I have to agree with you. Sometimes I can't even react because I die so fast.

I just want those intense, drawn out battles of attrition over objectives again. Longer TTK made things more strategic when you factored in how you fit your suit or used different fittings to adapt to what your opponents are using. Now, all you need is an automatic weapon and aim-assist to go on a kill streak just by hip firing.

Dude, No.

Break out a calculator and look at the different weapons.

Nothing needs a nerf right now more than the AR.

And 10% to the AR won't do anything noticeable, start at 30% damage and it'll begin to make a difference.

As much as it truly pains me to say it, as much as i fought the AR nerf because i knew they weren't OP. Yes the time is now to nerf the AR right now

Or CCP could just take the easier and more efficient in the long run path and just remove aim assist.

The only reason that AR's are so powerful is because the beautiful weapon of mass destruction that is the gallentean AR + Aim assist + More people than ever using the AR = AR being more OP than all of the other weapons that are also OP.... Mega OP???

Thing is, with the AR you just can't miss unless you are just a complete noob.

this. A million times this

Agreed. Remove 10% buff from every weapon

No.

Not every weapon needs a nerf.

Its not about nerfing weapons, it's about reducing TTK, the same effect could be achieved with a buff to HP I suppose. This is supposed to be "the thinking man's shooter" (I know, what a giggle right?). There are plenty of shooters out there that I could choose to play if I wanted to drop people in a flash and most of them do twitch shooting better than Dust.

Give weapons more recoil, slow down rate of fire, reduce dps accross the board, buff HP and I'm sure there are better ideas from people cleverer than I am that could solve this issue, perhaps a mixture of all of them would do the trick. I almost dont care how it's done, just give me back my Dust 514

The better ideas is to analyze every weapon and apply nerfs selectively.

The AR and Scrambler are among the highest DPS light weapons in the game, by a wide margin.

An across the board DPS reduction will make non-rifle weapons unviable.

No.

Not every weapon needs a nerf.

This game has always been balanced around bad hit detection. Untitl now, it's never been as near perfect as this. We may be looking at a massive re-work in 1.7 and beyond.

Still hopeful, eh? ;)

Me too! :)

Please see this post:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120621&find=unread

Just maybe crazy enough to work...

I like the notion of adjusting the AA, but as a sole solution, here are my concerns with that:

Much of the current issues aren't JUST AA-related. Take the most recent update. TTK went down a little bit more, but AA wasn't adjusted again. Hit-detection has seen upgrades though across several patches (including the most recent one).

Even without AA, the fact that something like AR can be super-accurate when ADS with negligible recoil, dispersion, etc. means it loses next to no DPS when being operated properly - and that DPS is very very high. Adjusting AA would might keep newbie players from massacring people with MLT weapons, but skilled users would still be able to drop people very easily just because of the changes in hit-detection. This is one of the things that's more true of the AR and Ass-Scrambler than many of the other weapons. The output on the SMG might be nerfed sufficiently with just an AA adjustment, I'm not sure.

Anyhow, the thrust of my point is that it is a confluence of issues causing TTK issues, which is why I'd be hesitant to endorse a thread that sums it up as "AR problems" or "AA problems." I think it's a combination of hit-detection, AA, and weapon qualities/traits (like recoil/dispersion/etc.) that aren't balanced against the former that are causing the current state of affairs. It's running into certain weapons that are overly influenced by these problems that makes it evident.

Almost any weapon can benefit from the AA of course, and I think that's why it became such a poster-child for gun-game issues after 1.4. However, hit detection and weapon traits (like RoF, etc.) play a larger role in making weapons like the AR so godly.