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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I would like to offer my assistance as well.
I've been lurking in the channel for a bit, though it hasn't been hugely active at my times. Anyone who wants to join the channel and provide assistance or advice to new players is quite welcome to do so. I am working hard to recruit new players. I instruct all my Corp members to join Learning Coalition chat, and I have directed several new players who had Corps already to join Learning Coalition chat as well. So the number of new players in the channel looking for help has been going up.
I have only opened my recruitment efforts to all time zones recently. I wanted to make sure there would be resources in place for students that were on when I was not. Now I am confident that there are experienced players in the Learning Coalition chat channel the majority of the time, so I have opened up my recruitment efforts.
If there is not a lot of activity in the channel when you are on, then I probably need your to help cover that time slot. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1171
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:11:00 -
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virgindestroyer7 wrote:aww i never knew about this. count me in. Are you a Student (new player) or Instructor (Experienced player)? Both are welcome. I am just trying to keep track of how many instructors/mentors/guides we have, what times they are on, and what their specialties are.
So far we have had good success linking aspiring players up with vets who can answer their questions and set them on the right track. If you are new, just let it be known in the Learning Coalition chat what you are hoping to become, and we will do our best to find you a Vet to mentor you on that path.
____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1171
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:12:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:VD is an old salt dog. I approve. Awesome, and according to a post search he seems to play Logi. We could definitely use an expert Logi in Learning Coalition chat. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1173
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Posted - 2013.10.04 17:47:00 -
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virgindestroyer7 wrote: i am a logi, but i go positive on KDR.
Wait, I just realized I have squadded with you before on my Alt, Crash Gaden, back when I was still with DUST University. It was a blast. Glad to have you onboard. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1196
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Posted - 2013.10.09 14:35:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:VD is an old salt dog. I approve. Awesome, and according to a post search he seems to play Logi. We could definitely use an expert Logi in Learning Coalition chat. I'm sorry, do I no longer classify as expert Logi? Nonono, it's fine. I see how it is. But next time you need reps. I'm not supplying. I'm not supplying FOR REELZIES. You are always trying to survive as a Scout or proving the Commando suit is better than people think. I tend to forget that you specialise in Logi. Besides, I would be happier when we have at least 3 experts in each role in the Learning Coalition chat. Especially if they can cover different time slots. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1196
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Posted - 2013.10.09 14:39:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote: New Eden can thank the Mango for brining us all together.
Yes, the Learning Coalition would not be what it is today without the Mango. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1196
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Posted - 2013.10.09 14:47:00 -
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I would like to officially announce that R 0 N 1 N has joined Immortal Guides and BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades as Corporate members of the Learning Coalition. R 0 N 1 N specializes in training Scouts. These three Corporations, along with the Mango Group, form the backbone of the Learning Coalition, but what has really made us successful is all the Instructors and Mentors from other Corporations that have become individual members of the Learning Coalition to help guide new players on their path to greatness. I thank you all! |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1258
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Posted - 2013.10.12 13:13:00 -
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We need more Instructors and Mentors.
The Learning Coalition started with a bunch of experienced players who want to help new players. We had plenty of Instructors, but no students. So I started recruiting new players to Immortal Guides and getting them the join the Learning Coalition chat channel so these Instructors would have students to teach.
Now my recruiting of new players is starting to take off, and we will soon need more Instructors and Mentors to meet the demand.
Instructors: People who have mastered a particular role and can act as a subject matter expert to give advice and guidance to new players who are thinking about specializing in that role.
Mentors: Experienced players that can run squads and act as role models for new players. They should be able to answer basic questions about the game, such as where to put the first few million skill points, how to make a fitting work, and how to use equipment. When a mentor identifies what role a student is interested in, the mentor should try to arrange to get the student in touch with an Instructor in that role.
Ideally I would like to see at least two experienced players (Mentors) in each training squad. I would also like the Learning Coalition to have at least 3 subject matter experts (Instructors) for each role, preferably covering different time zones.
To take part, just join the Learning Coalition chat channel and start squading up with new players when you have the time and energy to do so. It would help if you posted here that you are doing so, and what you specialize in, as it helps us to be able to tell the Mentors from the Students. We do not require you to leave your Corp, although we have openings if you want to. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1298
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Posted - 2013.10.16 10:33:00 -
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Immortal Guides just recruited itGÇÖs 50th student. They should all be in the Learning Coalition chat channel, though obviously not all at the same time, and most of them have been playing for less than a Month. If you want to help new players, Learning Coalition chat is where you will find them.
____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1339
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:49:00 -
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I had the bright idea of having Renier Gaden, CEO of Immortal Guides, buy a Freighter and become a deep space trucker whey I was not actively recruiting. I have been watching too many Iceroad Trucker episodes, and I have always thought the Caldari Freighter was a cool looking ship. Unfortunately after doing just one courier contract some Corp said GÇ£oh, shiny!GÇ¥ and declared war on Immortal Guides, which means auto-piloting around the galaxy in a shuttle will not be an acceptable risk until the War is over.
This will effect my recruitment effectiveness a bit as I will have to fly manually, which is more subject to real life time restraints. I expect if they donGÇÖt see my Freighter the Corp that War DecGÇÖs us wonGÇÖt bother renewing the War Dec next week.
I guess if I want to be a deep space trucker I better do it on my Alt in an NPC corp.
Anyway, last I checked Immortal Guides had 58 new players. That is a count of players rather than characters as several members have alts in the Corp. Of those 58, only 1 has not logged on in more than a month. I have also gotten several new players to join the Learning Coalition without joining my Corp.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1443
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Posted - 2013.10.29 12:58:00 -
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A few things of note today:
As of this morning Immortal Guides had 70 student members, almost all of which should be in the Learning Coalition chat channel. Actually, that is about to drop to 69 (See below).
It is a momentous day for Immortal Guides. One of my top students is about to graduate! Carbonized is preparing to accept an invitation to join Molon Labe with his Logistics character.
He currently plans to leave at least one of his other characters in Immortal Guides. I have been so impressed with his progress and positive attitude that I have offered him a full Director position in my Corp.
Carbonized is definitely a learning Coalition success story. Shortly after joining up he mentioned to me that he had a tank character, but was not even sure how a tank should be fitted. I worked with one of the Learning Coalition mentors, Summer Sault, to get Carbonized hooked up with Lorhak Gannarsei, a former DUST University tank instructor. (Charlotte 0GÇÖDell covers a different time zone.) Lorhak Gannarsei, currently of Southern Legion, took Carbonized under his wing and taught him to be a fairly competent new Tanker.
Meanwhile Carbonized was also working on learning Logistics and Scout on his other two characters. Working with several Learning Coalition Mentors and Instructors, including an Instructor from BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades, he developed his skills enough to earn a standing invitation to join Molon Labe.
