Signed 100%

I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or **** off. Take your **** somewhere else....

I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..

I want my respec....

People all over the world want stuff man.

Signed 100%

I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or **** off. Take your **** somewhere else....

I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..

I want my respec....

The above covers standard concerns related to unlimited respec (aka all respec that do not have a specific hard cap on total lifetime number). I look forward to your reply regarding the concerns raised in the quoted links.

Cheers,
Cross

Signed 100%

I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or **** off. Take your **** somewhere else....

I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..

I want my respec....

well, signed , btw it do no harm is there ? i don't see any rules about it, just add reset button for some fee , isk or aur , i don't care what others say,
40,000 aur or what ever i do it
400,000isk or what ever i do it

I think when new racial variants of a suit come out, e.g. Heavy, Commando and Scout, players should get back the SP they put into the racial suit that was available before the update. For example, if I had Advanced Amarr Sentinel and Caldari Sentinel was released, I should be refunded the SP I put into Amarr Sentinel to allow me to switch to the Caldari Sentinel.

Signed.

Amen.

No respecs is so boring. And the only tier that matters in this game is proto.

If CCP expects that any more than the 4000 people currently playing this game will be happy with grinding 3 months for every new gun they want to try... yep... GL with your dying game.

At this point... monthly free respecs will actually save this game more than it would ever hurt it. more SP will always be better, as you can spec into multiple items and switch on the fly.

**** the RPG aspects, let this just be a decent FPS.

You're very stupid.

You're very stupid.

No legit information? You actually think that no one gave legit information on why respecs are bad? You are a special kind of ignorant aren't you? Search the damn forums.

The economics.
The data CCP needs for balancing weapons and things.
etc.

These and many others are legit reasons why CCP publicly announced no more respecs. Quit your damn request for more respecs because CCP has already made up their mind about it. No more respecs. Period. People need to get their heads out of their asses.

When is the economy coming? How are you so sure it will be negatively impacted if we don't know anything about it. You're guessing from experience with Eve. However Dust is not Eve, because subscription playerbase is completely different from free to play playerbase.

Data is always better when derived from a larger source. If more players have the ability to spec into possible counters to popular set ups. While not being punished if testing proves a counter to be less effective in practice then on paper. They will be more likely to try new set ups out. Players chase the flavor of the month because they know it's good, and because experiementing is faced with HTFU and Welcome to New Eden. Either way I hate to break it to you because the data used to balance the game comes mostly from Dev testing. They used Dev account with unlimited SP and ISK.

Personally I think you've afraid of having to make good on your threat to quit both Dust and Eve if respecs are made part of the game more then anything else.

Play a PC match against imperfects or hellstorm. Would like to see you go positive in advanced gear.

In a competitive pvp setting, the best gear is always the only relevant gear.

If I wanna change from an AR build to a shotgun build I need proto kin cats, cardiac regs, and at least prof 3 in shotguns before you would even stand a chance.

Thats a good 3-4 million SP before you could even be allowed to use that build in PC. 4 million SP is 2 months boosted and 3 months unboosted.

Not to mention, if you want even decent infantry skills, you'll never be able to actually use vehicles to their true potential.

All this SP system is doing is locking you out of content they have spent time and money creating. Its essentially saying, pick one build and that's all you will be able to use for the next 8 months until it is maxed and you can start to diversify a little bit.

Nobody cares anymore... it sounded cool at first.. but really.. it just makes the game feel like a monotonous grind.

So you'd rather no decision in this game mean anything, and everyone just not care about making mistakes because they can just Respec them away? Not to mention how (When we get integrated) this will effect EvE players, then they'll want respecs willy-nilly and there goes the persistance. Immediately the economy idea is gone, because people will only get one type of gear (The FoTM) and implementing an economy would just cause it to be...Not, since everything except one set of things will be cheap. Not to mention the assassination of enjoyability. So you have the FoTM, and you start to win, but you're running into the same fights again and again, no diversity, no choice, no change. Yeah, random respecs. Great idea. Truly man.

My mind is already made up and so is CCP's on this. How many times do we have to remind everyone that CCP announced that there will be no more respecs barring any catastrophic event?

