percentages are only slightly different at the absolute maximum, that being the stats with all skills to PG/CPU increase at maximum )

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 8952	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:45:00 - [167] - Quote Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)

Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6543	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:53:00 - [168] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment Probably a good move considering the changes in other areas. No More Excuses
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 401	Posted - 2014.08.11 15:05:00 - [169] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment Thanks for listening to us. :)
jace silencerww Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.08.11 15:26:00 - [170] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: lol have you used nova knives? unless you are proto Minnie with at least 3 in prof you don't do much damage. look it up on protofits and try using a proto Minnie see what you come up with. Here's what I got: Highs: 2x enhanced shield extenders 1x enhanced damage mod Lows: 1x complex kin cat 1x complex dampener Equipment: ARN-18 cloak field Compact nanohive Weapon slots: Combat rifle Ishukone nova knives Flux grenades. To me that looks good. That's just me though. Its the ADV suit though not the proto. I tried it and it works some what but here is that suits problems. total ehp 322, 235 shield 87 armor (with max skills) most light weapons will kill you with 15 shots and scr charge shot is OHK, still gall & caldari can see you (23.63db) if you can even see them with no precision and run you down with that fit (9.35m) sprint. flux grenades you don't need on it. then are not worth the cpu/pg in most cases & the only way they will fit is if you use 1.8 mil sp into combat fitting op (due to ccp not lists the nova knife fitting op or reduction to the pg) . they do help against cald med/hvy suits but the scouts will see you before you can use them. the damage mods only works for one of the weapons. plus 40,000 isk for a suit that you will die 3-5 times (avg) is a lost of ish. please try again though.

Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1242	Posted - 2014.08.11 15:26:00 - [171] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment Good move...with adjustments to several other areas (Swarms and Installations) it's not a think to slow this down a bit. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 666	Posted - 2014.08.11 15:54:00 - [172] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment thankfully a move in the right direction Rolling with the punches
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 402	Posted - 2014.08.11 16:37:00 - [173] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: lol have you used nova knives? unless you are proto Minnie with at least 3 in prof you don't do much damage. look it up on protofits and try using a proto Minnie see what you come up with. Here's what I got: Highs: 2x enhanced shield extenders 1x enhanced damage mod Lows: 1x complex kin cat 1x complex dampener Equipment: ARN-18 cloak field Compact nanohive Weapon slots: Combat rifle Ishukone nova knives Flux grenades. To me that looks good. That's just me though. Its the ADV suit though not the proto. I tried it and it works some what but here is that suits problems. total ehp 322, 235 shield 87 armor (with max skills) most light weapons will kill you with 15 shots and scr charge shot is OHK, still gall & caldari can see you (23.63db) if you can even see them with no precision and run you down with that fit (9.35m) sprint. flux grenades you don't need on it. then are not worth the cpu/pg in most cases & the only way they will fit is if you use 1.8 mil sp into combat fitting op (due to ccp not lists the nova knife fitting op or reduction to the pg) . they do help against cald med/hvy suits but the scouts will see you before you can use them. the damage mods only works for one of the weapons. plus 40,000 isk for a suit that you will die 3-5 times (avg) is a lost of ish. please try again though. It needs a buff, I can't stress that enough but the only 2 suits that can detect that is a precision modded cal scout or a proto gal logo. The suit for what it does is OK but does need a PG buff. Also you can't complain that you will die quickly because you are a scout, you are supposed to be fast and sneaky at the cost of HP. That part is fine it just needs better fitting room.
Syeven Reed G0DS AM0NG MEN 816	Posted - 2014.08.11 17:58:00 - [174] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment Probably a good move considering the changes in other areas. I agree, small steps seem like the right choice in this instance. Word Crimes EvE - 21 Day Buddy Trial
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 470	Posted - 2014.08.11 18:14:00 - [175] - Quote Im am begging you, please evaluate making Codebreakers High-slots for Delta, or something to give the Minmatar Scout some ewar. Just...please...Even with the extra PG and CPU, A Gallente, Caldari, or now Amarr Scout will easily detect me unless I run three complex dampners and a Cloak (That's to avoid a Caldari). I can't speedhack when all my lows are for hiding, and I can't hide if I need to get in close. Speaking from a PC perspective, or even a pub. Enemies stay near points. In order to successfully get a hack and survive, I must either be swift with the hack or kill everyone and then hack. The problem is that I can't do both, because all the slots that make the Minmatar a Minmatar take away from each other. The Caldari can run precision and Range, the Gallente Dampners and Precision, the Amarr Precision, Dampening, or Range as well as speed. The Gallente have enough Low Slots that they can hack as fast as any Minmatar Scout as does the Amarr. The Minmatar Scout however must choose between Speed, Dampening, or Hacking. The Precision takes away from our HP, the very little we possess anyhow. If scout bonuses go to compliment modules, then the Minmatar Scout will have to have Codebreakers moved to high slots, otherwise we are forced to hack and die before we get anywhere close. Other than that tidbit, this Hotfix is amazing. Damn proud of you CCP. Now...about that release date lol... I miss the old GAM crew :( RESPEC PLEASE After Delta CEO of GODS AMONG MEN Clone Wars forever #Starwars: Battlefront
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 138	Posted - 2014.08.11 18:47:00 - [176] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment Is the deployment this week? The Blazing Intellect Machine
jace silencerww Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.08.11 21:44:00 - [177] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: jace silencerww wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: lol have you used nova knives? unless you are proto Minnie with at least 3 in prof you don't do much damage. look it up on protofits and try using a proto Minnie see what you come up with. Here's what I got: Highs: 2x enhanced shield extenders 1x enhanced damage mod Lows: 1x complex kin cat 1x complex dampener Equipment: ARN-18 cloak field Compact nanohive Weapon slots: Combat rifle Ishukone nova knives Flux grenades. To me that looks good. That's just me though. Its the ADV suit though not the proto. I tried it and it works some what but here is that suits problems. total ehp 322, 235 shield 87 armor (with max skills) most light weapons will kill you with 15 shots and scr charge shot is OHK, still gall & caldari can see you (23.63db) if you can even see them with no precision and run you down with that fit (9.35m) sprint. flux grenades you don't need on it. then are not worth the cpu/pg in most cases & the only way they will fit is if you use 1.8 mil sp into combat fitting op (due to ccp not lists the nova knife fitting op or reduction to the pg) . they do help against cald med/hvy suits but the scouts will see you before you can use them. the damage mods only works for one of the weapons. plus 40,000 isk for a suit that you will die 3-5 times (avg) is a lost of ish. please try again though. It needs a buff, I can't stress that enough but the only 2 suits that can detect that is a precision modded cal scout or a proto gal logo. The suit for what it does is OK but does need a PG buff. Also you can't complain that you will die quickly because you are a scout, you are supposed to be fast and sneaky at the cost of HP. That part is fine it just needs better fitting room. btw any scout that runs 2 complex precision can pick you up with the 21.41 db scan. the ehp is fine but speed or stealth is the way you have to run Minnie scouts all I was asking was 2-3 pg more on Minnie scout. so I can run a slight better suit that is still well under cald, gal, and soon to be amarr scouts
jace silencerww Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.08.11 22:28:00 - [178] - Quote Rattati & logibro what happen to the nova knife pg bit????????????????
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 367	Posted - 2014.08.12 05:49:00 - [179] - Quote Somebuddy wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: You still went ahead and nerfed proto swarms AND buffed dropship HP. Seriously? **** you. Did you look at the damage output as you climb the tiers ??? It's not a nerf indeed . I'm going to love it and the Caldari Drop ships needed a shield HP change , that was long over due . A nerf of 72 DMG at PRO is still a nerf. More ammo is nice, but all good pilots just fly out of range before you can use said ammo. dmg mods got buffed Okay, so now I have to equip damage mod(s) to keep from loosing my potential damage. Good thing the vehicle I am attacking cannot fight back or call in support... should I not worry about the Heavies jumping out of LAV's anymore???? cause I am going to have to lower what little defense I have. THIS. When is the instantaneous teleporting in and out of vehicles going to be fixed? Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 367	Posted - 2014.08.12 05:56:00 - [180] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Jace Silencerwolf wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: mollerz wrote: The PG on a min scout is still not there despite these meager changes. Kincats and Codebreakers and Nova Knifes all got a PG reduction, that should translate directly into your Minmatar fit. I explained the reasoning for not buffing Minmatar Scout PG, as they already have a fair PG compared to the other Scouts. But its not, please look again. A 12PG discrepancy is not fair. Take away some CPU from the minja if you must, but it needs more PG. Minja needs PG to run all of its mods, it doesn't utilize hardly any eWAR but damps. HALF! of its PG goes to kincats if you speed tank. The changes won't influence the inability to run cloak on a minmitar scout. If you are worried about brink tanked minjas, give us a fitting bonus to codebreakers and kincats, similar to how you gave assaults a grenade fitting bonus. I can take a GAL scout and get it faster than a minmitar scout and still have plenty of PG left over to fit a cloak and a primary weapon. Scout M/1-Series HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Sidearm Damage Modifier LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Empty SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives PG: 56/56 EHP: 312 Sprint: 10.38 Notice complete lack of equipment and primary weapon Scout G/1-Series HS: Complex Light Damage Modifier HS: Enhanced Shield Extender HS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LS: Complex Kinetic Catalyzer LWS: Combat Rifle SWS: Ishukone Nova Knives EQ1: Cloak Field PG: 68/68 EHP: 298 Sprint: 10.73 Runs faster, similar eHP, primary weapon, cloak. Has less chance of OHK. no answer for this Rattati? how about this why does minnies has either the same or more pg on most suits than the caldari but scouts? It does need a PG buff, but you can't shove a load of a proto modules on a suit and complain you can't fit stuff. I mean what do you need a sidearm DMG mod for? You get a bonus to nova knife damage so its a bit pointless. Put another enh. Extender mod instead. Allows you to fit a primary weapon. You could even use ADV knives and still deal more dmg than the gallente with proto. What is the point of using knives when you are lit up like a Christmas tree? Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.

