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Arc-08
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:37:00 -
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Nerf the AR
Buff the Burst AR
the burst actually takes skill to aim, even with aim assist, i get killed before i can even move my gun to the left/right. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
854
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:19:00 -
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the CoD and Battle field trio are:
[1] Ars [2] SMGs [3] Snipers
everything that isn't those people want nerfed....
CoD and battlefield noobs want explosives nerfed. But explosives have more draw backs than Ars:
- with remote explsives you have to be extremely close or predict enemy movement to get them. (that means your predictable AR noobs)
- MD you have to calculate Arc, have limited Ammo and do little damage to shields the primary defense right now.
- flaylocks have only 3 rounds in the clip a small blast radius, and travel time. its only good in CQC, and IS not designed to be a direct impact weapon.
IDK why people are trying to get them nerfed to doing only direct impact damage. side arms are supposed to be reliable. minmintar weapons are reliable. flaylock is a splash damage weapon. Due to the very small splash radius the splash damage was supposed to be high.
the current damage profile is fine, but it needs a .5meter increase in radius.
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Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
14
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:24:00 -
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this post makes me laugh, its the aim bot thats making AR so damn good, iv been using this since closed beta and the weapon that eats ppl with a AR is a scrambler rifle and a laser rifle. maybe you should just stop your crying over it cause i sure if it got nerfed you would cry about another weapon being over used |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
854
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:29:00 -
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Global Enforcer wrote:this post makes me laugh, its the aim bot thats making AR so damn good, iv been using this since closed beta and the weapon that eats ppl wit ha AR is a scrambler rifle and a laser rifle. maybe you should just stop your crying over it cause i sure if it got nerfed you would cry about another weapon being over used
I've been playing tis game for 6 months now as an Active player, and a heavy. I never had a problem with lazers in chromosome. people like oyu b*itched about it and nerfed it. scramblers before 1.4 had almost no range compared to the AR. now they have less than the TAC ar.
still the AR was OP before aim assist. people only noticed now, because people like you who could't aim before are now actual hiting people with you duvolle, from your caldari assault suit. so before, people would spray AR and it would pwn now with aim assist your AR is a f#cking lazer.
people only die to lazers at longer ranges where lazes are supposed to work.
face the facts. what other gun in the game at milita level does 467 damage per second with no downsides or draw backs in close range out to long range?
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Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
14
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:33:00 -
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maybe if you played this game since closed beta you would know what your talking about and obviously you dont otherwise your comment just now would be directed tp the right person, i have never moaned or complained about a weapon other then av to be nerfed so get you facts straight you noob |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
854
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:35:00 -
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Global Enforcer wrote:. maybe you should just stop your crying over it cause i sure if it got nerfed you would cry about another weapon being over used
I recommend nooobs like you take that advice. because you nerfed the lazer, nerfed the heavy suit, nerfed the HMG, nerfe the MD, nerfed scrambler pistols, nerfed scouts, nerfed the flaylocks, and now you want to nerf MD again and forguns.
seriously. YOU AR noobs constantly b*tch about anything that isn't an AR, SMG or sniper rifle. The only weapons that needed a nerf was the TAC AR and caldari logis.
All the above weapons were perfetly fine. Map designed might have made them more advantageous on one map than another but, thats a map design issue not a weapon issue. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
854
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:37:00 -
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Global Enforcer wrote:maybe if you played this game since closed beta you would know what your talking about and obviously you dont otherwise your comment just now would be directed tp the right person, i have never moaned or complained about a weapon other then av to be nerfed so get you facts straight you noob
Closed beta was reset anyway at chromosome so the sh*t in closed doesn't even count bro. if you actually played closed beta you would know this. but you did not you are simply stating this to try to garner respect, of which for you i have none. |
Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
14
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:37:00 -
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and your telling me i cant aim lmao i think you should just shut up cause your digging a hole |
Global Enforcer
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
14
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:39:00 -
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you really dont know what your talking about, having it reset at open beta means nothing what your saying. like i said you should shut up cause you dont know what your talking about and your proving it with your stupid troll posts |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4848
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:41:00 -
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How about we cut back on the e-thuggery. This isn't general discussion... |
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
854
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:42:00 -
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Global Enforcer wrote:and your telling me i cant aim lmao i think you should just shut up cause your digging a hole
well, you said I'm a noob... lolz. I use the heavy suit and HMGs, a very gimped combo. but, Idnt have to play with an entire team of proto caldari assaults and logis to get kills. bro, come at me. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
854
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Posted - 2013.09.06 18:44:00 -
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Global Enforcer wrote:you really dont know what your talking about, having it reset at open beta means nothing what your saying. like i said you should shut up cause you dont know what your talking about and your proving it with your stupid troll posts
bro it has everything to do with what im talking about, and the fact that you want to be a couch potato warrior and challenge me on a post that has absolutely nothing to do with you or your full proto corp shows you have nothing better to do. anyways, since you obviously have no verifible evidence to back anything your saying, im ending this here. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
57
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:23:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Global Enforcer wrote:. maybe you should just stop your crying over it cause i sure if it got nerfed you would cry about another weapon being over used I recommend nooobs like you take that advice. because you nerfed the lazer, nerfed the heavy suit, nerfed the HMG, nerfe the MD, nerfed scrambler pistols, nerfed scouts, nerfed the flaylocks, and now you want to nerf MD again and forguns. seriously. YOU AR noobs constantly b*tch about anything that isn't an AR, SMG or sniper rifle. The only weapons that needed a nerf was the TAC AR and caldari logis. All the above weapons were perfetly fine. Map designed might have made them more advantageous on one map than another but, thats a map design issue not a weapon issue.