By the way, I'm not afraid to make good on my threat. I will quit DUST and Eve Online as well if CCP implements optional respecs because then they will have effectively violated their core principle that they publicly established as a company and that they would be coming across as just another greedy company that went back on its word of no more respecs. Don't forget that Eve players have much greater leverage on CCP's decisions than DUST players do. We are their primary source of income after all and we are not afraid to start another Jita riot if we have to.

This game is not in beta anymore, but they bloody well treat it like it is. Skills are an investment in time. When you make huge changes, you are basically sh**ing on someone's investment and time spent. In this case, their customers time.

So you'd rather no decision in this game mean anything, and everyone just not care about making mistakes because they can just Respec them away? Not to mention how (When we get integrated) this will effect EvE players, then they'll want respecs willy-nilly and there goes the persistance. Immediately the economy idea is gone, because people will only get one type of gear (The FoTM) and implementing an economy would just cause it to be...Not, since everything except one set of things will be cheap. Not to mention the assassination of enjoyability. So you have the FoTM, and you start to win, but you're running into the same fights again and again, no diversity, no choice, no change. Yeah, random respecs. Great idea. Truly man.

For those looking for a respec, I can make a deal with you. Send me 10 million ISK and I will make sure CCP sends you the respec. This is not a scam.

After everything is in it might be a good idea.

dunno about that but after core content surely.

After everything is in it might be a good idea.

Everything will never be in.

The core content is already in, and they already had a respec.

After everything is in it might be a good idea.

So Winmatar heavy skill is in? where is it willing to pay 2 mil for it

Haha more of this silly concept of SP respecs. You must be a special kind of stupid to think the CCP will give out another respec just because you hate your build and want the 'flavor of the month/week'.

They already stated that it won't happen. Get over it.

This game is about consequences to the choices and actions you all make just like in EvE because, guess what. This is an EvE game to.

You made your bed. Now lie in it or grind like I am doing.

Again, how did you determine Miny Heavies as "core" content? How do you differeciate "core" from "non-core" in such a way that it prevents future players from having the same problem you have now without making respecs a commonplace?

Again, how did you determine Miny Heavies as "core" content? How do you differentiate "core" from "non-core" in such a way that it prevents future players from having the same problem you have now without making respecs a commonplace?

I HAVE to spec amarr to play heavy, how is that a choice? Militia for the next year by your standards that'll keep people coming back...

How about you buy some boosters then on the market if you're SO keen to get there asap? Really, get over yourself as there are plenty of people in the same situation but harden up and do the SP grind because in the end, it will be worth it.

I'll be building up the SP when CCP releases heavy shield suits AND I'll work on the heavy weapons. Until then I'll be improving my CPU/Powergrid, shields, AR etc etc.

Don't like it? quit.

How would you not consider all racial variants of the basic frame to not be core? I can see specializations not going with that logic, but every race should have it's entry for the basic suits.

Will MTACS be "specializations" in your opinion and if yes, why? Aren't MTACS, jets and whatever new stuff we get in the next years going to be the "core" stuff for some players just as the various suits, HAVs and DSs are for you right now?

You either won't solve the central issue you pretend to address ( the fact that some people can not train the stuff they want) for anyone but those playing right now (read: you) or effectively demand respecs every few months.

I find both unacceptable. I will not condone respecs now just so that others will make the same demand a little later. I will not accept regular respecs for reasons that have been exhausted countless times.

So you dont play Heavy now then i take it? So in other words you are giving yourself options. HMM must be nice since you go tthe suit you wanted already

edit: I don't need to quit its F2P im not buying more aurem unless i get my respec (FOR ONLY SP SPENT IN HEAVY SUITS) how you like them apples hardass :P

Umm 4 races of Light, medium, and heavy suits. Again Medium Frame guys not getting it because they have all their stuff...

Haha more of this silly concept of SP respecs. You must be a special kind of stupid to think the CCP will give out another respec just because you hate your build and want the 'flavor of the month/week'.

They already stated that it won't happen. Get over it.

This game is about consequences to the choices and actions you all make just like in EvE because, guess what. This is an EvE game to.

You made your bed. Now lie in it or grind like I am doing.

Actually I bought the Elite pack, some BPOs on the market and tested all the build I wanted then decided on what I wanted.