SAIRAX SIS Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 114	Posted - 2014.08.12 12:21:00 - [181] - Quote user < hfC ? ccp < soon yoroshiku ne !pÇÇpÇÇCute Cat NyaoooonpÇÇGÖ¬
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 112	Posted - 2014.08.12 15:00:00 - [182] - Quote After more than 6ours downtime, I hoped see Hotfix Charlie in Tranquility... But... No... CAN WE HAVE A DATE FOR HOTFIX CHARLIE PLEASE ? THE PATCHNOTE WAS GIVED A WEEK AGO Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 451	Posted - 2014.08.12 15:55:00 - [183] - Quote Amarr scout should get the profile damp bonus and a melee bonus. Caldari should remain untouched and keep precision. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 320	Posted - 2014.08.12 16:18:00 - [184] - Quote Turret installations = more redline rail tanks? Tanks canGÇÖt do anything really as long as the turrets are up. Rail tanks in the redline now have a valid reason to exist. Thanks CCP. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
jace silencerww Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.08.12 17:55:00 - [185] - Quote It does need a PG buff, but you can't shove a load of a proto modules on a suit and complain you can't fit stuff. I mean what do you need a sidearm DMG mod for? You get a bonus to nova knife damage so its a bit pointless. Put another enh. Extender mod instead. Allows you to fit a primary weapon. You could even use ADV knives and still deal more dmg than the gallente with proto. [/quote] What is the point of using knives when you are lit up like a Christmas tree? [/quote] speed is the key to a Minnie with nova knives. here is why-you mostly like can not catch a scout without being seem. however med/hvy suits you can but speed to flank and get behind them and after 1-3 kills to get away while they are trying to see you as you sprint among them to make your get away.
jace silencerww Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.08.12 17:56:00 - [186] - Quote Jace Silencerwolf wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: mollerz wrote: The PG on a min scout is still not there despite these meager changes. Runs faster, similar eHP, primary weapon, cloak. Has less chance of OHK. no answer for this Rattati? how about this why does minnies has either the same or more pg on most suits than the caldari but scouts? It does need a PG buff, but you can't shove a load of a proto modules on a suit and complain you can't fit stuff. I mean what do you need a sidearm DMG mod for? You get a bonus to nova knife damage so its a bit pointless. Put another enh. Extender mod instead. Allows you to fit a primary weapon. You could even use ADV knives and still deal more dmg than the gallente with proto. What is the point of using knives when you are lit up like a Christmas tree? [/quote]
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 76	Posted - 2014.08.12 21:39:00 - [187] - Quote Dropsuit color schemes still on this hotfix yes? "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
ladwar HEARTS OF PHOENIX 2034	Posted - 2014.08.12 22:35:00 - [188] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment Can we a slight change to massive and sudden hp buff to turrets of 5k armor ? Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Zindorak 1.U.P 602	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:25:00 - [189] - Quote How is -5% presicion good? Other than that Charlie looks good Pokemon master
Zindorak 1.U.P 603	Posted - 2014.08.13 03:21:00 - [190] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Small update: We're pulling the increased shield on Caldari Dropships for Hotfix Charlie. Additionally, as many of you would have noticed the cost reduction to Assault Dropships is not present in Hotfix Charlie. Both of these changes are being held back and we'll be re-evaluating them for Hotfix Delta pending data from after Hotfix Charlie's deployment Hmmm i don't like that but the other changes i do like Pokemon master

Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.13 09:26:00 - [191] - Quote Any reason why everyone is so excited about this hotfix ? It looks more like a rollback to before Uprising ....
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1119	Posted - 2014.08.13 10:22:00 - [192] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Are all the new sentinels slot layouts wrong? I really am not looking forward to a gal sentinel with a 2/3 layout as it will kill it's rep tank ability. yeah thats a pretty crap layout for my suit. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
jimmybroon brown 34	Posted - 2014.08.13 11:26:00 - [193] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: nicholas73 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hotfix Notes - Uprising 1.8 Hotfix Charlie Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 now requires Caldari Assault Dropsuit V to operate, and has been made very scary Made my day :) Yea, a 5/4/2 (H/L/E) slot layout with 50 more shields than a normal Caldari Assault, with 500CPU and 75PG will do that. How can us noobs get a piece of this? Can we not add them to the loyalty store as things like this will make a big difference to fw?


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