Are you high? HARDLY ANY SPLASH DAMAGE? LOL then how is my 550+ sheild protosuit getting killed in two splash hits from a proto FG across the map on the tallest structure in the game?

Its a hybrid weapon it's dealing damage equally around the board. Unless we have 3 AV weapons that only hurt armor which would be a screw up on CCPs part.

Numbers don't lie, nobody else finds it a problem an AV weapon can do 720+ damage worth of SPLASH in a couple of seconds FROM ANY DISTANCE?

AND ITS AN AV WEAPON

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Actually, with the charge up skill reduction, it will take less than 2.5 seconds.

i highly doubt a no name noob is going to give me any trouble in a pub match

your threats are unwarranted, childish, and to be quite honest not very intimidating.

if you were arguing realism with the forge gun, run the numbers on the description, it should instantly atomize anything it touches and keep going. in the name of BALANCE, the forge gun shouldn't be this effective of an anti-infantry weapon.

You're not too bright, are you? Proto assault variant actually charges in LESS than two seconds, so yes, a couple of seconds LOL

how many tanks and dropships have you killed with the SPLASH DAMAGE of a forge gun? probably zero.

with team support, every dropship is called out and promptly shot out of the sky, OBs like to not work on rooftops, and snipers will have an extremely difficult time killing a heavy who's headglitching a forge gun off the tallest tower on the map.

"With Forge Gun Proficiency at level 5, you get a 15% bonus to damage. Throw on two complex heavy damage modifiers and you get another 20%, minus the stacking penalty. For the purposes of this post, I'll lower it to 15% (if someone could give me the actual number, it would be much appreciated). In total, that gives you a 30% damage bonus. Base splash damage for all proto forge guns is 277.2 (advanced and standard tiers have lower splash damage). 277.2 times 1.30 equals 360.36. 2 shots equal 720.72, 3 shots equal 1081.08 and four shots equal 1441.44."

Try reading the thread before you post.

It's only 4 seconds if you know he's there, and you'd be able to avoid it by hiding from him. otherwise he's waiting with a charged shot, and between the travel time, you getting hit, you realize you're getting hit, it's going to be much less than 2 seconds.

On a point elsewhere in this thread: the argument that splash damage is necessary for LAVs is patently ridiculous, I'm sorry. 330ish splash damage every 2-3 seconds isn't going to make an LAV flinch. The FG only works against them with a direct hit, so nerfing splash damage wouldn't negatively affect the AV aspect at all.

ED: One other way to fix the FG without changing its stats? Make it so the reticule never turns red. Problem fixed.

and you'd be hard pressed to find an AR that can take down a heavy in less than 2 seconds from a distance.

lol 3 shots? two splash from a good forge gun will kill almost any suit.

You, just dont know your weapons, the Basic level of damage is not far short of 600, with no mods. So yes in a time period of LESS than 2 seconds 720 would be obtainable in splash damage.

H.D

Yes that correct, partly, One of those weapons is capable of doing 2 shots in less than 2 seconds. so 277.2 X 2 plus the damage mods plus what you get from the forging skills will push it over 700.

Nobody has posted inaccurate information. The charge time is less than two seconds when skilled into and it does more than 700 damage in two splash shots.

the argument has always been forge gun is too strong vs infantry despite how hard everyone has tried to change it.

Which is still a less than 2 second charge time...

You're just re-affirming everything i've been saying..720 in 2 splash hits less than 2 seconds

That's only if you know it's coming..once you get hit, you have under two seconds to somehow scramble into cover. the old laser rifle was the same way, once you were hit with it and realize it's there, you were already dead

not even the flaylock is this bad, i can take three shots just fine, gives me more than enough time to get away from it or kill the guy.

nothing to do with map design. forge gun two shotting people so fast is not acceptable for game balance even if in your mind it takes "4 seconds" when in the majority of the situations it's going to be 2.

it's that kind of thinking that makes things imbalanced, sure the number is 4 seconds on paper, but that's not the case in battle.

how does that two seconds factor in when the people you're shooting don't know they're being targeted? they even removed the huge ball of light from the end of forge guns so it's even harder to tell.

and the flaylock only does 200 splash damage with a 3m blast radius and only a 3 round mag

doesn't sound OP at all on paper right?

you can't balance weapons based on numbers alone.

Where the hell did the tank come from, we're talking about hand held weapons. !