Unfortunately not all my Students develop so quickly. Trying to teach members that donGÇÖt have a mic, arenGÇÖt really interested in squadding up, and donGÇÖt read the forum, can be a real challenge! The one thing I have done which seems to have some success is to send sections of my guides out each day as Corp mail, so that each day when my Students log in, they have something interesting and educational sitting in their inbox. Shortly I will be sending our the 1.6 patch notes in a Corp mail.
If anyone has any other ideas of how to provide training to my less communicative students I am open to suggestions. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1452
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:28:00 -
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Have you guys seen this?
Dachande Anasazi is checking out each of the training Corporations and writing consumer reports on them.
He already assessed DUST University. Seems accurate and fair from what I know personally.
Now he is assessing BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades.
Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1478
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:55:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:You're going to take it from D-Uni hopefully... While the Learning Coalition may have a different philosophy and be more open then DUST University, we are both training organizations working toward the same goal. It would be counterproductive to take districts from DUST University. I would not want to deprive their students of training opportunities.
If you donGÇÖt like how DUST University operates, then try to help the Learning Coalition be successful, as we are the training alternative. While DUST University is very inward facing and focussed on themselves, the Learning Coalition is about as open and transparent as you can get. We canGÇÖt even get our act together to discuss things privately, so half the time we end up having Coalition Policy debates on public forums.
____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1499
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:04:00 -
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Just a note that Ironyimation Inception has moved from basic training with Immortal Guides to advanced training in the way of the Scout with R 0 N 1 N. The program is working as intended.
Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1504
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:12:00 -
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Immortal Guides just hit 100 students, and the only members to leave Immortal Guides this week were through legitimate graduation. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1553
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Posted - 2013.11.10 20:18:00 -
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Naedeus wrote:Artificer Ghost wrote:
My answer: Seriously, it's all practice. On a good match where I'm running dedicated Logistics and actually being good at the game and not messing around (90% of matches I play with you guys are just me literally struggling to have fun in the game), I make 2k+ WP.
It all just comes from lots of practice, but a couple things help. And by help, I mean make OR break the game: -Don't be a newbie Scout. -Carry a GEK -Be a Proto-Heavy -Stack Complex Damage Mods -Run with a squad of 12 via q-sincing -Spam equipment so much it lags out the entire enemy team
And most of all: Good luck!
Is this what you teach new players? Because what I'm getting out of it is this:
- Telling them not to play a specific class, rather than letting them experiment.
- Forcing them into the mindset that "Gank-Tanking" your dropsuit is a good idea.
- Forcing them to use one specific primary weapon, rather than promoting different types.
- You're openly supporting, and suggesting the use of equipment spam, to cause the enemy team to lag out of a match.
The latter being an exploit of game mechanics which creates an unfair environment, and can cause players to leave DUST 514 completely due to multiple bad experiences. You claim to be helping new players, and yet you're teaching them that exploiting glitches and bugs are OK. This disappoints me, and as such, you've lost my respect. I believe Naedeus, that you are responding with a great degree of seriousness and self-righteousness to a completely sarcastic post. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1563
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:05:00 -
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The first battle will be for Learning Coalition members only, and we will be focussing on low mortality activities such as Dropship training. (We can spare a few clones for pilot error.) We need to allow the clone count in the Bojo district to grow so we have a nice buffer in both before we begin public classes and tournaments.
We have great plans, but are still in the early stages of figuring out how all this works. There are a lot of logistical stuff we are working on. We do hope that the second battle can be some sort of public tournament, if we can get our act together in time. Sort of a grand opening of the Learning Coalition Training Districts.
Anticipated uses for the Learning Coalition Training Districts:
Public Events:
- Dropship Flight School - LAV races (with a an ISK prize to the winner) - Epic Dog-fight. Squads of 3, each squad gets a dropship. (Prize for the surviving team.) - Operator Skill Tank Tournament (uniform tank fit) (Prize for the survivor.) - Free for all Tank Tournament (Operators use their own fit) (Prize for the survivor.) - Melee Tournament (The Great Brawl) Last Merc standing gets a prize.
Internal Training Matches: - Dropship Flight School - Live fire training exercises. (It would be nice if experienced PC FCGÇÖs and Squad leaders could help lead our students against each other for a more authentic experience.) - Melee tournaments (to practice melee) - LAV races to practice driving. - Tank training (Tank vs Tank fights, disengage at 1/3 armour to save ISK) Without AV, or with AV used by a trainer to teach avoidance techniques. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1563
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:27:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:if you need more youtubers I can pop in. Judge, I'm surprised you haven't joined a teaching corp like Dust Uni or something. I'd give you more opportunities to train, get feedback, and I'm sure they'll offer isk for your training and research. He can Join the Learning Coalition to have access to students, without having to commit his allegiances to a specific Corp or Alliance. It might be a better fit.
The Learning Coalition is more of a community of education orientated players who want to help new players improve, and the new players who are seeking help. It is really sort of like an in-game version of the Rookie Training Grounds forum.
Like the Rookie Training Grounds forum, the Learning Coalition brings together people of many different allegiances, some neutral, many not. We try to support each other when it comes to training, but it does not mean we always have to agree. Freedom of speech and thought is an important tenant of the Learning Coalition. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1564
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:17:00 -
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DonGÇÖt mind Artificer, he is just really excited! We all appreciate the Districts and time that DJINN Kujo has donated to help us get this project going. I doubt he needs ISK, but I am sure he will appreciates any recognition he is given for his contributions. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1570
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Posted - 2013.11.18 18:16:00 -
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Pass the word.
Right now I am doing over 90% of the recruiting of new students for the Learning Coalition. I have had very good success for one man, but I could use help.
If you see new players asking questions in local, or you squad up with someone who has been playing less than a week, or however you meet them, direct them to the Learning Coalition. It will help them get the support they need, and help us keep this program going.
If they are still in an NPC Corp, or are not happy with their current Corp, then they should join a Learning coalition Corp. If they are in a player Corp, and are happy there, they can still join Learning Coalition chat as an external student and get many of the benefits that our members get.
Learning Coalition Corps:
- New players should join Immortal Guides. My Corp is the basic training corp. Immortal Guides has no entry requirements.
- Players with over 1.5 million skill points, a mic, and a recommendation from a Learning Coalition instructor can apply to BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades*. To get a recommendation, join Learning Coalition chat and squad up with our instructors. Tell them you would like to join BojoGÇÖs School of the trades and if they agree that you are ready, just give that instruct as a reference in your application letter. Be patient, as it might take some time to verify the recommendation. Joining Immortal Guides first can make it easier and faster to get an Instructor reference as they will be paying particular attention to Immortal Guides members looking for students who are ready to graduate to advanced training.
- Those who wish to dedicated themselves to the ways of the Scout, should apply to R 0 N 1 N.