You're not answering my question i'm afraid so let me rephrase it: How is it fair that you get your respec to your favourite heavy variant and at the same time the next KOBLAKA1 will not be allowed to respec into his favourite MTAC variant in a year or so.

The issue is the same in both cases. You would have to tell the next KOBLAKA1 to HTFU just as we keep telling you now. You will have gotten what you wanted by that time, just as i have now.

Why is this fair?

MTACs equal no because there are no variants out already. There is a hevay variant amarr.

edit: I also only condone the SP in Heavy Suits be refunded everything else should stay put. IE Core upgrades and shield extension DO NOT get refunded. ]

Will MTACS be "specializations" in your opinion and if yes, why? Aren't MTACS, jets and whatever new stuff we get in the next years going to be the "core" stuff for some players just as the various suits, HAVs and DSs are for you right now?

You either won't solve the central issue you pretend to address ( the fact that some people can not train the stuff they want) for anyone but those playing right now (read: you) or effectively demand respecs every few months.

I find both unacceptable. I will not condone respecs now just so that others will make the same demand a little later. I will not accept regular respecs for reasons that have been exhausted countless times.

I already answered this.

I can tell you right now that the players that will face the same issue as you do currently will not care a bit about the fact that MTACS where not released by the time the last respec will have been granted and gone. Especially since the only difference between "get's a respec" and "get's no respec" is just the time it got released. From the future player's viewpoint, the situation will be just the same unless CCP actually manages to release content racially symmetrical from now on and i'm pretty sure this is not going to happen.

Limiting it to the tree in question is helpfull, i agree. That's not my issue right now though.

I can tell you right now that the players that will face the same issue as you do currently will not care a bit about the fact that MTACS where not released by the time the last respec will have been granted and gone. Especially since the only difference between "get's a respec" and "get's no respec" is just the time it got released. From the future player's viewpoint, the situation will be just the same unless CCP actually manages to release content racially symmetrical from now on and i'm pretty sure this is not going to happen.

Limiting it to the tree in question is helpfull, i agree. That's not my issue right now though.

That's getting hyperbolic, but actually, yes. I'd like to see the base versions of each vehicle and dropsuit size introduced (MTACS are hav specs though, so no, they don't qualify), then a single respec. The weapon tree becomes abit to extensive to wait for and we don't want this becoming habitual.

No, there is a big misunderstanding here. Core content isn't defined by what people want to play. It's the base set of options from which all the others are built. Just because I run assault doesn't make that the base medium suit. That is what the medium frames are for.

I've never asked for or advocated regular respecs, just the prioritization of certain base game elements and a final respec to allow people to play their style without excess waste or just doing nothing with their skills for an indefinite period of time.

no respecs,. no way

In new eden you "grow" your toon like a plant. Get used to it,..

no respecs,. no way

In new eden you "grow" your toon like a plant. Get used to it,..

This game is dying, get used to it.

too bad i was forced on what seeds to use, must be nice having options in your medium frame

you better run then, I see a healthy game, im having fun.. lawl

I am having fun too, but the numbers speak for themselves, it is very far from being a "healthy" game. Maybe CCP can continue to work on this title due to fundings received from eve (about 30,000 players connected at any given time vs. about 4,000 for dust) but any other shooters doing as poorly would had died already... and this is not something to be proud of.

there is just to many games on pc with less then 3k players doing really well, so numbers dont meen much..

I never have to wait to play, I almost never see the same people. the game is alive from the perspective of someone who plays every second day.

Signed 100%

I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or **** off. Take your **** somewhere else....

I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..

I want my respec....

Well guess what?................................................................................................................................................you're not getting it.

So great, you play every second day and can earn ton of SP to spec into things you want... but there are people who live in a grown up world with full time jobs and families to take care of who do not have the luxury to put much more than 2-3 hours a week of gameplay at times... why should they be punished from enjoying the game because it takes them half a year to spec into anything new? this is why a respec system is needed... "hey I'd like to try that new commando suit, but too bad it's going to take me half a year to get it"... in the meanwhile someone like this will get tired of the grind when they get a chance to play, and will look somewhere else for a more gratifying gaming experience. the biggest purpose of Dust is to bring more mainstream players into the world of New Eden(the devs have said so themselves)... the way it's setup right now prevents just that... I am being honest when I say i have friends who turned away from Dust saying it was too complicated or too hard to get into.

your not forced, you made that bed now sleep in it..

