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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:42:00 -
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People just want to feel like their decisions matter.
They don't.
The only thing that matters is how well you can predict CCPs balancing tendencies, and how well you can build around those predictions.
You aren't a special snowflake for having a good build. No one cares if you don't need a respec cuz you're hardcore EVE. Offering methods to alter your build is vital in an FPS, but spreadsheet masters have yet to grasp this concept. |
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:50:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:I think when new racial variants of a suit come out, e.g. Heavy, Commando and Scout, players should get back the SP they put into the racial suit that was available before the update. For example, if I had Advanced Amarr Sentinel and Caldari Sentinel was released, I should be refunded the SP I put into Amarr Sentinel to allow me to switch to the Caldari Sentinel.
And if people are afraid that people won't put that SP into the new suit, CCP has shown that they can go right into your account and mess around with your assets. They could let us submit help tickets, and have a GM go into our account, swap the skills for the right one, and if they're really nice, they can exchange the suits for the proper ones (if I have 100 standard, advanced, and proto Amarr suits, then switched to Gallente, I would have all those suits switched over to Gallente)
And this is strictly because they are the base suits that should have been in the game at release, and punishing players for playing a playstyle that CCP didn't actually finish is just stupid. |
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Posted - 2013.07.05 17:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Meta game. Don't forget meta game and AWOXing.
This.
Who needs PvE, stable servers, proper hit detection, full racial variants, a variety of game modes, actual meaning to your choices, relative balance between weapons and dropsuits, clear roles for dropsuits, proper reward systems, functioning vehicles.
Thank God we have kids who AFK in other peoples game.
WOO META!! |
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Posted - 2013.07.05 19:26:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Meta game. Don't forget meta game and AWOXing. This. Who needs PvE, stable servers, proper hit detection, full racial variants, a variety of game modes, actual meaning to your choices, relative balance between weapons and dropsuits, clear roles for dropsuits, proper reward systems, functioning vehicles. Thank God we have kids who AFK in other peoples game. WOO META!! Because Meta game and in game improvements/content updates are mutually exclusive right?
I'm just saying it's pretty sad to use Metagame as any form of justification for anything when we haven't even gone into official release yet. |
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:04:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Once again, you are forgetting that CCP already confirmed that there are no more respecs in the future. They have already made up their mind on this. It's just not going to happen so I see no point in this discussion if CCP is not going to hand out more respecs. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&p=3If you look at the post from 7/4 on page 3 you'll notice Skill Back Boosters are going to be further discussed by the Dev Team. CCP doesn't seem to be as straight up "no" to respec as you think. Also just because you're tired of telling people "no", and are threating to quit both Eve Online and Dust if some form of respecs are added doesn't mean players can't have a discussion about respecs. This is after all a forum mention for discussion.
Good man. |
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:36:00 -
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Respecs (or a skill adjustment system) certainly wouldn't hurt booster sales, if anything, it would boost them.
It's as if people think that someone's going to be willing to drop actual cash on boosters if they know that should they screw up at all, or get bored, or their build gets patched or nerfed out of existence, or the controls change in such a way as to make playing that playstyle frustrating or un enjoyable, that they'll have completely wasted their money.
I for one think people would be much more likely to spend their money if they knew they'd have some way to alter their choices or use their SP in different ways later on down the line.
I don't care either way, I'm for a gradual SP refund system, personally, but it doesn't matter much to me either way |
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