But to keep it simple, just tell them to join Immortal Guides. Once they get in, we will help them get to where they need to go.
*The recruitment post for BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades is still 95% correct, but keep in mind that it was written before the formation of the Learning Coalition, and before the change in management at BSotT. Bojo The Mighty, although no longer CEO of BSotT, is a founding member of the Learning Coalition, and is on the Learning Coalition Council. |
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1587
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:58:00 -
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This one is mostly to give my members a chance to see their district. I know it looks the same as it does in a Pub match, but its their district and a lot of them would like to see which map it is. I usually donGÇÖt have 16 people on at once, so I will probably invite some people from Learning Coalition chat as well. Artificer will certainly have openings for other members of the Learning Coalition on the Bojo team.
This match is not a combat training exercise. We will be giving people a chance to practice flying dropships. Since the vehicle limit prevents everyone from flying dropships, we will also have melee practice at Objective B. I encourage you to bring a Nanite injector to save some clones (it nets you extra WP too).
Coms will be in Learning Coalition chat, so both teams can communicate.
Please do not hack Objectives. Activating Null cannons will shorten the match.
Please do not hack turrets. Beginner pilots will not appreciate it. You may destroy turrets if you would like. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1587
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:23:00 -
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Maybe we can help Killar-12 out by hosting some of his Thunder Dome matches. Since Immortal Guides and BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades have adjacent districts on the same planet, we donGÇÖt need to buy clone packs to setup matches. Or at least not when we have things coordinated properly. Art did have to buy a clone pack for tonightGÇÖs match, because his district was locked.
Thunder Dome
Anyway, any Thunder Dome type activity in tonightGÇÖs match should be at Objective B. Bring a Nanite Injector. A few uplinks would be good too. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1595
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Posted - 2013.11.22 13:04:00 -
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Learning Coalition had its first Planetary Conquest training match yesterday evening. Well, actually we had one before, but the timer had not been reset, so no one showed up for it.
This training session illustrated the clockwork efficiency and organisation that the Learning Coalition is known for, which of course is based on the workings of a clock which was tossed off a building and run over by a LAV.
Tic.........Tic.Tic.....................Tic......Sproing!
So when the time came for the match, no one from BojoGÇÖs School of the Trade was on to give Learning Coalition members access to the attacking team. I logged in on my BSotT alt, but discovered that he had not been given the Terrestrial Combat Officer role.
So we only had 16 slots. We carpet bombed Corp chat and Learning Coalition chat with invites and took anyone who wanted to go. Luckily they all fit in the 16 available slots.
So the match started and I called in a few militia dropships. Several beginner pilots started plying the skies. A few ran into buildings, so I called in some more.
Unfortunately a relatively new Corp member started hacking all the objectives. I had made it clear in a Corp mail, in Learning Coalition chat when we were doing the invites, and on Comms, that people should not hack the objectives as it would shorten the match. I checked and this member had voice activated in Learning Coalition chat along with the rest of us, but he refused to communicate. So, I am assuming that it was a deliberate act of sabotage.
Since Immortal Guides is a basic training Corp, and has no entry requirements, there is really no practical way to keep spies and saboteurs out, so I was not particularly surprised at this turn of events. I had originally planned to have the other team hack half of the objectives if this happened, to balance the null cannons and give us a decent match time. Unfortunately we were not able to get anyone onto the other team to do this so the match ended in about 8 minutes.
Some of my guys were a little disappointed at that. GÇ£Is that it.GÇ¥ So I went to initiate an attack on BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades, but SVER True Blood had beaten me too it.
The SVER True Blood attack on BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades will happen at 01:00 EVE time, Saturday evening in the US, Sunday morning in Europe. This should be interesting. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1596
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:42:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:So for some reason I jumped from 1200+ likes down to just under 600? It makes no sense. :( Could it be related to this:
General John Ripper wrote:CCP raRaRa: 1 CCP SoxFour: 0 CCP GJR: 1
I put up a valiant fight up against CCP SoxFour to beat his cheated like count. I had 40k likes to his 120k-140k but CCP raRaRA stepped in to even the playing field. For that... I thank him. Victory is much more satisfying when accomplished legitly.
All scripted,glitched likes have now been nerfed thanks to CCP raRaRa. CCP SoxFour is now back down to 13,000 likes. Soxfour thought he could cheat and get away with it, but I decided to rise up and stand up against this corrupt dev. Forum warrior vs Dev Cheater. Yes, I may have utilized the same methods used to boost soxfours likes.... However, if it is okay for dev's to cheat, what example is that setting to the players?
CCP raRaRa a big supporter of fair play has nerfed all forum cheats. I am back to my real like count and I can beat soxfour once and for all! I am even closer to beating him than ever before thanks to raRaRA. Even though I was nerfed, I consider this a victory. A victory for fair play! A victory against soxfour! A victory for all forum warriors!
I will continue my campaign to challenge corrupt ccp dev's. I am still going after you Soxfour. I am not scared of your dev hax. I WILL END YOU!!!!! Maybe some of your fans were running scripts. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1596
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:33:00 -
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That is definitely a possibility. It would be more in keeping with the SVER I know. |
Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1604
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Posted - 2013.11.25 12:47:00 -
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TrueXer0z wrote: Since I have been involved with D-Uni it has been one drama filled QQ fest after another. I noticed that too. It is quite a contrast from what DUST University was like before you got involved.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1604
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:38:00 -
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I thought people might want to know how the training matches went this weekend.
No Proto match with SVER True Blood:
There was some early confusion, but my Director of Diplomacy got me into a squad with Roman837 and we sorted it out. After further consultation with Cpl bloodsone, who is in charge of training at SVER, we agreed to make it a No Proto match to train their newer recruits.
Unfortunately we were only able to get together 6 students from the Learning Coalition at the time of the battle. So we ended up with a team of 12, consisting of 6 students, 3 or 4 high ranked PC vets, and the rest being somewhere between those extremes. I was FC, despite it being my first PC battle. We had 1 tanker from Robing The Hood.
SVER True Blood had a full team of 16, made up of 4 PC vets (as agreed) and the rest being new recruits. Their FC was a PC vet, but this was his first time as FC. They had a new tanker who only had 3 million skill points, but after seeing our RTH tank, Cpl bloodsone brought a tank in as well.
With a 4 person advantage, SVER was able to capture 4 of the 5 objectives quickly, but the Learning Coalition was able to slowly push them back, gaining 2, and then 3 objectives. Unfortunately we did not have the man power to hold all 3 objectives and were reduced to two again.
My most memorable moment was when I ran over a low rise and almost tripped over a SVER tank that I was not expecting to find there. I actually had to back up to avoid the splash damage from my swarms. I ended up getting three +75 assists in the match. Due to our tankerGÇÖs skill and our infantry reacting quickly to naturalize Forge Gunners, I think we only lost a single tank.