/edit I use scout btw,. 100% of the time.

I don't think "infinite" respecs is a good idea. However, I don't see no respecs as good either....
When I started I put that suit skill to 4 (you know the one/ the skill that does nothing past 3)- i didn't realize so a few wasted points there. Not a big deal but why does it even go past 3 if it does nothing past 3? Maybe someday 4 and 5 will have meaning, but for now they don't.

What's the big deal really? Why not allow (even just one) respecs in some form. It could range from aur, isk paid, to free but only x per year, to even reducing total sp by a percent (say 10% sp loss per respec). Or some combination not mentioned...

My point remains though. There's ways to do this to reduce the fotm risk to near zero. It would help player retention, make the game more interesting, and could be an additional revenue source for ccp. I just don't see the downside here.

I don't think "infinite" respecs is a good idea. However, I don't see no respecs as good either....
When I started I put that suit skill to 4 (you know the one/ the skill that does nothing past 3)- i didn't realize so a few wasted points there. Not a big deal but why does it even go past 3 if it does nothing past 3? Maybe someday 4 and 5 will have meaning, but for now they don't.

What's the big deal really? Why not allow (even just one) respecs in some form. It could range from aur, isk paid, to free but only x per year, to even reducing total sp by a percent (say 10% sp loss per respec). Or some combination not mentioned...

My point remains though. There's ways to do this to reduce the fotm risk to near zero. It would help player retention, make the game more interesting, and could be an additional revenue source for ccp. I just don't see the downside here.

*Updated Racial content- Rifles/Suits/vehicles (Heavy, Scout, LAV, HAV, dropship)
Not new stuff like commando suits/pilot suits

I really hope CCP doesn't listen to the Eve nerds on this.

The game is really shaping up nicely. Respecs will keep the game fresh for people.

I love my skills exactly where they are. I use a skill planner to track my skill path.

But what if I get bored? What if skilling into a totally different role would lead me to continue playing?

I WANT to see people stick around. I want 20 or 30 thousand players online battling it out for territory throughout New Eden.

Wanting people to suck it up and grind for 2 months to find some enjoyment in the game is a line of thinking I'll never understand.

Things like respecs is what gave MAG so much replayability. That and switching corps, still loved valor most. Instead of being stuck with 1 class for life with a high grinding crub you could respec into something completely different for a whole new experience.

Seriously dude? I just posted links to a number of well versed reasons why respecs are bad; in that other thread on the same subject that you posted in, yet you keep insisting that no one gives legit information?

In case you're just blind rather than dishonest i'll post it here again for you.

I could really care less about post that contain reasons we shouldn't get a respec. Hopefully you understand that some of us have over 10mil skill points, and we already put it into stuff, and on there hand, CCP continues to put out other game changing content, not only that, they dont even have heavy racial dropsuits, no rail, and combat rifle, what the hell am I supposed to do if I dont have enough to get their new ****.... HAH take another 4-5 months and continue to pay this game for passive and active boosters, nah... Im done with that ****.

Signed, a final respec after they will add all the missing stuff (Heavies, missing rifles etc)

Signed.

Only when they release everything this should be done.
Thats all vehicles,Drop suits...ECT

Would suck to have 10mill sp on something you dont want to be because they didn't release the gear you want

I got news for you, this skill system is made for the working man, a few hours every other day and we reach the cap. WE dont even have to play

next time post some background music I might have more empathy next time.

I really hope CCP doesn't listen to the Eve nerds on this.

The game is really shaping up nicely. Respecs will keep the game fresh for people.

I love my skills exactly where they are. I use a skill planner to track my skill path.

But what if I get bored? What if skilling into a totally different role would lead me to continue playing?

I WANT to see people stick around. I want 20 or 30 thousand players online battling it out for territory throughout New Eden.

Wanting people to suck it up and grind for 2 months to find some enjoyment in the game is a line of thinking I'll never understand.

[SUGGESTION] Skillback booster https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86041&find=unread
Update: An intriguing idea that the dev team will discuss further.

Signed.

This needs to be an option, make it cost isk, make it cost aur, make it cost $10, I don't care just make it happen! +1

Or

Signed.

