Yes, might as well kill the forge too. The HMG and now the forge guns, while we are at it we might as well cut the heavies shield and armor by half.

I made a thread like this a few months ago, it got 11 pages, and everyone thought I was trolling.

I'm not.

Forge guns are so hyper accurate they're arguably the best anti-infantry weapon when you have the high ground...huge splash damage and extremely fast re-fire speed, you have maybe 3 seconds to find cover once you take splash damage from a proto forge gun...that is, if you weren't outright one-shotted by the splash damage.

These are AV WEAPONS and SHOULD NOT be able to kill infantry.

They SHOULD NOT function better than sniper rifles as anti infantry.

Splash damage needs to be reduced to almost nothing, the fact you can take out ~400 shields with 1 splash of a good FG puts the flaylock pistol to shame

Please CCP, this forge gun madness has to stop.

here's the 11 page thread if anyone is interested.

The fact making the forge gun less effective vs infantry would ruin it when ITS AN ANTI VEHICLE WEAPON proves my point, it's not balanced.

It's an accurate anti-vehicle weapon.

I mean, unless you're intending they do idiotic magic-balance like the Lancer in Planetside 2, which does almost no damage to infantry while hammering vehicles with no explanation or anything, I'm not sure how you're proposing that we nerf accuracy on it without making it less effective at long-range AV, which is what it was designed for.

But it's a better anti infantry weapon than it is an AV weapon

tbh the lancer from planetside 2 isn't a bad idea, so what if you can't explain it with lore? what's more important, GAME BALANCE, or LORE?

But it's a better anti infantry weapon than it is an AV weapon

tbh the lancer from planetside 2 isn't a bad idea, so what if you can't explain it with lore? what's more important, GAME BALANCE, or LORE?

As an anti infantry weapon it requires really good aiming.

As an anti infantry weapon it requires really good aiming.

a. Why shouldn't AV weapons be able to kill infantry?
I just don't see why that would be the case. Swarms, yes, they need to lock and swarm, etc, but the forge gun is a big 'ol railgun, using the same tech as a sniper rifle- of course it damages infantry.
b.
Have you ever tried FG sniping? I'm not saying it's impossible or even extremely difficult, but it does take skill. You get no ADS and the fattest, ugliest reticule ever, which doesn't stay perfectly steady but continuously vibrates slightly. Hitting with a 2.5m splash radius from 200m with a reticle that covers probably a 10+ meter radius is tricky, so while they're technically very accurate, making use of that accuracy is tough.
3 second refire is hardly madness, and don't forget that it's limited to 16 shots without squad support (since no heavies can carry nanohives). A good forge can kill infantry, but it's not easy, and any sort of flank/rush or a missed CQC shot and the FG loses due to the slow refire rate. Plus, the FG lights up like a signal beacon for any snipers/tacs/other FGs, so sniping with it from high ground is a good way to die.

Your QQ holds no water.

But it's a better anti infantry weapon than it is an AV weapon

tbh the lancer from planetside 2 isn't a bad idea, so what if you can't explain it with lore? what's more important, GAME BALANCE, or LORE?

So a gun designed to damage vehicles should not be able to damage a dropsuit? Quit crying, probably just mad you lost a proto suit.

And that's the point.

If you have good aim, you deserve to blap anyone on the map.

The point about the Lancer is that it's very similar to the Forge Gun, but having the skill to hit infantry with it - which isn't easy - is unfairly penalized.

If it was a problem, I think it would show up on these lists:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92678

As it is, it makes sense that something that can punch a tank and make him feel it would one-shot infantry. I've tried using it as anti-infantry in the past, and it's very difficult. If you can chew dropsuits up with it, good for you...you're some combination of very skilled and talented with it. In general, it's not a problem, though.

You give someone a proto forge gun, stick them on a roof with a mouse, and they're going to go 20/0 by killing people with splash damage WHILE USING AN AV WEAPON

tell me that isn't completely stupid.

What are you doing that's getting you forge sniped enough to complain about it? I rarely get hit with a forge gun as infantry, are you standing still with an MD on a roof or something? Getting FG'd sucks, but it doesn't need to be nerfed at all.

Free fire means it's a hybrid of AV and vehicle.

I use the forge gun against everything, and it has its flaws. Sure, a direct hit OHKs, but I have to charge it for what- 2 and a half seconds? In that time you can just run out and kill me.