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silid 514
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:10:00 -
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Major Lee High
Battle Response Organizations
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:28:00 -
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
935
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:31:00 -
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Another one!? Seriously!!!!! Get a clue will you please? There will never be 'after all new content', there will always BE new content until the game goes offline in however many years. Please, for the love of moderately priced chicken STOP being one of those people wanting respects AGAIN! Next people will be wanting aurum refunds. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3042
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:39:00 -
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Nix Vulken wrote:This needs to be an option, make it cost isk, make it cost aur, make it cost $10, I don't care just make it happen! +1
Fine...
$50,000 USD In Cash (no check or credit) Personally delivered to CCP headquarters. You pay for travel expenses. Wait 6 months for processing. For One Respec. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3042
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:40:00 -
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This seems more practical. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
239
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:47:00 -
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signed |
The legend345
0uter.Heaven
198
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:14:00 -
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signed |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2217
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:15:00 -
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Sign me up |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
85
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:24:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:This seems more practical.
practical as it might be it would be bad for people playing with ISK. The only people benefiting from this is the people who pay actual money. This would make the game more "flavor of the month" and P2W then anything else on here.
Oh and before anyone brings up the player market balancing it out. Someone remind where this magical player market is first. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3043
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:33:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:This seems more practical. practical as it might be it would be bad for people playing with ISK. The only people benefiting from this is the people who pay actual money. This would make the game more "flavor of the month" and P2W then anything else on here. Oh and before anyone brings up the player market balancing it out. Someone remind where this magical player market is first.
The player market is coming in the future. I would say either Christmas of this year or early next year at the most. Once that comes in, players with ISK will be able to buy second-hand AUR items from other players looking to make ISK selling AUR items. Just like the vanity items or PLEX in Eve. Although I hope to god that the market comes in before the skillback booster.
EDIT:
Remember that we already have the ability to transfer ISK between players. If we even get a basic trade window, that will open up endless possibilities. |
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Draco Dustflier
DUST University Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:56:00 -
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"No respecs! This is eve! Htfu or Gtfo!"
Never have i seen a community this stupid in an online game. All respecs will do is add life to the game. people won't spec into the fotm because they won't be forced to by design. But no. all the evetards defending this bs specced into something they are happy with, and they want to be the only ones to enjoy the game.
I'm ashamed to be associated with you pricks, and i will drive as many people away from this pile of manure as i can, because you assholes ruined what could have been the defining fps on ps3. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3044
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:04:00 -
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Draco Dustflier wrote:"No respecs! This is eve! Htfu or Gtfo!"
Never have i seen a community this stupid in an online game. All respecs will do is add life to the game. people won't spec into the fotm because they won't be forced to by design. But no. all the evetards defending this bs specced into something they are happy with, and they want to be the only ones to enjoy the game.
I'm ashamed to be associated with you pricks, and i will drive as many people away from this pile of manure as i can, because you assholes ruined what could have been the defining fps on ps3.
Ruin? Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, in Eve. Many people said the same thing about Eve. Ten years later and we are still around. You should know that already considering you are in D-Uni where we made it clear that how we are as the inhabitants of New Eden is the norm. Many people still don't like Eve mainly because of the asshatery that goes on and the fact that people can do immoral things yet get away with it.
And let's not forget that some Eve players still demand CCP to implement respecs to this day after 10 years and CCP has been ignoring those selfish carebears ever since.
Pardon me for coming across as an ******* to you, but you are entering New Eden. Therefore you must follow the rules like everyone else has for ten years. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
160
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:05:00 -
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AGREED +1 |
Miokai Zahou
Film Actors Guilds
2
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:33:00 -
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DISAGREED - 2 |
Shane Darko
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
72
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:53:00 -
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Disagreed. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
94
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:01:00 -
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What is so terrible about speccing into a new SECOND skill the old fashioned way: by working for it and EARNING it? Where's the sense of accomplishment from having a new set of fully maxxed out skills handed to you on a silver platter?
You respec guys just want a whole new set of skills handed to you, swapped-in in place of your old skills, because you just don't want to have to put in the time and effort to actually earn them.
You hide behind excuses like "it'll help retain bored players" or claim it's for the good of the game but, in reality, your motives are purely selfish: you're just lazy.
Anything worth having is worth working for. |
Draco Dustflier
DUST University Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:17:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Draco Dustflier wrote:"No respecs! This is eve! Htfu or Gtfo!"
Never have i seen a community this stupid in an online game. All respecs will do is add life to the game. people won't spec into the fotm because they won't be forced to by design. But no. all the evetards defending this bs specced into something they are happy with, and they want to be the only ones to enjoy the game.
