Also I've killed some 75 m away, only because thry were afk so I was having target practice, id shoot then readjust from recoil and repeat 6 times so if you worry about ars from that distance try not afking and you'll probably be fine

Ehh either way ike 5-10 m diff
And if anything needs a nerf its my favorite weapon scrambler rifle it absolutely demolishes

Ehh either way ike 5-10 m diff
And if anything needs a nerf its my favorite weapon scrambler rifle it absolutely demolishes

it depends on the situations/circumstances under which these individuals k/d increases. for example,

people said flaylocks were OP. but, the only situations in which they were effective were CQB. therefore, a mid range weapon lossing to a CQB weapon is clear not OP, its simply doing its job.

If those 50 people using SMGs were outgunning ARs at mid range, that could indicate a problem. however, if it is close obviously its ok.


Ars dn't only out range every other gun other than snipers, but they beat them in close range as well. at elevated hieghts and basically in any situation. can't be more OP than that

I love Scr rifles! to death!...lol

but they are balanced by range, fire rate and armor/shield damage.

being a single fire weapon the Scr is horrible in CQB. although the hip fire is still pretty good CQB, you cant spam the trigger because you will miss most shots in CQC and you'll overheat. Scr requires skill. At longer ranges, side to side movement can cause misses, and every shot counts with the overheating factor. lol

AScr is balanced too, its good only in its intended range of mid-close range.

Also I've killed some 75 m away, only because thry were afk so I was having target practice, id shoot then readjust from recoil and repeat 6 times so if you worry about ars from that distance try not afking and you'll probably be fine

The problem I see with the AR is this

Shotgun beat AR in the 0-5 meter range (50% of the time due to hit detection, so its equal footing)

Snipers and Forges beat AR at 90+ range (100% of the time)

Mass Drivers and explosives can own ARs around corners / obstacles

ARs are undisputed within the 5-75 range mark, no other low mid, mid, or high mid range weapon can compare outside of player skill difference. Meaning the only diversity will come through explosives, or super cqc or distant range weapons.

* scrambler rifle 25-120 m

I only said that because their complainting about 60 m ar shots, earlier I killed a medium suit at 122 m with the scrambler rifle, I double checked it team mate stood at the exact peice of cover and the scanner said 122 m
and if someone creeps up on me I just swap to smg

The problem I see with the AR is this

Shotgun beat AR in the 0-5 meter range (50% of the time due to hit detection, so its equal footing)

Snipers and Forges beat AR at 90+ range (100% of the time)

Mass Drivers and explosives can own ARs around corners / obstacles

ARs are undisputed within the 5-75 range mark, no other low mid, mid, or high mid range weapon can compare outside of player skill difference. Meaning the only diversity will come through explosives, or super cqc or distant range weapons.

So, every other weapon in this game gets nerfed just as soon as the AR nerf brigade gets going.

OP or Not, the AR is ruining Dust. This weapon is so overused it's just stupid. The weapon, in pubs, accounts for as many kills as 11 of the 14 weapons combined. Combined.

Does that sound like balance or diversity? no, it isn't.

CCP - Are other weapons supposed to compete with the AR? They aren't.

It's about damn time that CCP approaches balance with, you know, usage balance in mind.

I will give you that aim assist on ars is slaughter MASSACRE

Nobody uses the Scrambler rifle. ARs score 10 times as many kills as scrambler rifles.

The bottom line is this - It doesn't matter the reason, the AR spam is beyond bad. It is used to kill as much as 11 of the other 13 weapons combined. Yeah, that means 11 weapons are pretty useless. People pretty much only use them because they don't want to be AR spamming noobs.

The assault scrambler rifle can easily kill an assault rifle user. Or a mass driver. The problem is that people don't know how to stick in groups. They all want to infiltrate the enemy lines and be a Rambo.