Our primary goal of reducing SVER to below 100 clones to prevent an automatic second attack was achieved fairly early in the match. Although SVER maintained their lead throughout, we pushed hard right to the end. It was a good game, and should have provided good experience to both SVERGÇÖs new recruits and our students. It was also good practice for noob FCGÇÖs on both sides.
Meta 2 match with Deadly Blue Dots:
Deadly Blue Dots were looking for a district to attack, and did not know who Immortal Guides were, so they attacked us. Our Director of Diplomacy talked to Echo 1991 and asked if he would like to make it a training match, because if it was a serious attempt to take the district we would have to ask DJINN Kuho to provide 15 of his finest solders to defend us, as he did when Red Star attacked. By the time Echo 1991 contacted me, he seemed quite enthusiastic about making it a training match. So we agreed to make it Militia or Basic Weapons and Suits. We decided not to put restrictions on modules or equipment as the Basic suits themselves restricted how much your could equip.
Unfortunately the time was bad for Learning Coalition and we only managed to scrape together 3 or 4 students. I had to go out and look for people to fill my team. I checked with Onslaught, but they were concerned that Deadly Blue Dots were in their Alliance, so I checked with Echo 1991 again, and he said he was ok with us picking up people from his Alliance as long as they respected the gear restrictions. At one point Echo 1991 and I were recruiting out of the same channel. Ten minutes before the match was to begin I only had 6 people from Learning Coalition lined up. Half students, half instructors. So I ended up filling the last 10 slots with Molon Lobe and a few friends from other Corps.
Unfortunately, even with the Meta 2 restrictions, this unbalanced the teams. Deadly Blue Dots ended up with mostly their own member, with only 1 or 2 ringers, and I think they may have been lacking a full team, as we had against SVER the previous night. We ended up taking 4 objectives early in the match and mostly held them till the end. Deadly Blue Dots did not give up though, and were pushing objectives throughout. But with so many Molon Lobe on our team, and them being down a few people, the odds were heavily unbalanced in our favor.
Out of the few students we had in the fight, one was Squad Leading in a PC battle in his first week in DUST. One of his squad mentioned that he had an Orbital available and it donned on us that we had not yet told him how to do that. Another of our students was operating a tank, which inspired Charlotte OGÇÖDell to run a tank too, to give him some pointers, much to the dismay of the Deadly Blue Dots I am sure. Charlotte had stuck to ground pounding during the SVER fight.
The most amusing moment for me was when we were first forming the team, hearing an exclamation of surprise as someone realized they were on the same team as Charlotte OGÇÖDell.
Wrap up:
All in all these fights were good learning experiences for me, for my students, and for those that needed PC practice on the opposing teams. The only thing I am not happy about is that we were not able to field more students, but this was not really a surprise to me.
I only started recruiting students to Immortal Guides and to the Learning Coalition two and a half months ago. My initial goal was to recruit enough students so that there would normally be enough on at any one time to fill a squad. When I hit that mark I noticed my member retention improved considerably. In the early days a lot of students I invited only stuck round for a few hours before leaving again, but now most of our new members stay.
However, enough to make a squad is not enough to fill a PC team, so I still have a lot of recruiting to do. We only had our first graduation from Immortal Guides a few weeks ago, and have only had a few students move on to BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades for advanced studies. So, until we recruit more students, we will probably be focussing on individual skill training in the controlled environment of a Learning Coalition PC match, such as Dropship flight schools. We are also open to hosting community events.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1604
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:43:00 -
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This BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades tag looks SEXY!
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1617
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:57:00 -
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Last night the Learning Coalition hosted a Dropship flight practice, for new pilots to get some flight time in and improve their flying skills before they have to face a battle environment. Unfortunately it was a bad time for our Flight Instructors, and neither of them were able to make it, but at least we had plenty of time to practice. We will be adjusting the timers to insure that at lease one Flight Instructor can make it for future sessions.
This time we finally got our act together and no one hacked any of the objectives. This gave us 1 hour and 15 minutes of uninterrupted flight time.
One of my students was flying a Dropship in a PC district within hours of creating his first DUST character. Hopefully that will be a better GÇ£welcome to DUSTGÇ¥ experience than a lot of us had.
I made good use of the flight time myself, being a fairly noobish pilot. I landed on roof tops, I landed on the rings of the orbital artillery, I attempted to fly up streets, I flew under catwalks, and I flew under pipes. Then I started sprinting from objective D to objective E and back, landing each time, to simulate hot insertions and pickups.
I lost 5 Dropships; died 3 times; and rolled my Dropship over while attempting to fly under a catwalk, squishing my Director of Diplomacy who apparently was attempting to jump on top of my Dropship. I also had to recall my Dropship close to 20 times due to it bing on itGÇÖs side, on its roof, standing on its nose propped against a wall, etc.
This Flight practice event was open to anyone in Learning Coalition chat. There was still openings available, so we could have taken more people in, had their been more interest.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1643
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Posted - 2013.11.28 19:24:00 -
[30] - Quote
Warrick Horsley wrote:Hey I'm a pretty bad player although I have had the game for a while and just recently started getting into it again. I want to join and hopefully learn how to play better but how do I join the chat channel? Is it on Dust or something else? In the channel list in DUST, scroll down to the + sign at the bottom. Click that and it will bring up a little window asking for the channel name. Type in Learning Coalition and hit X or whatever is says to do too join a channel.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1650
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:28:00 -
[31] - Quote
You will have to have make some allowances for clone losses due to accidents. In previous practice matches I have gotten -50 kills from people goofing round my Dropship and getting squished when I lost control. Not to mention destroying my own clone a few times in fiery explosions.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1726
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:47:00 -
[32] - Quote
Time of battle: 2013.12.03 17:40:00
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1727
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Posted - 2013.12.03 10:56:00 -
[33] - Quote
Regarding the Eliters battle tomorrow, what supporters do we have on at 17:00 EVE time? I have never heard of Eliters, but they have 91 members and have been around since January. In case negotiations are not successful we may need ringers.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1728
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:34:00 -
[34] - Quote
I have invited the good people of Eliters to join Learning Coalition chat and check out the Flight School being held today. If they have any perspective pilots, the 36 million they spent on the Clone Pack to attack BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades could get them an hour long private season tomorrow, if they are interested. Please make them feel welcome.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1729
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:47:00 -
[35] - Quote
The match between Eliters and BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades will be a GÇ£No ProtoGÇ¥ training match. Eliters will be attacking, but will not be attempting to flip the district, which means no followup attack, unless they win the first attack with over 100 clones left, in which case a second attack would start automatically 5 minutes later.
