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Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:25:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:After everything is in it might be a good idea. dunno about that but after core content surely. Everything will never be in. The core content is already in, and they already had a respec. So Winmatar heavy skill is in? where is it willing to pay 2 mil for it Again, how did you determine Miny Heavies as "core" content? How do you differeciate "core" from "non-core" in such a way that it prevents future players from having the same problem you have now without making respecs a commonplace?
How would you not consider all racial variants of the basic frame to not be core? I can see specializations not going with that logic, but every race should have it's entry for the basic suits. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:52:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:
How would you not consider all racial variants of the basic frame to not be core? I can see specializations not going with that logic, but every race should have it's entry for the basic suits.
Will MTACS be "specializations" in your opinion and if yes, why? Aren't MTACS, jets and whatever new stuff we get in the next years going to be the "core" stuff for some players just as the various suits, HAVs and DSs are for you right now? That's getting hyperbolic, but actually, yes. I'd like to see the base versions of each vehicle and dropsuit size introduced (MTACS are hav specs though, so no, they don't qualify), then a single respec. The weapon tree becomes abit to extensive to wait for and we don't want this becoming habitual.
Malkai Inos wrote:You either won't solve the central issue you pretend to address ( the fact that some people can not train the stuff they want) for anyone but those playing right now (read: you) or effectively demand respecs every few months. No, there is a big misunderstanding here. Core content isn't defined by what people want to play. It's the base set of options from which all the others are built. Just because I run assault doesn't make that the bade medium suit. That is what the medium frames are for.
Malkai Inos wrote:I find both unacceptable. I will not condone respecs now just so that others will make the same demand a little later. I will not accept regular respecs for reasons that have been exhausted countless times. I've never asked for or advocated regular respecs, just the prioritization of certain base game elements and a final respec to allow people to play their style without excess waste or just doing nothing with their skills for an indefinite period of time. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:55:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:
I already answered this.
Koblaka1 wrote: MTACs equal no because there are no variants out already. There is a hevay variant amarr.
edit: I also only condone the SP in Heavy Suits be refunded everything else should stay put. IE Core upgrades and shield extension DO NOT get refunded. ] I can tell you right now that the players that will face the same issue as you do currently will not care a bit about the fact that MTACS where not released by the time the last respec will have been granted and gone. Especially since the only difference between "get's a respec" and "get's no respec" is just the time it got released. From the future player's viewpoint, the situation will be just the same unless CCP actually manages to release content racially symmetrical from now on and i'm pretty sure this is not going to happen. Limiting it to the tree in question is helpfull, i agree. That's not my issue right now though.
Difference is that they can get their foot in the door with vehicle gameplay now while working up to the point of going into the MTAC later and still have their SP apply by virtue of prerequisites. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 17:33:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:THIS IS NOT F******* EVE ONLINE.
Actually yes, it kind of is. Skill system, currencies, loss of assets upon death, fitting system, learning implants (boosters)...
Yeah, this pretty much is eve on the ground. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 19:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Meta game. Don't forget meta game and AWOXing. This. Who needs PvE, stable servers, proper hit detection, full racial variants, a variety of game modes, actual meaning to your choices, relative balance between weapons and dropsuits, clear roles for dropsuits, proper reward systems, functioning vehicles. Thank God we have kids who AFK in other peoples game. WOO META!!
Because Meta game and in game improvements/content updates are mutually exclusive right? |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 19:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Meta game. Don't forget meta game and AWOXing. This. Who needs PvE, stable servers, proper hit detection, full racial variants, a variety of game modes, actual meaning to your choices, relative balance between weapons and dropsuits, clear roles for dropsuits, proper reward systems, functioning vehicles. Thank God we have kids who AFK in other peoples game. WOO META!! Because Meta game and in game improvements/content updates are mutually exclusive right? I'm just saying it's pretty sad to use Metagame as any form of justification for anything when we haven't even gone into official release yet.
That feels like it's taking things in the wrong context here. Really it was a further similarity to Eve he was expounding on, not a justification for missing content, bugs, performance issues and such. I would like to think that we can all agree on things like PvE, aiming, bugs, suits and other concerns being important, though we may prioritize them differently and I believe neither of us meant to say the things we listed are in any way a substitute for that. |
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