i wasn't even aware i fought against you in a pc match. no idea cubs was on the roof, or anything about a tank. i focus on what i do, not worry about who i'm up against, and play my game.

synergy has the best sniper core in the game, there's no doubt about it. That isn't the issue. it has nothing to do with my team. it has nothing to do with the tactics to counter it.

there's tactics to counter the flaylock pistol, but i don't see anyone posting them, instead everyone is whining about them.

how can you sit here and tell me killing someone with 700 ehp in less than two seconds from hundreds of meters away is okay? not even the flaylock pistol can do that.

No, because after the first shot, you can zig-zag to avoid fire, there's no ez-mode no-skill splash damage to save a sniper.

if you manage to one-shot me with a headshot, congratulations, you actually took your time to aim and shoot, you have earned your kill

If you have the best snipers, then they can suppress an enemy heavy on a roof. Otherwise they are not worth being called the best anything.

The only way you are getting killed in less than two seconds with 700 hp is if you get direct hit. Otherwise it takes at least two shots, which takes at least four seconds. How you have not gotten this yet is amazing.

You are right that the flaylock doesn't kill people in 4 seconds, it actually does it much faster.

Do you complain this much when you get killed by the mass driver? Because any tactic you use for dodging MD rounds would work just as well for evading a FG trying to peg you.

What this really boils down to is that you don't like the fact that someone can mess you up from beyond AR range. Whereas if your team had done their job, the guy with the FG never would have gotten up there in the first place.

The fact that Charlotte and I agree means that this thread has officially turned the forum into Bizarro world.

Try reading the thread before you post.

with team support, every dropship is called out and promptly shot out of the sky, OBs like to not work on rooftops, and snipers will have an extremely difficult time killing a heavy who's headglitching a forge gun off the tallest tower on the map.

the fact you actually had an active tank in a match vs TP is amazing enough, let alone the one and a thousand shot to hit someone across the entire map with a railgun. how many people did cubs forge to death before you got a lucky shot on him? 5? 10? 20?

I made a thread like this a few months ago, it got 11 pages, and everyone thought I was trolling.

I'm not.

Forge guns are so hyper accurate they're arguably the best anti-infantry weapon when you have the high ground...huge splash damage and extremely fast re-fire speed, you have maybe 3 seconds to find cover once you take splash damage from a proto forge gun...that is, if you weren't outright one-shotted by the splash damage.

These are AV WEAPONS and SHOULD NOT be able to kill infantry.

They SHOULD NOT function better than sniper rifles as anti infantry.

Splash damage needs to be reduced to almost nothing, the fact you can take out ~400 shields with 1 splash of a good FG puts the flaylock pistol to shame

Please CCP, this forge gun madness has to stop.

here's the 11 page thread if anyone is interested.

When tankers defend forge guns, you know the OP wasn't very bright.

It's a ANTI-MATERIEL gun. Maybe reduce the splash radius a little. But don't make it a "You have to hit it right on" gun.

If it hits you directly on, it should kill you.

RPG's are a anti vehicle gun, but doesn't mean it can't be fired into a group of infantry.

I say leave it alone, its the only gun that works right.

When not firing towards a vehicle, it should gain crazy weird dispersion past medium range.

This keeps it from being used at long range against infantry, but you can still kind of make it work if they're really close; putting you in harms way.

This coming from a forge gunner who thinks this is faaaar too easy, and my controller screws with my aim :/

I made a thread like this a few months ago, it got 11 pages, and everyone thought I was trolling.

I'm not.

Forge guns are so hyper accurate they're arguably the best anti-infantry weapon when you have the high ground...huge splash damage and extremely fast re-fire speed, you have maybe 3 seconds to find cover once you take splash damage from a proto forge gun...that is, if you weren't outright one-shotted by the splash damage.

These are AV WEAPONS and SHOULD NOT be able to kill infantry.

They SHOULD NOT function better than sniper rifles as anti infantry.

Splash damage needs to be reduced to almost nothing, the fact you can take out ~400 shields with 1 splash of a good FG puts the flaylock pistol to shame

Please CCP, this forge gun madness has to stop.

here's the 11 page thread if anyone is interested.

On a point elsewhere in this thread: the argument that splash damage is necessary for LAVs is patently ridiculous, I'm sorry. 330ish splash damage every 2-3 seconds isn't going to make an LAV flinch. The FG only works against them with a direct hit, so nerfing splash damage wouldn't negatively affect the AV aspect at all.

ED: One other way to fix the FG without changing its stats? Make it so the reticule never turns red. Problem fixed.

I made a thread like this a few months ago, it got 11 pages, and everyone thought I was trolling.

I'm not.

Forge guns are so hyper accurate they're arguably the best anti-infantry weapon when you have the high ground...huge splash damage and extremely fast re-fire speed, you have maybe 3 seconds to find cover once you take splash damage from a proto forge gun...that is, if you weren't outright one-shotted by the splash damage.

These are AV WEAPONS and SHOULD NOT be able to kill infantry.

They SHOULD NOT function better than sniper rifles as anti infantry.

Splash damage needs to be reduced to almost nothing, the fact you can take out ~400 shields with 1 splash of a good FG puts the flaylock pistol to shame

Please CCP, this forge gun madness has to stop.

here's the 11 page thread if anyone is interested.

This thread is still up? Forge Guns don't need further tweaks.