We canGÇÖt generally get enough students with mics to fill all the slots, to there will likely be slots available. If you are available at 17:00 tomorrow and want to get in on the fun, contact Artificer Ghost. Remember, No Proto gear. That usually means no proto suits or weapons. Artificer will likely meet with Tremal Jack before the match to work out the details of how to handle modules and equipment.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1730
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:32:00 -
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I made a thread in The War Room explaining what the Learning Coalition is and why we have districts. I am hoping that many different PC Corps and Alliances will show their support by posting in this thread.
War Room post: Learning Coalition - Planetary Training Club (PTC)
Hopefully this will reduce the number of incidents of Corporations attacking Learning Coalition districts because they did not know who we were.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Bojo's School of the Trades
1730
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Posted - 2013.12.03 19:42:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Something is wrong when Bojo is not in BSOTT and Fox is in BSOTT and not IG.
Something terribly wrong Funny. I was wondering when you would show up again. You have been missing some interesting times.
I am actually in the process of moving back to my own Corp, as my work at BojoGÇÖs is done for the time being. I was Field Commander for the match between BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades and SVER True Blood. First time as FC, first time in a PC match. Fun times.
You will have to go back 10 pages and read what has been going on while you have been away.
Renier Gaden: CEO of Immortal Guides
Fox Gaden: TCO & TMO for BSotT
Crash Gaden: Operations Director, Immortal Guide
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1754
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Posted - 2013.12.05 16:01:00 -
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Sherrad Ventonii wrote: D-Uni had no problem with LC until one of your so called founders started posting straight up lies about us. You guys started the hate. Not us. And yet, instead of responding to that one guy, D-Uni directors responded with personal attacks against people who were not even involved. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1754
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Posted - 2013.12.05 17:03:00 -
[39] - Quote
Immortal Guides is making our District facilities available to a small Corp which wants to run tests on Lag / Frame Rate issues that are common in PC matches. The intent is to try to produce an issue free environment for 15 minutes to made sure there are no inherent connection issues, and then to try to reproduce the lag / frame rate drop common in PC matches by spamming vehicles, Nano Hives, and Drop Uplinks.
I am interested to hear their results. It would be good to quantify how much Uplink Spamming it takes to start creating problems. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1772
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:57:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:So although when I return I can not be a part of this LC...it seems like diplomacy issues with DUNI?
I left DUST University because TrueXer0z was a bully and a tyrant (in game and on the forums); and because Kevall Longstrider/Dennie Fleetfoot was unwilling to put a stop to it. He has a zero tolerance police against swearing, but he takes no action to prevent any other type or bullying or harassment of his members. If the CEO would not act, I had not power to do anything about it, and I felt that if I stayed I would simply be enabling TrueXer0z' bullying behavior.
So I left, and I have been trying to stay clear of DUST University, thinking that if I stayed out of TrueXer0z business, that he would stay out of mine. That is why I have been so reticent about talking about the circumstances of my departure. Unfortunately Charlotte OGÇÖDell broke that truce, and finally brought the full wrath of TrueXer0z down upon my head.
I got involved in setting up the Learning Coalition to continue the work that I had been doing at DUST University for 5 months. I made contact with all the independent people and groups actively trying to help new players at that time. I felt that if we all combined our resources we could help a lot more new players than we could individually. So when Charlotte OGÇÖDell suggested forming a coalition for learning, I took the idea and ran with it.
I knew Charlotte OGÇÖDell was a Troll when I got involved with him. But I also knew that he was actively taking new players under his wing and training them. Actions speak leader than words, and the way he was finding and helping new players really spoke to me.
Charlotte OGÇÖDell was always a bit suspicious of DUST UniversityGÇÖs intentions. I suspected it was because they were a big organization and no one really knew what happened inside. He also told me that he thought that posts by DUST University officials seemed GÇ£pompousGÇ¥. So I was greatly surprised when he decided to join DUST University. He was only in there for a couple of days, but I assume he used that time to read their forums and talk to their students, because after he left D-Uni his suspicion turned into a full on hate for the organization.
After that Charlotte OGÇÖDell wanted the Learning Coalition to take DUST UniversityGÇÖs districts and get into Planetary Conquest training. While I thought the idea of using districts for training might have some merit, I could not understand why we should be taking them from DUST University. I stated both privately and publicly that I did not think that taking DUST UniversityGÇÖs districts would be a net benefit to the community. What I had heard indicated that DUST University students were being given opportunities to train in Planetary Conquest using those districts. After giving it some thought I finally put my food down and stated that I would not have any personal involvement in the taking of DUST University districts.
Shortly after that two Planetary Conquest districts were donated to the Learning Coalition. Around the same time, management at DUST University decided to get out of Planetary Conquest because it was too much work to administrate and because they could teach friendly fire mechanics in Faction Warfare after 1.7. So when someone attacked their districts, they did not bother to defend them.
Charlotte OGÇÖDell, in his ongoing vendetta against D-Uni, made a thread in The War Room forum trolling D-Uni for losing their districts. He was quite taken with the fact that the Learning Coalition now had districts and DUST University had none. Inevitably a D-Uni director responded with criticism for the Learning Coalition for acting in such a manner. I posted to say that Charlotte OGÇÖDell was representing his own views, and did not speak for other members of the Learning Coalition.
When TrueXer0z finally posted, rather than responding to Charlotte OGÇÖDellGÇÖs posts, he instead posted vicious and personal attacks against me. Among other things, he claimed that I had left DUST University because I had a mental breakdown in real life. It was not just a GÇ£heGÇÖs crazy!GÇ¥ as you would commonly see on the forums. He was trying to convince people that this was an event that had actually happened, and that I was mentally unstable in real life.
Of course with posts slandering people outside of the game the entire thread was deleted by CCP. TrueXer0z also made several posts in this thread as well, but most of those were also deleted by CCP.
With this type of personal attack being leveled against me, I felt it was about time that I tell my side of the story. |
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1772
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Posted - 2013.12.07 15:27:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:So although when I return I can not be a part of this LC...it seems like diplomacy issues with DUNI? I honestly still believe BSOTT should have been taken down a notch, to something less official.
You see because the idea of BSOTT being a corporation sort of infers a Supermarketesque approach when that is not at all the direction. I would like to see BSOTT as a smaller, (3 Masters, 6 students to a master) sort of deal. Something that can be handled without a spotlight grudge match.
But I forfeited any say because Arty was really enthusiastic and I am a crowd pleasa. But don't start up a pissing match with DUNI, it's a pretty stupid approach. Someone apologize and regurgitate any and all egos. It's the LC for god's sake.