I'm ashamed to be associated with you pricks, and i will drive as many people away from this pile of manure as i can, because you assholes ruined what could have been the defining fps on ps3. Ruin? Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, in Eve. Many people said the same thing about Eve. Ten years later and we are still around. You should know that already considering you are in D-Uni where we made it clear that how we are as the inhabitants of New Eden is the norm. Many people still don't like Eve mainly because of the asshatery that goes on and the fact that people can do immoral things yet get away with it. And let's not forget that some Eve players still demand CCP to implement respecs to this day after 10 years and CCP has been ignoring those selfish carebears ever since. Pardon me for coming across as an ******* to you, but you are entering New Eden. Therefore you must follow the rules like everyone else has for ten years.
Ok then. New eden isn't for me. I'm leaving. And i won't look back.
But remember this, *******, WE ARE NOT EVETARDS! Most of the people that play dust play for fun,and that fun lasts about a month before they realize their sutck in their specialty! us "console kids" could care less about whether or not our choices matter! And besides, most ofus only play this crap because its free. we have no commitment to the game. there's nothing keeping us here. have fun with your t- 2000 player count. |
Draco Dustflier
DUST University Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:21:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:What is so terrible about speccing into a new SECOND skill the old fashioned way: by working for it and EARNING it? Where's the sense of accomplishment from having a new set of fully maxxed out skills handed to you on a silver platter?
You respec guys just want a whole new set of skills handed to you, swapped-in in place of your old skills, because you just don't want to have to put in the time and effort to actually earn them.
You hide behind excuses like "it'll help retain bored players" or claim it's for the good of the game but, in reality, your motives are purely selfish: you're just lazy.
Anything worth having is worth working for.
This is fine in games like dragon quest or pokemon, where the difference between a beginner and a vet are colossal, but the bonuses these skills give are NOT worth the massive amount of time required to get them. Except sheilds. Those should take a lot longer to get. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
523
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:26:00 -
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Draco Dustflier wrote: Ok then. New eden isn't for me. I'm leaving. And i won't look back.
That's the part where you seem mature and reasonable.That i highly respect
Draco Dustflier wrote: But remember this, *******, WE ARE NOT EVETARDS! Most of the people that play dust play for fun,and that fun lasts about a month before they realize their sutck in their specialty! us "console kids" could care less about whether or not our choices matter! And besides, most ofus only play this crap because its free. we have no commitment to the game. there's nothing keeping us here. have fun with your t- 2000 player count.
That's the part where you resort to name calling and sweeping generalizations of both eve and "console players" (as if there's just one kind of them) to threaten CCP and players who disagree with you. To that i would reply: "good riddence".
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Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
95
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:39:00 -
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Draco Dustflier wrote:Jaqen Morghalis wrote:What is so terrible about speccing into a new SECOND skill the old fashioned way: by working for it and EARNING it? Where's the sense of accomplishment from having a new set of fully maxxed out skills handed to you on a silver platter?
You respec guys just want a whole new set of skills handed to you, swapped-in in place of your old skills, because you just don't want to have to put in the time and effort to actually earn them.
You hide behind excuses like "it'll help retain bored players" or claim it's for the good of the game but, in reality, your motives are purely selfish: you're just lazy.
Anything worth having is worth working for. This is fine in games like dragon quest or pokemon, where the difference between a beginner and a vet are colossal, but the bonuses these skills give are NOT worth the massive amount of time required to get them. Except sheilds. Those should take a lot longer to get.
So, there's not a huge difference between a new player in Militia gear, and an experienced vet in full Proto gear?
If you want new skills, stop whining that it takes too long, or it's too much work, put on your big-boy pants and EARN them. Maybe the hard work and effort will help you to appreciate them more, when you finally do get them. |
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Nix Vulken
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Nix Vulken wrote:This needs to be an option, make it cost isk, make it cost aur, make it cost $10, I don't care just make it happen! +1 Fine... $50,000 USD In Cash (no check or credit) Personally delivered to CCP headquarters. You pay for travel expenses. Wait 6 months for processing. For One Respec.
Don't be stupid respecing is something common in every kind of rpg related game and not all of us spam them, I myself have never had one, I emailed CCP months ago and was skipped over for the respec last month. But instead of throwing a tantrum I'm just being realistic. If CCP was smart they'd implement features that actually, and this is the really super hard really complex part, makes them MONEY! OMG wow crazy concept. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
523
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:57:00 -
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Nix Vulken wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Nix Vulken wrote:This needs to be an option, make it cost isk, make it cost aur, make it cost $10, I don't care just make it happen! +1 Fine... $50,000 USD In Cash (no check or credit) Personally delivered to CCP headquarters. You pay for travel expenses. Wait 6 months for processing. For One Respec. Don't be stupid respecing is something common in every kind of rpg related game and not all of us spam them, I myself have never had one, I emailed CCP months ago and was skipped over for the respec last month. But instead of throwing a tantrum I'm just being realistic. If CCP was smart they'd implement features that actually, and this is the really super hard really complex part, makes them MONEY! OMG wow crazy concept. Vets will stop buying boosters when they can respec instantly instead of over he course of weeks/months.