This seems more practical.

practical as it might be it would be bad for people playing with ISK. The only people benefiting from this is the people who pay actual money. This would make the game more "flavor of the month" and P2W then anything else on here.

Oh and before anyone brings up the player market balancing it out. Someone remind where this magical player market is first.

"No respecs! This is eve! Htfu or Gtfo!"

Never have i seen a community this stupid in an online game. All respecs will do is add life to the game. people won't spec into the fotm because they won't be forced to by design. But no. all the evetards defending this bs specced into something they are happy with, and they want to be the only ones to enjoy the game.

I'm ashamed to be associated with you pricks, and i will drive as many people away from this pile of manure as i can, because you assholes ruined what could have been the defining fps on ps3.

Signed.

AGREED +1

Ruin? Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, in Eve. Many people said the same thing about Eve. Ten years later and we are still around. You should know that already considering you are in D-Uni where we made it clear that how we are as the inhabitants of New Eden is the norm. Many people still don't like Eve mainly because of the asshatery that goes on and the fact that people can do immoral things yet get away with it.

And let's not forget that some Eve players still demand CCP to implement respecs to this day after 10 years and CCP has been ignoring those selfish carebears ever since.

Pardon me for coming across as an ******* to you, but you are entering New Eden. Therefore you must follow the rules like everyone else has for ten years.

What is so terrible about speccing into a new SECOND skill the old fashioned way: by working for it and EARNING it? Where's the sense of accomplishment from having a new set of fully maxxed out skills handed to you on a silver platter?

You respec guys just want a whole new set of skills handed to you, swapped-in in place of your old skills, because you just don't want to have to put in the time and effort to actually earn them.

You hide behind excuses like "it'll help retain bored players" or claim it's for the good of the game but, in reality, your motives are purely selfish: you're just lazy.

Anything worth having is worth working for.

Ok then. New eden isn't for me. I'm leaving. And i won't look back.

But remember this, *******, WE ARE NOT EVETARDS! Most of the people that play dust play for fun,and that fun lasts about a month before they realize their sutck in their specialty! us "console kids" could care less about whether or not our choices matter! And besides, most ofus only play this crap because its free. we have no commitment to the game. there's nothing keeping us here. have fun with your t- 2000 player count.

This is fine in games like dragon quest or pokemon, where the difference between a beginner and a vet are colossal, but the bonuses these skills give are NOT worth the massive amount of time required to get them. Except sheilds. Those should take a lot longer to get.

Fine...

$50,000 USD
In Cash (no check or credit)
Personally delivered to CCP headquarters.
You pay for travel expenses.
Wait 6 months for processing.
For One Respec.

Don't be stupid respecing is something common in every kind of rpg related game and not all of us spam them, I myself have never had one, I emailed CCP months ago and was skipped over for the respec last month. But instead of throwing a tantrum I'm just being realistic. If CCP was smart they'd implement features that actually, and this is the really super hard really complex part, makes them MONEY! OMG wow crazy concept.

Don't be stupid respecing is something common in every kind of rpg related game and not all of us spam them, I myself have never had one, I emailed CCP months ago and was skipped over for the respec last month. But instead of throwing a tantrum I'm just being realistic. If CCP was smart they'd implement features that actually, and this is the really super hard really complex part, makes them MONEY! OMG wow crazy concept.

Signed 100%

I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or **** off. Take your **** somewhere else....

I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..

I want my respec....

Anyone who asks for a respec EVER is entirely missing the point of this kind of skill system. You have unlimited SP, no skill locks you out of other skills.

This isn't a game where you make 1 build and respec every time something alters it effectiveness. If you want a new build then earn the SP and spec into it. People should be able to entirely remap their characters every time CCP farts. Especially not people with 10 million SP. Suck it up buttercup.

Don't be stupid respecing is something common in every kind of rpg related game and not all of us spam them, I myself have never had one, I emailed CCP months ago and was skipped over for the respec last month. But instead of throwing a tantrum I'm just being realistic. If CCP was smart they'd implement features that actually, and this is the really super hard really complex part, makes them MONEY! OMG wow crazy concept.

THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE.

THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE.

The ONLY logical explanation I've seen from people is that they believe people will flock to whatever is OP after a rebalance.

I don't see it that way. There are some things that are just plain bad and don't get addressed in a timely manner because they are busy working on other things.