But good work on districts and things and going on the direction you wish, I really do believe that y'all can create something. But just recognize that when/if I return I am not going to be officially part of anything. One of the principles I have tried to adhere to as the Learning Coalition grows is to maintain a strong student to instructor ratio. Having 3 Masters and 6 students only helps 6 students at a time, and scheduling conflicts can prevent the 3 Masters from always being there for their students. Having 50 Masters and 100 students helps 100 students while maintaining a similar quality of instruction. It also insures that there is always someone on to help. It builds a community.
The balance was hard to maintain at first. When the Learning Coalition started we had Instructors and no students. Then as I focused on recruitment we started getting more students than those instructors could properly support. So I started to focus more on recruiting instructors, until the number of instructors was threatening to catch up to the number of students, so I shifted back to trying to recruit more students. Eventually I hope that the Learning Coalition will take on a life of its own and will not need me anymore.
Neither Arty nor I did anything to instigate the current dispute that D-Uni has with the Learning Coalition. Art has just been reacting to events around him and trying to make things work, as best he can. He has no personal beef with D-Uni, and they should have no beef with him. But when they criticize the Learning Coalition, Art canGÇÖt be faulted for trying to defend it.
Trying to deal with administering districts just makes me really wish CCP would get off their butts and add in the Training Ground that they talked about. Holding districts is a lot of hassle just to teach Dropship Flight School and setup controlled environments for specialty training. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1813
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:57:00 -
[42] - Quote
Yesterday I posted that hunting tanks with a Swarm Launcher on a Scout suit was going to be a real Cat & Mouse game. So when I finally got to play a match this morning, whoGÇÖs tank to you think I blew up first?
Cat Merc of course! How fitting. What are the odds.
Anyway, I hate to break up this banter with a public service message, but I got to post it.
Maybe we should make a thread called Learning Coalition Banter. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1813
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:58:00 -
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As a pilot project, the Learning CoalitionGÇÖs foray into Planetary Conquest was very successful. We determined that there were several types of training and events which the Learning Coalition could run using Planetary Conquest districts, which were beneficial to the community. We also determined that the Community is supportive of the Learning Coalition holding districts and hosting such events.
We were able to gain experience with district management and the mechanics behind Planetary Conquest. This gave us a better understanding of the resource requirements for effective management of PC districts.
Students: In order for training matches to be viable, the Learning Coalition needs to be able to field 12 students, with 4 instructors, at any time that we have an active district. This would allow us to field a full team for training matches against external Corporations, or to stage an 8 v 8 internal match in a Red vs Blue style.
Administration: It is clear that for any time slot in which the Learning Coalition operate a district we need to have at least 3 people fully capable of organizing events, training sessions, or coordinating ringers. We must have backups for our backups if we want things to run smoothly. This must be in place for each Learning Coalition Corp which holds a district.
Even for Community events or public training sessions where the event is open to the public, rather than requiring the presence of LC students, we would still need members to organize, and bring people into the match.
Based on the projected growth rate of the Learning Coalition it is expected that we will have the student body and administration in place to be able to properly make use of, and manage, Planetary Conquest districts in about 3 months. Adding a little margin for error, our goal is to get back into Planetary Conquest district based training in April. Provided that the Community still supports us in this endeavour.
Therefore, Immortal Guides has sold all clones and has abandoned its district. All funds from clone sales have been transferred to Learning Coalition Bank, where transactions with these funds can be tracked by members of the Learning Coalition Council. The ISK will be used to fund education programs such as: Skill Book reimbursement, vehicle reimbursement when an Instructor calls in vehicles for students to train with, or to purchase clone packs to claim districts in April.
BojoGÇÖs School of the TradesGÇÖ district was lost to Eliters in a training match due to our guy not being able to get online to bring people in to hack an objective to ensure a defender victory. Since the Learning Coalition is pulling out of PC, we release all claim to this district. BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades did not make any profit from their district, although I think they came close to breaking even, minus the cost of some dropships used for training.
The Learning Coalition may continue to offer PC district based training, if arrangements can be made with Corporations holding districts to allow us to use their facilities. Our capacity to organize such events will increase as we train up more Terrestrial Combat Officers, and more Terrestrial Management Officers. By train, I mean more than simple the mechanics. We need people in these roles who are capable of organizing events and training sessions, so that we can distribute the workload. If we hold multiple events/sessions, each should be run by a different person, to avoid an undo burden resting on a single set of shoulders. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1815
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:15:00 -
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You can go ahead and withdraw some funds from the bank to cover the Dropships you lost due to students crashing them. Just type GÇ£Dropship replacementGÇ¥ in the note. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1816
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:56:00 -
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Now for a bit of recognition to members of the Community who helped to make the Planetary Conquest District Training Pilot Project such a success.
Many thanks to DJINN Kujo and Ancient Exiles. for donating the two districts to the Learning Coalition. It was a bit of a surprise, but we learned so much from the experience.
Another thanks to DJINN Kujo and Ancient Exiles for providing ringers when Red Star attacked Immortal GuidesGÇÖ district.
Many thanks also go to Molon Labe. which agreed to ring for the Learning Coalition if needed, and provided members to fill our teams for training matches when we were short.
Many thanks to individual members of the Learning Coalition who offered to ring or fill slots in training matches, from corps such as Robbing the Hood, Science of Death, Southern Legion, Onslaught, and many more.
I must thank SVER True Blood, in particular Roman837 and CPL Bloodstone, for organizing a No Proto training match using the BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades district. It was not only my fist time as FC, but my first time in a PC battle (even a training battle). It was a good fight and I learned a lot. Top WP on our team in that match was actually a student.
I must thank Echo 1991 and Deadly Blue Dots for organizing a Meta 2 match in the Immortal Guides district. We had a new member who had only been playing DUST for a few days Squad Leading in that match.
I would like to thank Tremal Jack for agreeing to a training match using BojoGÇÖs School of the TradeGÇÖs district. I am sorry that we did not show up, but getting the district is a good cancellation prize.
Finally I must thank xxwhitedevillxx M, and Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn, for the privilege of hosting their PC Lag and Frame Rate testing. I feel this type of testing makes a positive contribution to the game and the community which could benefit from any tweaking CCP does as a result of this testing. Besides, if I ever feel sentimental about our time in PC, I can always watch the MCUU video of their testing to see the district we once held. These are the results of PC testing |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1843
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:05:00 -
[46] - Quote
I was playing Faction Warfare with Remote Explosives and Flux Grenades. I did not get banned, but for some reason every time I blew up a Remote Explosive, Artificer Ghost seemed to be standing right beside it. I swear, Artificer accounted for half of my friendly fire kills.
I am not sure who was providing the EVE support earlier, but today Charlie Firpol is providing EVE support to anyone in Learning Coalition chat fighting for Min/Gal FW. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1910
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:06:00 -
[47] - Quote
New Slogan:
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition!
