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Icy TIG3R Red Star. EoN. 397	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:29:00 - [1] - Quote Signed.
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 94	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:30:00 - [2] - Quote *Updated Racial content- Rifles/Suits/vehicles (Heavy, Scout, LAV, HAV, dropship) Not new stuff like commando suits/pilot suits
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1194	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:33:00 - [3] - Quote hahaha, good luck with that
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3004	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:47:00 - [4] - Quote No.
Nalhe Saldana Forsaken Immortals 22	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:50:00 - [5] - Quote No, respecs is only for when they mess around with the skills themselves and I'm not talking rebalancing.
F1RST19 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:53:00 - [6] - Quote Signed 100% I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or ** off. Take your somewhere else.... I have 10mill skills into that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a ** ton of stuff.. I want my respec....
Spec Ops Cipher Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 119	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:53:00 - [7] - Quote No.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1194	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:01:00 - [8] - Quote F1RST19 wrote: Signed 100% I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or ** off. Take your somewhere else.... I have 10mill skills into that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a ** ton of stuff.. I want my respec.... People all over the world want stuff man.
F1RST19 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:05:00 - [9] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: F1RST19 wrote: Signed 100% I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or ** off. Take your somewhere else.... I have 10mill skills into that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a ** ton of stuff.. I want my respec.... People all over the world want stuff man. Oh really!!! I did not know that
Poonmunch Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 28	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:06:00 - [10] - Quote +1 Absolutely. Munch

Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 157	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:08:00 - [11] - Quote I'll sign. I understand people's arguments about specializing and all, but until they stop rebalancing things so much I'm too scared to to spec into anything for fear it will get nerfed right after. That's why I only run standard and sometimes advanced.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 137	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:20:00 - [12] - Quote I give up.... I totally give up. It's like being in Groundhog Day with the respec requests. No matter how many threads are started there is always another one right around the corner. If only I had a 'respec' button in life..... so that when I screw something up instead of learning from my mistake I can just 'undo' it. That would be sweet. Can I get one of those? CCP, how about it? Can you make me a rewind button...? Talk to God, do what you gotta do. Life keeps changing on me. It's not fair, this is BS - CCP. This version of life.... nobody told me it wasn't a beta anymore..... I didn't realize I should pay attention in school.... Do it now or I'll just bug you about it tomorrow..... CCP, WTF, rewind my ****! (PS, we'll leave when you stop asking for respecs)
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 514	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:31:00 - [13] - Quote F1RST19 wrote: Signed 100% I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or ** off. Take your somewhere else.... I have 10mill skills into that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a ton of stuff.. I want my respec.... Seriously dude? I just posted links to a number of well versed reasons why respecs are bad; in that other thread on the same subject that you posted in, yet you keep insisting that no one gives legit information? In case you're just blind rather than dishonest i'll post it here again for you. Cross Atu wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: Cross Atu wrote:** To all Mercs in support of respecs please read and respond to in detail my posts #19 & #92. In this thread. As well as post #14 by Malkai Inos. There's a lot of ground to cover and the issues presented within those posts (as well as other posts in that thread) really do require an address before any such idea should be considered for adoption into the game. Cheers, Cross FYI you can link directly to the post by clicking the post number. I'll link the posts you mentioned here, here, and here to make it easier for anyone interested. The above covers standard concerns related to unlimited respec (aka all respec that do not have a specific hard cap on total lifetime number). I look forward to your reply regarding the concerns raised in the quoted links. Cheers, Cross
Amorale Lyadstafer Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 16	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:37:00 - [14] - Quote Signed, a final respec after they will add all the missing stuff (Heavies, missing rifles etc)
Bob Teller The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 9	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:40:00 - [15] - Quote F1RST19 wrote: Signed 100% I dont see why other people are not agreeing but giving legit information on to not have another respec... How about you get lost and or ** off. Take your somewhere else.... I have 10mill skills into that I didnt want before because the stuff I had was broken, having another opportunity to have a respec is all we need... After this update... I mean this update is literally a game changer. fixed a ** ton of stuff.. I want my respec.... Well guess what?................................................................................................................................................you're not getting it.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4320	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:42:00 - [16] - Quote People just want to feel like their decisions matter. They don't. The only thing that matters is how well you can predict CCPs balancing tendencies, and how well you can build around those predictions. You aren't a special snowflake for having a good build. No one cares if you don't need a respec cuz you're hardcore EVE. Offering methods to alter your build is vital in an FPS, but spreadsheet masters have yet to grasp this concept.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 518	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:43:00 - [17] - Quote Signed it only makes sense. I'd rather have a flourishing player base than 15 hardcore Eve junkies with .78 KDRs.
Amarrian Desperado Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:48:00 - [18] - Quote I'd like a laser-guided respec for the content that isn't in the game yet when its released Rail rifles/combat rifles get added, get a refund only from skills in the assault rifle skill tree to re-apply to your preferred racial weapon Other 3 heavy dropsuits finally get added, get a refund only from skills the Amarr Heavy tree re-apply to your preferred racial dropsuit Because why should the slaves be stuck with millions of skillpoints in Glorious Amarr heavy suits, defiling them with the motor oil soaked, smog spewing HMG, because they had no other choice? But none of this "CCP is nerfing my favorite toy so please let me completely rebuild my character" bull****
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 188	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:48:00 - [19] - Quote If I can't convince CCP to let me purchase one with ISK or Aurum, I may as well petition for a free one. If for no reason other than to aggravate the neckbeards if it goes through. Signed.
flesth Red Star. EoN. 37	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:49:00 - [20] - Quote well, signed , btw it do no harm is there ? i don't see any rules about it, just add reset button for some fee , isk or aur , i don't care what others say, 40,000 aur or what ever i do it 400,000isk or what ever i do it

xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 455	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:54:00 - [21] - Quote No, it will just be a flavor of the month game if this happens. Not having respecs gives diversity to each character.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 520	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:57:00 - [22] - Quote flesth wrote: well, signed , btw it do no harm is there ? i don't see any rules about it, just add reset button for some fee , isk or aur , i don't care what others say, 40,000 aur or what ever i do it 400,000isk or what ever i do it The ONLY logical explanation I've seen from people is that they believe people will flock to whatever is OP after a rebalance. I don't see it that way. There are some things that are just plain bad and don't get addressed in a timely manner because they are busy working on other things. Could you imagine being spec'd into laser rifles or assault dropshits right now? To expect people to stick with this game if they aren't enjoying it is, well.... stupid. To WANT people to go through that is, well... dickish
hooc roht Deep Space Republic Top Men. 187	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:05:00 - [23] - Quote signed With matchmaking SP will become irrelevant. Why desperately clutch to this last hold out of crap game design from a bygone era.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3005	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:36:00 - [24] - Quote No legit information? You actually think that no one gave legit information on why respecs are bad? You are a special kind of ignorant aren't you? Search the damn forums. The economics. The data CCP needs for balancing weapons and things. etc. These and many others are legit reasons why CCP publicly announced no more respecs. Quit your damn request for more respecs because CCP has already made up their mind about it. No more respecs. Period. People need to get their heads out of their asses.
DS 10 G I A N T EoN. 513	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:45:00 - [25] - Quote I kinda sorta agree-ish. I think when new racial variants of a suit come out, e.g. Heavy, Commando and Scout, players should get back the SP they put into the racial suit that was available before the update. For example, if I had Advanced Amarr Sentinel and Caldari Sentinel was released, I should be refunded the SP I put into Amarr Sentinel to allow me to switch to the Caldari Sentinel. People say to be patient, and I have 0 SP in Amarr Sentinel so this doesn't really affect me at all, but there was a respec when Assaults and Logis got all their suits. It would only be fair for Heavies, Scouts, and Commandos to get one as well. As far as respecs for all skills, no.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4354	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:50:00 - [26] - Quote DS 10 wrote: I think when new racial variants of a suit come out, e.g. Heavy, Commando and Scout, players should get back the SP they put into the racial suit that was available before the update. For example, if I had Advanced Amarr Sentinel and Caldari Sentinel was released, I should be refunded the SP I put into Amarr Sentinel to allow me to switch to the Caldari Sentinel. And if people are afraid that people won't put that SP into the new suit, CCP has shown that they can go right into your account and mess around with your assets. They could let us submit help tickets, and have a GM go into our account, swap the skills for the right one, and if they're really nice, they can exchange the suits for the proper ones (if I have 100 standard, advanced, and proto Amarr suits, then switched to Gallente, I would have all those suits switched over to Gallente) And this is strictly because they are the base suits that should have been in the game at release, and punishing players for playing a playstyle that CCP didn't actually finish is just stupid.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 847	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:00:00 - [27] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: Signed. NO, Respecs are over. There will always be new content coming in to Dust. Be smart, bank your Sp and diversify.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 564	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:05:00 - [28] - Quote Amen. No respecs is so boring. And the only tier that matters in this game is proto. If CCP expects that any more than the 4000 people currently playing this game will be happy with grinding 3 months for every new gun they want to try... yep... GL with your dying game. At this point... monthly free respecs will actually save this game more than it would ever hurt it. more SP will always be better, as you can spec into multiple items and switch on the fly. **** the RPG aspects, let this just be a decent FPS.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 261	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:19:00 - [29] - Quote Signed.
Kiro Justice Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 176	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:31:00 - [30] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Amen. No respecs is so boring. And the only tier that matters in this game is proto. If CCP expects that any more than the 4000 people currently playing this game will be happy with grinding 3 months for every new gun they want to try... yep... GL with your dying game. At this point... monthly free respecs will actually save this game more than it would ever hurt it. more SP will always be better, as you can spec into multiple items and switch on the fly. **** the RPG aspects, let this just be a decent FPS. You're very stupid.



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