Gratulations, you just cannibalized one revenue stream with another. Net gain: Zero, likely negative in the long run.
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Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
96
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:00:00 -
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Nix Vulken wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Nix Vulken wrote:This needs to be an option, make it cost isk, make it cost aur, make it cost $10, I don't care just make it happen! +1 Fine... $50,000 USD In Cash (no check or credit) Personally delivered to CCP headquarters. You pay for travel expenses. Wait 6 months for processing. For One Respec. Don't be stupid respecing is something common in every kind of rpg related game and not all of us spam them, I myself have never had one, I emailed CCP months ago and was skipped over for the respec last month. But instead of throwing a tantrum I'm just being realistic. If CCP was smart they'd implement features that actually, and this is the really super hard really complex part, makes them MONEY! OMG wow crazy concept.
So buy Boosters. CCP makes money, and you can earn your new skills faster. No respecs necessary.
Win-win. |
Tharak Meuridiar
The Empyrean Agency
108
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:04:00 -
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F1RST19 wrote:Signed 100%
I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or **** off. Take your **** somewhere else....
I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..
I want my respec....
Anyone who asks for a respec EVER is entirely missing the point of this kind of skill system. You have unlimited SP, no skill locks you out of other skills.
This isn't a game where you make 1 build and respec every time something alters it effectiveness. If you want a new build then earn the SP and spec into it. People shouldn't be able to entirely remap their characters every time CCP farts. Especially not people with 10 million SP. Suck it up buttercup. |
dday3six
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
42
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:59:00 -
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Tharak Meuridiar wrote:F1RST19 wrote:Signed 100%
I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or **** off. Take your **** somewhere else....
I have 10mill skills into **** that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a **** ton of stuff..
I want my respec.... Anyone who asks for a respec EVER is entirely missing the point of this kind of skill system. You have unlimited SP, no skill locks you out of other skills. This isn't a game where you make 1 build and respec every time something alters it effectiveness. If you want a new build then earn the SP and spec into it. People should be able to entirely remap their characters every time CCP farts. Especially not people with 10 million SP. Suck it up buttercup.
10 million SP bearly scratches the surface of maximizing a specialization, and while it's true a player can stop at Advanced gear and move on to something else, they're hindering themselves by doing so whenever they face someone in Proto.
That's really what the issue is about. Players must spend months accruing SP to compete against a large pool of players who are already in Proto gear. There is nothing else to do in Dust other then Public PvP matches at the moment, meaning that players must spend those aforementioned months playing against what is currently a large pool of players who run in squads and all use Proto gear. The cost of trying something new is a longer duration of subjection to public match coniditions in which newer players are utterly out matched by those with better gear. This I feel stifles player desire to diversify, and even causes them to flock to flavor of the month strategies because they're "safer".
While I don't think respecs should be overly frequent something around 1 or 2 a year, with an additional AUR limited option as well. I believe they would be good for the health of game and for player retention. I understand this badge of honor ideal players, many whom come from Eve, have with regards to sticking though it. I just don't think it's going to work for Dust as well. The game has less to do content wise, and is a free to play business model. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3051
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Posted - 2013.07.05 06:10:00 -
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Nix Vulken wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Nix Vulken wrote:This needs to be an option, make it cost isk, make it cost aur, make it cost $10, I don't care just make it happen! +1 Fine... $50,000 USD In Cash (no check or credit) Personally delivered to CCP headquarters. You pay for travel expenses. Wait 6 months for processing. For One Respec. Don't be stupid respecing is something common in every kind of rpg related game and not all of us spam them, I myself have never had one, I emailed CCP months ago and was skipped over for the respec last month. But instead of throwing a tantrum I'm just being realistic. If CCP was smart they'd implement features that actually, and this is the really super hard really complex part, makes them MONEY! OMG wow crazy concept.
Eve Online is a role-playing game but they don't have a respect system. Respecs are frowned upon in New Eden. |
Icy TIG3R
Red Star. EoN.
442
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Posted - 2013.07.05 06:50:00 -
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THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE. |
Tharak Meuridiar
The Empyrean Agency
110
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:03:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE.
No. But it uses a nearly identical skill system. The "nearly every RPG" he is referring to is WoW and it's 5 billion clones, which run on a system so different it's barely comparable.
Respeccing in DUST or EVE would be like if other games allowed you to create an entirely new character with the same amount of XP. It's now like switching from healing priest to DPS priest. It's like switching from priest to rogue, and then to warlock on the next patch. But it even goes further than that because advanced characters have many roles trained.
If they allowed frequent respeccing you would see vets max out every flavor of the month build with every patch. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
154
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:22:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE.
True.
But, it is new Eden. And it is CCP. And they have said no more respecs. And there is no SP cap. And we all know the game will get continual upgrades and new content.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
162
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:52:00 -
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