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1988
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Posted - 2013.12.26 01:42:00 -
[48] - Quote
I managed to go 15/1 on my Heavy. That is probably the best single game KDR I have managed.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1996
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Posted - 2013.12.29 19:04:00 -
[49] - Quote
Artificer Ghost wrote:Really Fox? Am I better than Fox? It can't be! It is just impossible! Improbable! Inconceivable! I have surpassed the master!
Yea, try going 35/4. Granted, I was using my Proto-Logi and RS-90, but whatever, shut up. I am known for my intellect, not my shooting.
I am old and slow. That is why I tend to do better playing a heavy than playing other classes. I just donGÇÖt have the reaction time to get the most out of a Scout. I was finally starting to do OK on the Heavy, going positive in most games, then the HMG was buffed. 15/1 was done without a Logi-Bro. I could probably beat that if I got a city map with 16 random Reds and two friendly Logi-Bro.
And for the record, I started playing Heavy when they were weak, and then stuck with Heavy when they got worse, so I am going to enjoy riding this wave guilt free until it crests.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2006
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Posted - 2013.12.31 22:42:00 -
[50] - Quote
I found this buried deep in a wall of text.
Aaronjin wrote:In the "Learning Coalition" channel I have joined, there have been players looking for groups and they all have been oddly nice to interact with.
It warms my hart.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2143
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Posted - 2014.01.12 14:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
I had to give a person a 3 day ban from Learning Coalition chat today due to offensive and sexist language directed at mercs who may or may not have been female.
Renier Gaden does have the power to kick people from Learning Coalition chat, so if someone is being extremely disruptive in Learning Coalition chat, feel free to mail Renier Gaden. Be sure to describe what the problem is.
So far this is the first time any such action has had to be taken.
Fox Guide series, 11 guides and counting.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2144
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Posted - 2014.01.12 19:02:00 -
[52] - Quote
I have updated my recruitment ad to replace BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades with Learning Coalition Collage.
I would also like to wish the members of Ancient Erectiles the best of luck on their new Corp. I think it is cool that a bunch of Immortal Guides graduates are making their own Corp, and the name is hilarious.
Fox Guide series
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2152
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:59:00 -
[53] - Quote
Artificer Ghost wrote:Oh goodness, I forgot to finish the Collage! Fox, did McBob turn it in to you? He said he's do it, but I don't trust his work ethic. I finally got it! Making fun of a dyslexic. Shame on you! And Dam Spell Check too!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2193
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:47:00 -
[54] - Quote
Been helping a Corp member with his Guide. I was thinking how nice it would be to have another guide writer in the Corp. And then he goes and publishes it on his DUST University account. Oh well, at least he gave me personal credit. I wonder how many people have characters in both Immortal Guides and DUST University? I know of at least two. Been having a lot of DUST University students coming to me for help recently too. I am always happy to help.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2486
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:52:00 -
[55] - Quote
Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:I can't seem to find the chat channel. Assistance appreciated. It is called GÇ£Learning CoalitionGÇ¥. Scroll to the bottom of your chat channel list to where it has a GÇ£+GÇ¥. That should bring up a window to type in the channel name. There is no password.
If you have done all that and it looks like you are the only one in the channel, it may be that it has enough people in channel to switch modes as very large channels do, to where only you and people who have posted recently are displayed.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2491
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Posted - 2014.02.14 21:37:00 -
[56] - Quote
bigbad bro wrote:I have a question. Can vets be accepted for I have a few questions about my tank? We are all newbs at something. Would you believe that I have never used a Nova Knife?
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2600
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:17:00 -
[57] - Quote
Jillic wrote:Hey, the better your computer works, the faster you can pay me back, and the less likely it is I'll have to drop that 600mil bounty on your head.
Call it a win/win
<3 That would make me jealous. People keep putting these penny ante bounties on Reneir GadenGÇÖs head. They have not even added up to a million yet.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2601
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:53:00 -
[58] - Quote
Artificer Ghost wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:That would make me jealous. People keep putting these penny ante bounties on Reneir GadenGÇÖs head. They have not even added up to a million yet.
If you want, buddy, I can put a 400k bounty on your head. <3 That would be boosting! It would not be legit.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2664
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Posted - 2014.02.28 13:53:00 -
[59] - Quote
I made a post in General Discussion to see if we can recruit a few more experienced players to act as instructors in the channel.
You too can help improve the New Player Experience!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2795
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:53:00 -
[60] - Quote
Some edits need to be made to the original post.
BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades needs to be changed to Learning Coalition College.
Terrestrial Suppression Force needs to be added as another option for new players. (We are all about choice right?)
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2819
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:24:00 -
[61] - Quote
When I viewed the Learning Coalition squad vid that Jillic posted, it started with a GÇ£Why CoachGÇ¥ commercial encouraging people to get into Coaching. How appropriate!
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2820
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Posted - 2014.03.22 13:38:00 -
[62] - Quote
Charlettte, you should probably list R 0 N 1 N in the list of Corporations Accepting Students as well. But specify that they specialize in the Scouting Arts.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2830
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:36:00 -
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Recruiting from the Learning Coalition student body:
First some ground rules. Please do not post recruitment ads in Learning Coalition chat. That is not what that channel is for. However, once you have someone in your squad you are free to tell them about how great your Corp is and what your plans for the future are. If you like how they play, let them know you would be willing to accept them in your Corp if they wanted to apply. Its called Graduation folks.
The Learning Coalition is a collection of Trade Schools, Training Groups, and private tutors that help new players learn to be effective solders. We are trying to get them ready to meet the requirements of the Corps they wish to join. Some leave early to join casual or small independent Corps, while others stick around longer until their skills have developed enough to get into top PC Corps.
From my own experience as CEO of Immortal Guides, I find the average development time for a student is about 2 months. Some take longer, and some develop more quickly. It usually depends on how many hours a day they play the game. Immortal Guides has had about 3 waves of graduation since it became a Basic Training Corp in October of 2013. Although we have individuals coming and going all the time, a GÇ£waveGÇ¥ is when a group of students start to become very effective, the CorpGÇÖs weekly KDR starts to rise above 1, and then several of the top students get accepted in a large PC Corp, or decide to form their own Corp. You can pretty much tell where Immortal Guides students are in their development cycle by watching my CorpGÇÖs weekly stats.
Having members leave is part of the expectation of a training Corp, and something to be celebrated. Although students that want to stick around for casual play, or to become mentors in their own right, are always welcome as long as they want to stay. The ones who move on to other Corps though, generally remain in the Learning Coalition chat channel, so we continue to stay in touch wherever they may go. At this point some of our early graduates can practically be considered Veteran players, and they continue to help develop our new members through Learning Coalition chat. I am always proud to see Immortal Guides alumni making an impact on New Eden.