Could you imagine being spec'd into laser rifles or assault dropshits right now?

To expect people to stick with this game if they aren't enjoying it is, well.... stupid.

To WANT people to go through that is, well... dickish

THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE.

The ONLY logical explanation I've seen from people is that they believe people will flock to whatever is OP after a rebalance.

I don't see it that way. There are some things that are just plain bad and don't get addressed in a timely manner because they are busy working on other things.

Could you imagine being spec'd into laser rifles or assault dropshits right now?

To expect people to stick with this game if they aren't enjoying it is, well.... stupid.

To WANT people to go through that is, well... dickish

CCP will give more respecs in the future because well their track record of Fu*king Sh*t up beyond repair is well ummmm..........
not so great.

Anyway I am just bored in my current roll and this game is just not that great for me to start all over again in a new roll.

I do not spend any money on boosters and never will.

If CCP gave me an option to respec for Aur I would spend the money to do so, because it would be like playing a whole new game.

In the mean time meh, broke game is broke game.

THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE.

Actually yes, it kind of is. Skill system, currencies, loss of assets upon death, fitting system, learning implants (boosters)...

Yeah, this pretty much is eve on the ground.

Meta game. Don't forget meta game and AWOXing.

This game needs a repsec option at all times, CCP could charge aurum for it. It keeps the game fresh so u are not stuck in one class. Dust ATM the moment is a lobby shooter, having the option to try out diff classes will be good for players and it's another form of revenue for CCP.

It's a win win in my book.

Once again, you are forgetting that CCP already confirmed that there are no more respecs in the future. They have already made up their mind on this. It's just not going to happen so I see no point in this discussion if CCP is not going to hand out more respecs.

This.

Who needs PvE, stable servers, proper hit detection, full racial variants, a variety of game modes, actual meaning to your choices, relative balance between weapons and dropsuits, clear roles for dropsuits, proper reward systems, functioning vehicles.

Thank God we have kids who AFK in other peoples game.

WOO META!!

Because Meta game and in game improvements/content updates are mutually exclusive right?

They never said they wouldn't charge for it. If they don't charge for respecs via aurum, then CCP is dummer than i thought. Respec option would be a great stream of revenue. It also would calm down the QQ if something was over nerfed. That respec option would allow you to spec into something while CCP fixed whatever they broke.

I guess CCP doesn't like to make money.

I'm just saying it's pretty sad to use Metagame as any form of justification for anything when we haven't even gone into official release yet.

Yes and No.


Yes because there has been a lot of changes lately but it shouldn't be free. If anything they should charge like 20k Aur to do a 1 time respec.

They can treat it like the omega boosters, when they need a cash injection offer this up. 20k respec token.

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You should take care when choosing skills and not spewge your points all over the place. Can't decide? Let me help you.
Place all of them in core skills like, Engineering, armor + shields. Allows you to maximize your PG + CPU + armor and shields. That is something everyone should learn.

Too many causes FOTM builds or FOTB (build) fits\



Personally id buy a 20k aur respec token.

I'm just saying it's pretty sad to use Metagame as any form of justification for anything when we haven't even gone into official release yet.

Once again, you are forgetting that CCP already confirmed that there are no more respecs in the future. They have already made up their mind on this. It's just not going to happen so I see no point in this discussion if CCP is not going to hand out more respecs.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&p=3

If you look at the post from 7/4 on page 3 you'll notice Skill Back Boosters are going to be further discussed by the Dev Team. CCP doesn't seem to be as straight up "no" to respec as you think. Also just because you're tired of telling people "no", and are threating to quit both Eve Online and Dust if some form of respecs are added doesn't mean players can't have a discussion about respecs. This is after all a forum mention for discussion.

They never said they wouldn't charge for it

If they don't charge for respecs via aurum, then CCP is dummer than i thought.

I guess CCP doesn't like to make money.

Posted at 17.05.2013 17:04 by GM Grave
Hello,

This response is being sent to all users who have filed a support ticket in order to request a skill respec.

We would like to acknowledge receipt of your skill respect request and inform you that we have now flagged your account for a skill respec .

The skill respec will be applied to your characters in the coming days once we have completed and deployed changes to the skill tree. This one time respec will remove and refund all ISK and skill points that have been applied to date. Please ensure that due care is taken when spending skills and ISK as we will be unable to reverse ISK/SP spending in future.

