DUST Search - The Learning Coalition (Attention, all new players!!!)

Naedeus wrote:

Artificer Ghost wrote:

My answer: Seriously, it's all practice. On a good match where I'm running dedicated Logistics and actually being good at the game and not messing around (90% of matches I play with you guys are just me literally struggling to have fun in the game), I make 2k+ WP.

It all just comes from lots of practice, but a couple things help. And by help, I mean make OR break the game:
-Don't be a newbie Scout.
-Carry a GEK
-Be a Proto-Heavy
-Stack Complex Damage Mods
-Run with a squad of 12 via q-sincing
-Spam equipment so much it lags out the entire enemy team

And most of all: Good luck!

Is this what you teach new players? Because what I'm getting out of it is this:

Telling them not to play a specific class, rather than letting them experiment.
Forcing them into the mindset that "Gank-Tanking" your dropsuit is a good idea.
Forcing them to use one specific primary weapon, rather than promoting different types.
You're openly supporting, and suggesting the use of equipment spam, to cause the enemy team to lag out of a match.

The latter being an exploit of game mechanics which creates an unfair environment, and can cause players to leave DUST 514 completely due to multiple bad experiences. You claim to be helping new players, and yet you're teaching them that exploiting glitches and bugs are OK.

This disappoints me, and as such, you've lost my respect.

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Khal V'Rani 360	Posted - 2013.11.10 03:19:00 - [151] - Quote Arti. Man. Your volunteering me to talk to people? You really want me talking to people about you? Fine. You'll be known for posters of MLP and glittery rainbows and sparkly stars. Oh, and an impeccable Christopher Walken impression. You're welcome. I'm a scrub.
CharCharOdell 1495	Posted - 2013.11.10 03:58:00 - [152] - Quote Khal V'Rani wrote: Arti. Man. Your volunteering me to talk to people? You really want me talking to people about you? Fine. You'll be known for posters of MLP and glittery rainbows and sparkly stars. Oh, and an impeccable Christopher Walken impression. You're welcome. I'm already #1 brony in New Eden. What else you gonna do? Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Khal V'Rani 360	Posted - 2013.11.10 04:08:00 - [153] - Quote Hmmm... Maybe talk about his Square Peg record collection? I'm a scrub.
CharCharOdell 1495	Posted - 2013.11.10 04:18:00 - [154] - Quote Khal V'Rani wrote: Hmmm... Maybe talk about his Square Pegs VHS collection? Are you gonna keep attempting to troll or will you move along because I assure you that anything you can troll, I'll make you look like an idiot for trolling. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Khal V'Rani 360	Posted - 2013.11.10 04:48:00 - [155] - Quote I can make myself look like an idiot without any assistance. No need for you to go out of your way. And I'm not trolling Arti maliciously. Just trying to lighten the mood man. I'm a scrub.
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1181	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:20:00 - [156] - Quote Don't leave out the part where I'm adorable. When did I make a Christopher Walken impression? I don't remember. xD ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Ironyimation Inception R 0 N 1 N 10	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:12:00 - [157] - Quote The butt hurt and lurking is strong in this thread. I needed help because I'm a scout and at the end of the match I have 4 times the damage given than received and I still have a **** K/D with low warpoints. Hell I spec'd into Caladari assault when I first started and I can go into an ambush with a full squad using prototype gear. Also Art is my friend and we constantly ridicule each other in the Learning Coalition chat. A side note for Learning Coalition Me-----------------------------------------500m------------------------------>Your head I has Thale :>
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1181	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:37:00 - [158] - Quote Irony: Art, you're a scrub. Me: Nu, Irony why!? To the member of the Learning Coalition and to all who want a good read, look for my post on Perfect Imbalance in General Discussion! Link will be posted soon. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Lorhak Gannarsein 571	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:26:00 - [159] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: BSoTT's money actually does sit in it's wallet, because no one really asks me for grants. Although, I sound like the ultra-pimp whenever I say 'How much did it cost because I can pay for that". I like Farmville. damn I need to start asking you for money! also, you listed Fox three times in that 'talking to people' thing. Ghost wrote:* To the member of the Learning Coalition and to all who want a good read, look for my post on Perfect Imbalance in General Discussion! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120531&find=unread I WAS PROMISED A GOOD READ! Too busy clicking cookies to play DUST...
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1553	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:18:00 - [160] - Quote Naedeus wrote: Artificer Ghost wrote: My answer: Seriously, it's all practice. On a good match where I'm running dedicated Logistics and actually being good at the game and not messing around (90% of matches I play with you guys are just me literally struggling to have fun in the game), I make 2k+ WP. It all just comes from lots of practice, but a couple things help. And by help, I mean make OR break the game: -Don't be a newbie Scout. -Carry a GEK -Be a Proto-Heavy -Stack Complex Damage Mods -Run with a squad of 12 via q-sincing -Spam equipment so much it lags out the entire enemy team And most of all: Good luck! Is this what you teach new players? Because what I'm getting out of it is this: Telling them not to play a specific class, rather than letting them experiment. Forcing them into the mindset that "Gank-Tanking" your dropsuit is a good idea. Forcing them to use one specific primary weapon, rather than promoting different types. You're openly supporting, and suggesting the use of equipment spam, to cause the enemy team to lag out of a match. The latter being an exploit of game mechanics which creates an unfair environment, and can cause players to leave DUST 514 completely due to multiple bad experiences. You claim to be helping new players, and yet you're teaching them that exploiting glitches and bugs are OK. This disappoints me, and as such, you've lost my respect. I believe Naedeus, that you are responding with a great degree of seriousness and self-righteousness to a completely sarcastic post.

Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1190	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:51:00 - [161] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Also, you listed Fox three times in that 'talking to people' thing. Yea, he's the target of most of my rage (And I'm sorry for that, Gaden). I can't count how many times I end up screaming at him because of the stupid GEKs. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4831	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:50:00 - [162] - Quote Seems like this thread could use a little cooling down. Also, shout-out to Artificer Ghost who was one of the few competent blueberries on my team earlier. I'd like to add that I'm interested in helping out a little more here but I'm not quite sure how to. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1190	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:59:00 - [163] - Quote Shoutout to me? I think you did just a little bit better. :D But yea, the blueberries weren't great though. I don't mind, because I got rep points. :) Honestly, if you want to help out, all you need to do is log on, and if anyone needs help, get them a squad and tell them everything you know about a certain playstyle. Make sure you tell them how well it plays in this build particularly, because someone may want to, I don't know, speed tank, and get murdered doing so. Don't get me wrong, speed tanking is good if you're skilled way into it. But you need to be careful with the gentle newberry, because showing him something UP will make him run in fear. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
CharCharOdell 1511	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:45:00 - [164] - Quote I tell most newberries to go gallente medium with at and locus grenadea Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1195	Posted - 2013.11.11 01:35:00 - [165] - Quote Right, Gallente medium is the best. No idea why. Was never told. I never had "the talk". Earlier, I was talking to a student about skills, and he said "Yea, I got Amarr Medium..." and it cut out a bit but I could've sworn I heard Lillica's name in there. So I said "Did Lillica seriously tell you to go Amarr? The little.... Dalek...". Thankfully, no. It's not that I have any issues with that, but I'd rather not get Lillica's die-hard Amarrian ways get involved in the teaching of people. See, I get the best of both worlds, because I love the Gallente AND the Gallente Logistics is the best. <3 I tell people to get Gallente Logistics because: 53% - I'm a Gallente die-hard purist. 45% - It has the most utility as a Logistics. 7% - It's super sexy. Look at dem curves. EDIT: Also, AR*. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Khal V'Rani 361	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:23:00 - [166] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Don't leave out the part where I'm adorable. When did I make a Christopher Walken impression? I don't remember. xD Ah, I didn't add that becuse I thought it was a given. Also, humble... yeah. Humble. :p I'm a scrub.
Jillic Immortal Guides 0	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:28:00 - [167] - Quote Master Ghost, I seem to keep missing you online and you seem to keep ignoring my emails, so I decided to post this in the LC thread on the forums in hope of getting your response. I have finally gotten Gallente Proto Logi suits like you told me to and I just wanted to clarify, you told me to put a Duvolle on it and to stack damage mods and armor plates, right? Your Neglected Padawan, Jillic P.S. Can we please stop the Star Wars Master/Padawan roleplay now? It's starting to make me uncomfortable, especially when you start talking about your 'lightsaber' in the Christopher Walken voice. Caldari Girls Do It Better.
Ironyimation Inception R 0 N 1 N 10	Posted - 2013.11.12 00:57:00 - [168] - Quote Jillic wrote: Master Ghost, I seem to keep missing you online and you seem to keep ignoring my emails, so I decided to post this in the LC thread on the forums in hope of getting your response. I have finally gotten Gallente Proto Logi suits like you told me to and I just wanted to clarify, you told me to put a Duvolle on it and to stack damage mods and armor plates, right? Your Neglected Padawan, Jillic P.S. Can we please stop the Star Wars Master/Padawan roleplay now? It's starting to make me uncomfortable, especially when you start talking about your 'lightsaber' in the Christopher Walken voice. Arty, what are you doing behind our backs? Is this why you are always to tired?
CharCharOdell 1525	Posted - 2013.11.12 01:52:00 - [169] - Quote Jillic wrote: Master Ghost, I seem to keep missing you online and you seem to keep ignoring my emails, so I decided to post this in the LC thread on the forums in hope of getting your response. I have finally gotten Gallente Proto Logi suits like you told me to and I just wanted to clarify, you told me to put a Duvolle on it and to stack damage mods and armor plates, right? Your Neglected Padawan, Jillic P.S. Can we please stop the Star Wars Master/Padawan roleplay now? It's starting to make me uncomfortable, especially when you start talking about your 'lightsaber' in the Christopher Walken voice. yes do that. but tbh, ttk is so low now that proto and adv suits are hardly different. you'd be better of getting your core skills maxed out,rather than wasting it on a proto suit that will just get killed in less than a second by a duvoll.. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1199	Posted - 2013.11.12 02:33:00 - [170] - Quote @Jillic, nice try at another flame war! :D Also, I will never stop. O.O @Irony, the above is SORT OF the reason I'm always tired, but part of it is that I'm secretly... Sleepy Shadow. That's right, I became a female. I haz all teh parts and everything. Just kidding, no I'm tired all the time because: 1) I actually sleep. Unlike Charlotte. Or Lillica. Or anyone else on this game besides Khal. 2) Sometimes I sound tired when it's actually me being frustrated. 99% of my sighs in-game are just me being pissed at CCP. 3) You know when you first wake up and your voice is all gravelly for a while? Yea, that's just my normal voice. In fact, I try to sound as clear as possible while on comms. So I sound tired anyways. :P Warning: I'm not actually a female. I wish. I did a check this morning. Was pretty darn disappointed. :( Warning To People That I've Never Squadded Up With: I always sound tired apperently, I'm not really good at the game, and I'm always angry. Seriously, my first character, I was all happy and it was a great game. Now, I just kind of sit back and get pissed. Seriously. I'm an angry mofo. I just mask it behind my thin Scout suit. Can I get a like? I'll finally get to 1,200! :D ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition

CharCharOdell 1525	Posted - 2013.11.12 02:46:00 - [171] - Quote FOX AND ARTY!!!! Get on our google groups page right now. I have the best possible news....or speak to me in game asap. Either or both is fine. But seriously, this is awesome! :D Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1200	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:00:00 - [172] - Quote I haven't gotten an email. Did it stop sending me notifications? Ok though. EDIT: It DID stop sending me notifications. Why, gmail? WHY?!?! Oh well. Continuing conversation there. So everyone doesn't feel left out, we're talking about how I keep sounding this marvelous over comms. Secret: Lots and lots of drugs. ;D ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
CharCharOdell 1528	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:37:00 - [173] - Quote Suggestions for very low SP fittings. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1200	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:23:00 - [174] - Quote Alright everyone, serious time, I have an important announcement to make, to everyone inside AND outside of the Learning Coalition. As of 11-12-13, the Learning Coalition has obtained 2 Planetary Conquest districts to use in mock PC battles so we can provide Dropship Piloting lessons, infantry training sessions, and all that good stuff. Later in this post, I'll be talking about some other stuff being planned, but for now, I just wanted to say that, and I know this is super-cheesy, this would literally not be possible without everyone that has supported the Learning Coalition from Day 1 and forward. I love you guys, you're great, and I hope to personally thank you guys in-game via comms, while I'm teaching you guys to fly or how to use a Plasma Cannon. I'll get more information out soon, and when I do, I'll link you to this very post, where you can see how this will work, what events will take place, and all that stuff. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1202	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:45:00 - [175] - Quote Updated my information page to include which districts belong to the Learning Coalition! ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3258	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:40:00 - [176] - Quote You can use Oceania for training too, although it wont be anything like PC, its still a good place to train new players in a time that suits them if they cant get into the PC battles. Since its empty, and there isn't a lot going on, the battles can be used for teaching newer players the maps (Knowing the maps, the flanking points, and the super secret areas is incredibly useful for a Scout), or teaching DS pilots how to fly. Might even be able to Q-Sync players on opposite teams, so they can fight and learn from each other. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1204	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:30:00 - [177] - Quote Every time I go to the Oceania servers, I get a full game. :P ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1204	Posted - 2013.11.14 13:10:00 - [178] - Quote Bumpity bump. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Ironyimation Inception R 0 N 1 N 11	Posted - 2013.11.14 13:39:00 - [179] - Quote http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/Shotguns?file=GA_ShotGun940.jpg ~Pewpew
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1204	Posted - 2013.11.14 17:51:00 - [180] - Quote Shoutout to CRG-3. :P ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition



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