After everything is in it might be a good idea.

So Winmatar heavy skill is in? where is it willing to pay 2 mil for it

Haha more of this silly concept of SP respecs. You must be a special kind of stupid to think the CCP will give out another respec just because you hate your build and want the 'flavor of the month/week'.

They already stated that it won't happen. Get over it.

This game is about consequences to the choices and actions you all make just like in EvE because, guess what. This is an EvE game to.

You made your bed. Now lie in it or grind like I am doing.

Again, how did you determine Miny Heavies as "core" content? How do you differeciate "core" from "non-core" in such a way that it prevents future players from having the same problem you have now without making respecs a commonplace?

Again, how did you determine Miny Heavies as "core" content? How do you differentiate "core" from "non-core" in such a way that it prevents future players from having the same problem you have now without making respecs a commonplace?

I HAVE to spec amarr to play heavy, how is that a choice? Militia for the next year by your standards that'll keep people coming back...

How about you buy some boosters then on the market if you're SO keen to get there asap? Really, get over yourself as there are plenty of people in the same situation but harden up and do the SP grind because in the end, it will be worth it.

I'll be building up the SP when CCP releases heavy shield suits AND I'll work on the heavy weapons. Until then I'll be improving my CPU/Powergrid, shields, AR etc etc.

Don't like it? quit.

How would you not consider all racial variants of the basic frame to not be core? I can see specializations not going with that logic, but every race should have it's entry for the basic suits.

Will MTACS be "specializations" in your opinion and if yes, why? Aren't MTACS, jets and whatever new stuff we get in the next years going to be the "core" stuff for some players just as the various suits, HAVs and DSs are for you right now?

You either won't solve the central issue you pretend to address ( the fact that some people can not train the stuff they want) for anyone but those playing right now (read: you) or effectively demand respecs every few months.

I find both unacceptable. I will not condone respecs now just so that others will make the same demand a little later. I will not accept regular respecs for reasons that have been exhausted countless times.

So you dont play Heavy now then i take it? So in other words you are giving yourself options. HMM must be nice since you go tthe suit you wanted already

edit: I don't need to quit its F2P im not buying more aurem unless i get my respec (FOR ONLY SP SPENT IN HEAVY SUITS) how you like them apples hardass :P

Umm 4 races of Light, medium, and heavy suits. Again Medium Frame guys not getting it because they have all their stuff...

Haha more of this silly concept of SP respecs. You must be a special kind of stupid to think the CCP will give out another respec just because you hate your build and want the 'flavor of the month/week'.

They already stated that it won't happen. Get over it.

This game is about consequences to the choices and actions you all make just like in EvE because, guess what. This is an EvE game to.

You made your bed. Now lie in it or grind like I am doing.

Actually I bought the Elite pack, some BPOs on the market and tested all the build I wanted then decided on what I wanted.

You're not answering my question i'm afraid so let me rephrase it: How is it fair that you get your respec to your favourite heavy variant and at the same time the next KOBLAKA1 will not be allowed to respec into his favourite MTAC variant in a year or so.

The issue is the same in both cases. You would have to tell the next KOBLAKA1 to HTFU just as we keep telling you now. You will have gotten what you wanted by that time, just as i have now.

Why is this fair?

MTACs equal no because there are no variants out already. There is a hevay variant amarr.

edit: I also only condone the SP in Heavy Suits be refunded everything else should stay put. IE Core upgrades and shield extension DO NOT get refunded. ]

Will MTACS be "specializations" in your opinion and if yes, why? Aren't MTACS, jets and whatever new stuff we get in the next years going to be the "core" stuff for some players just as the various suits, HAVs and DSs are for you right now?

You either won't solve the central issue you pretend to address ( the fact that some people can not train the stuff they want) for anyone but those playing right now (read: you) or effectively demand respecs every few months.

I find both unacceptable. I will not condone respecs now just so that others will make the same demand a little later. I will not accept regular respecs for reasons that have been exhausted countless times.

I already answered this.

I can tell you right now that the players that will face the same issue as you do currently will not care a bit about the fact that MTACS where not released by the time the last respec will have been granted and gone. Especially since the only difference between "get's a respec" and "get's no respec" is just the time it got released. From the future player's viewpoint, the situation will be just the same unless CCP actually manages to release content racially symmetrical from now on and i'm pretty sure this is not going to happen.

Limiting it to the tree in question is helpfull, i agree. That's not my issue right now though.

I can tell you right now that the players that will face the same issue as you do currently will not care a bit about the fact that MTACS where not released by the time the last respec will have been granted and gone. Especially since the only difference between "get's a respec" and "get's no respec" is just the time it got released. From the future player's viewpoint, the situation will be just the same unless CCP actually manages to release content racially symmetrical from now on and i'm pretty sure this is not going to happen.

Limiting it to the tree in question is helpfull, i agree. That's not my issue right now though.

That's getting hyperbolic, but actually, yes. I'd like to see the base versions of each vehicle and dropsuit size introduced (MTACS are hav specs though, so no, they don't qualify), then a single respec. The weapon tree becomes abit to extensive to wait for and we don't want this becoming habitual.

No, there is a big misunderstanding here. Core content isn't defined by what people want to play. It's the base set of options from which all the others are built. Just because I run assault doesn't make that the base medium suit. That is what the medium frames are for.

I've never asked for or advocated regular respecs, just the prioritization of certain base game elements and a final respec to allow people to play their style without excess waste or just doing nothing with their skills for an indefinite period of time.

no respecs,. no way

In new eden you "grow" your toon like a plant. Get used to it,..

no respecs,. no way

In new eden you "grow" your toon like a plant. Get used to it,..

This game is dying, get used to it.

too bad i was forced on what seeds to use, must be nice having options in your medium frame