If you wish to discuss issues that have not been addressed in this skill respec response, or believe you have received this message in error then please respond to this support ticket and we will attempt to address your issue.

Please accept my sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Please note that if you are receiving this message you are currently in a queue for a skill respec. Eligible customers who may have been misfiled and would like to request an Aurum account reset should respond to this ticket clarifying their request.

Regards,
Lead GM Grave
CCP Customer Relations | EVE Online | DUST 514

Filed at 03.07.2013 21:59 by Jathniel

I appreciate your prompt response. I am requesting a skill respec. The SP event is near, and I would like to be able to make the most of it. :(

Posted at 04.07.2013 05:04 by Jathniel
Well, the truth is... I received a 2nd respec by accident...
Instead of reporting it, I consumed the SP in a bad way, and broke the game for myself. :(
You can check your logs and see this for yourself if you wish. I would simply like a final respec, so as to undo the damage done by the accidental 2nd respec. The game has gotten quite unbearable for me.



Posted at 04.07.2013 05:06 by Jathniel
It was a very big mistake on both of our parts. I was told, that I would NOT receive a 2nd respec, but I still did. I'm sorry about this. :'(



Posted at 04.07.2013 14:58 by GM Vegas
Hi,

Thank you for contacting us.

Unfortunately we are unable to perform any further character respec because the deadline for the request was the 31st of May, as pointed out in the DEV blog http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/05/optional-skill-respecs-available-for-a-limited-time/ and linked in the forum topic https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77103.

I apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Regards,

GM Vegas

Posted at 04.07.2013 19:18 by Jathniel
Well, what I'm saying is that I received a 2nd respec by accident.
Instead of reporting it, I made the mistake of using that SP.
Then as of July 2, the skills I skilled into were radically changed by developers.
This makes my fit miserable to use.
I'm simply asking for a respec to correct the damage that I brought on myself, and that CCP enabled.
The point is, I was never supposed to receive a 2nd respec to begin with.

I would like one final respec to undo the damage of the 2nd one.

Posted at 04.07.2013 19:20 by GM Vegas
Hello,

Thanks for your email and for providing more information.

I am afraid no further respec is possible, no matter the reason.

I do apologise once again for the inconvenience.

Regards,

GM Vegas



Posted at 04.07.2013 23:10 by Jathniel
CCP gave me a second respec by accident.
CCP did, not me.
We BOTH made a big mistake here.

CCP for giving me the 2nd respec, and myself for using it improperly.
(Although it was not used improperly until serious game changes were made.)
There is no need to apologize for an inconvenience that can be easily rectified.

Continuing to play this game, is not an option for me if I can't get this fixed.
Please.

Respectfully.

Signed 100%

I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..

I want my respec....

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&p=3

If you look at the post from 7/4 on page 3 you'll notice Skill Back Boosters are going to be further discussed by the Dev Team. CCP doesn't seem to be as straight up "no" to respec as you think. Also just because you're tired of telling people "no", and are threating to quit both Eve Online and Dust if some form of respecs are added doesn't mean players can't have a discussion about respecs. This is after all a forum mention for discussion.

Good man.

Hmm. After putting some careful thought on this, this may not be a bad idea. Since it's passive and slowly pulls SP from a skill over time and thus isn't exploitable, I can see this going places. On top of that, I like the idea that it also disables the regular passive gain.

Congrats,

Source:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1009985#post1009985



You made the list.

That's different. The SP is slowly and passively going back to unallocated while the regular passive gain is disabled. It still requires a long time to wait. This is different from your typical respec which just simply allows you to swap everything at once. The one being looked at by CCP sounds far more practical than what you guys keep demanding.

I work for a wall street company, it would be silly for Sony and CCP not to explore this market for revenue. Free respec hell no 50,000 aurum points for a respec hell yes. That's 2 PSN cards at $20 a piece. You can get 40,000 aurum points for $19.99.

So that's 80,000 aurum points 50,000 of that goes to my respec leaves me with 30,000 to have fun with.
Again everyone wins in this situation. Sony & CCP gains a new stream of revenue and we the players get to have more FUN playing Dust.

CCP make this happen it's money in the bank.