Watch it the Ar mafia doesn't like the truth |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
858
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Posted - 2013.09.06 20:46:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Global Enforcer wrote:. maybe you should just stop your crying over it cause i sure if it got nerfed you would cry about another weapon being over used I recommend nooobs like you take that advice. because you nerfed the lazer, nerfed the heavy suit, nerfed the HMG, nerfe the MD, nerfed scrambler pistols, nerfed scouts, nerfed the flaylocks, and now you want to nerf MD again and forguns. seriously. YOU AR noobs constantly b*tch about anything that isn't an AR, SMG or sniper rifle. The only weapons that needed a nerf was the TAC AR and caldari logis. All the above weapons were perfetly fine. Map designed might have made them more advantageous on one map than another but, thats a map design issue not a weapon issue. Watch it the Ar mafia doesn't like the truth
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
858
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Posted - 2013.09.06 20:56:00 -
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most of these AR noobs use no tactics. this is why I know (inaddition to all the above) that its OP.
in the higher teir corps they always use this combo:
- caldari assault/ logi ADV or PROTO
- GEK or Duvolle
- they stick together in one big mass and just charge every objective head on
- in one v. one situations they do the two-step shuffle
basically they rely on their gear to carry them to victory. since they have the best gear, they assume that anything that kills them as a result of skill or its effective range must be OP.
All other weapons and suits when they become proto they just get better at what the weapon is designed to do, and it doesn't extend beyond its purpose parameters. i.e. the HMG at proto still does what an HMG at standard level does, but better.
the AR at proto becomes an HMG basically in regards dps, but has better shield vs armor specs and range. the militia AR itself insta-kills people.
aim assist is not the problem. aim assist shows that Ars are OP because now everyone can see the dps i was talking about combined with its accuracy.
people try to say scramblers are just as good. wrong scramblers have overheat and are single fire weapons. Ascr still do less overall dps compared to milita ARs and its a lvl4 weapon compared to one that requires 0 SP. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
867
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:54:00 -
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everyone please move all AR comments to the new thread i have posted. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108657&find=unread |
Piraten Hovnoret
BIG BAD W0LVES
57
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:14:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:most of these AR noobs use no tactics. this is why I know (inaddition to all the above) that its OP. in the higher teir corps they always use this combo:
- caldari assault/ logi ADV or PROTO
- GEK or Duvolle
- they stick together in one big mass and just charge every objective head on
- in one v. one situations they do the two-step shuffle
basically they rely on their gear to carry them to victory. since they have the best gear, they assume that anything that kills them as a result of skill or its effective range must be OP. All other weapons and suits when they become proto they just get better at what the weapon is designed to do, and it doesn't extend beyond its purpose parameters. i.e. the HMG at proto still does what an HMG at standard level does, but better. the AR at proto becomes an HMG basically in regards dps, but has better shield vs armor specs and range. the militia AR itself insta-kills people. aim assist is not the problem. aim assist shows that Ars are OP because now everyone can see the dps i was talking about combined with its accuracy. people try to say scramblers are just as good. wrong scramblers have overheat and are single fire weapons. Ascr still do less overall dps compared to milita ARs and its a lvl4 weapon compared to one that requires 0 SP.
This is wy they did cry about the MD.... In 1,3 I could hold of a full team in my proto MD. ( high sp on everything ). They just kept on charging head on and got wasted. When they did flank manuvers and **** I got wasted LOL.
Now with the AA they just charge and kill everything.... It's ********.
Before you go MD troll on me. I just wasted 1,7 miljon sp on AR...... And yeah I use that insted of the MD now..... However the AA makes the gun a joke, no skill needed to use it. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
873
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:00:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:D legendary hero wrote:most of these AR noobs use no tactics. this is why I know (inaddition to all the above) that its OP. in the higher teir corps they always use this combo:
- caldari assault/ logi ADV or PROTO
- GEK or Duvolle
- they stick together in one big mass and just charge every objective head on
- in one v. one situations they do the two-step shuffle
basically they rely on their gear to carry them to victory. since they have the best gear, they assume that anything that kills them as a result of skill or its effective range must be OP. All other weapons and suits when they become proto they just get better at what the weapon is designed to do, and it doesn't extend beyond its purpose parameters. i.e. the HMG at proto still does what an HMG at standard level does, but better. the AR at proto becomes an HMG basically in regards dps, but has better shield vs armor specs and range. the militia AR itself insta-kills people. aim assist is not the problem. aim assist shows that Ars are OP because now everyone can see the dps i was talking about combined with its accuracy. people try to say scramblers are just as good. wrong scramblers have overheat and are single fire weapons. Ascr still do less overall dps compared to milita ARs and its a lvl4 weapon compared to one that requires 0 SP. This is wy they did cry about the MD.... In 1,3 I could hold of a full team in my proto MD. ( high sp on everything ). They just kept on charging head on and got wasted. When they did flank manuvers and **** I got wasted LOL. Now with the AA they just charge and kill everything.... It's ********. Before you go MD troll on me. I just wasted 1,7 miljon sp on AR...... And yeah I use that insted of the MD now..... However the AA makes the gun a joke, no skill needed to use it.
AR = i win button |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
90
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Posted - 2013.09.08 21:44:00 -
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People need to realize that there are other guns in the game besides the AR. I think the gun sucks (even with prof. 3) and switched to the Scrambler. I think what CCP needs to do is make it more of a niche weapon, It is just too good at everything. |
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