Of course not all Immortal Guides members are students. We also have highly experienced Vets join Immortal Guides every once in a while, and it is always nice to have some instructors on staff to provide their advice in Corp chat and on the Corp forum. But they are the minority. Most of my students instruction come from members of other Corps who squad with them or answer their questions in Learning Coalition chat.
I imagine the other Learning Coalition training Corps are much the same in these regards, although with some of them specializing more, there may be some differences.
Squadding with a student in Learning Coalition chat has benefits on both sides. On the one hand as an experienced player you are able to give them advice which will help them develop into a skilled mercenary. On the other hand you are getting a feel for what kind of person they are, whether they are fun to play with, whether they seem to understand their role, whether they can shoot straight, whether they are a team player, etc. If they are good and you like them, then tell them that if they applied to your Corp you would happily accept them. If they are not there yet, but they are fun to play with and showing promise, suggest to them that once they get some more practice and start doing better that they should consider sending in an application. A friendly suggestion like that can stick with a person, and when they do get good, they my choose your Corp over other prospects due to those early words of encouragement.
I do ask that if you are squadding with new players for Learning Coalition chat they you hold up your end of the bargain and try to advise the player and help them develop. Tell them if they are doing something wrong, but be understanding and encouraging. When they get good, they will remember those people who helped them along the way.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:39:00 -
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We are branching out. One of my Corp members has created a Spanish language version of Learning Coalition chat called Novatos Espa+¦ol.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.07 15:36:00 -
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Any independent training corporation (as in not just a feeder for another Corp) that is dedicated to helping members of the DUST community improve their skills, may join the Learning Coalition, provided that there are no interpersonal or political conflicts that would be disruptive to the Coalition.
If you are the CEO of an established training Corp, and wish to become part of the Learning Coalition, then make a post explaining what your Corp is all about and ask for admission into the Learning Coalition. If it appears to be a viable training Corp, and there are no other issues, I (as Chairman of the Learning Coalition Council) will name your Corp as a member of the Learning Coalition and update our promotional material to include your Corp. (That sometimes takes some time.)
Of course, if a member of the Coalition Council objects to your Corp joining the Learning Coalition, then the Council will have to discuss the matter in more detail to determine what course of action to take. The Council includes the CEO of each Learning Coalition Corp, the 4 founding members, and the leader of any Learning Coalition Training Group. Some of the newer CEOGÇÖs have never participated in a Council discussion, as we have not had to have one since the Learning Coalition was founded, but they would be contacted if the situation arose.
We ask that member Corporations encourage all their members to join Learning Coalition chat.
Individuals can join the Learning Coalition as independent Instructors/Students by simply joining the chat channel.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:45:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:http://i.imgur.com/PF2jV9U.jpg <----- super awesome flow chart for new mercs who can't decide what to do with their SP I linked that in my Corp forum yesterday. Someone put a fair amount of work into that.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.09 11:47:00 -
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Also Charlotte, I hate to make you update the original post again, but Art disbanded Learning Coalition College.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.09 12:38:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote: Awesome, thanks fox :D
I'll write up a post later (got an English essay to type up atm)
So if my corp got into PC or we had some ringers, would that be acceptable? (My corp has neither but just for future reference)
To qualify for Corporate membership in the Learning Coalition a Corporation must be providing training which benefits the DUST Community.
The Basic Training Corp model is the most common, where new players join the Corp and receive training until they become competent enough to GÇ£GraduateGÇ¥ by joining a more competitive Corp. This helps the DUST Community because there is no restriction on which Corp they should graduate to, so any Corp may benefit from the Training CorpGÇÖs services by receiving a skilled and competent member.
Major PC Corps normally would not qualify because they train players specifically to fight for them. Likewise feeder Corps donGÇÖt qualify because they are training for the benefit of a specific Corp.
However there are other training models. An established PC Corp could qualify for Learning Coalition membership if they followed the Agony Unleashed model. Agony Unleashed is a competitive NPC Null Sec PVP Corp in EVE Online which also has a training department. They train people from other Corps in PVP (for a fee). They have been doing this for a very long time and are widely respected for the quality of their training.
So, if a PC Corp were to have an organized program for training members of other Corporations in tactics, roles, doctrine and other aspects of the game, it could qualify for Corporate membership in the Learning Coalition. I would say a big PC Corp would probably have to work a little harder to prove that they were providing a training service to the community, as they would receive more scrutiny from the public than a small Corp would.
Of course this does not preclude Basic Training Corps from dabbling in PC. Immortal Guides and BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades (before it disbanded as a Corp) each held a district in December, which we used for training matches and Dropship Flight School.
Immortal Guides also sponsors the Student Planetary Conquest Project. This is a student run project. A student must put together a team (there are rules around how many must be Immortal Guides members), and they must identify their FC, and squad leaders. Immortal Guides will provide them with experienced PC players to mentor them while they train to be an effective PC team. Once they are ready, the team leader will be given the Terrestrial Management Officer role, and their squad leaders will be given the Terrestrial Combat Officer role. I will then transfer sufficient funds in the Corp wallet for them to purchase a clone pack. They are free to select any district to attack. They are responsible for diplomacy and other meta game components of the attack. It is up to them whether they wish to negotiate a training match, or whether they attempt to flip a district. (They are expected to be honourable in any negotiations they make.) If they manage to capture a district, that student team maintains responsibility for that district. When the team leader graduates they have the option of transferring the district to their new Corp.
The Student Planetary Conquest Project is designed not just to train students in Planetary Conquest, but to train the students running the project to be future directors and CEOGÇÖs. It is a difficult task, but even complete failure can be a valuable learning opportunity.
As far as Ringers, we do not have any rule against members of Learning Coalition Corps ringing for other Corps. Members of Immortal Guides are free to do so. I place no restriction on who they can or cannot ring for. We are supposed to be mercenaries after all.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:01:00 -
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A post on the Spanish forum by my new Director of Spanish Affairs and Diplomacy about the Spanish language version of Learning Coalition chat, called Novatos Espa+¦ol.
Presentando el canal Novatos Espa+¦ol
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:54:00 -
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Wooohooo! Forum Warrior level 3! I finally made it!
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.06.09 12:20:00 -
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Jillic wrote:Not everyone, we're missing a few. Like all of R0N1N.
Yea, maybe, dunno. Destiny looks tasty fine. I saw Lightning xVx post the other day, so he has not been able to tear himself away completely.
Also, Art did not make enough ISK to buy a Plex this month, so with his EVE subscription lapsed we will be seeing him on DUST again for a while.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.06.09 15:29:00 -
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I am going to be creating a new Learning Coalition thread. It will be easier to keep it up to date if I am the original poster because I am more consistently here. (I am the only member of the Council who has never left the game for an extended stretch.)
If you intend to provide services within the Learning Coalition, or you think you might some day, you should watch for the new thread and try to reserve a post on the first page to talk about your service, group, or Corporation.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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