ccp why have you made armor faster than shield you took away the only advantage caldari tanks had. and tanks no longer make sense it makes 0 sense that armor moves faster than shield the only advatage gone. maddy now trump gunlogi's in every way they are faster have more hp the wep that is effective vs them was nerfer swarm,and they can go under hardeners for a full minute while we get 10 secs

Why do whiners always forget the massive damage advantage Shield HAV's enjoy (lows can be filled with damage mods, Armour tanks can't really sacrifice their low slots) when whining about the differences between the HAV's?

Because Armor slows you down and shield doesen't.

you are wrong sadly we cannot now caldaris have to have powergrid upgrades in both lows to function with decent turrents try again

And Gallente HAV's don't have PG problems?

Having to use loads of fitting mods to fit all proto guns and HP mods, really, do you expect any different??

It's the same for Armour tanks.

again as i said i did not start this thread to discuss pg issues i started this thread to discuss speed my tank fittings are adjusted to uprising and i know what you can and cannot do with a madrugar

It actually does, but shields are more resilient than armor, and caldari being range based they don't value speed

clearly your not a caldari tanker as any caldari hav driver you ask will tell you originally the attraction to caldari was speed

in CHROMOSOME if you play dust at all any caldari tanker would have told you that they're advantages over gallente was speed and dmg vs gallentes resilience and damage because gallente can use rails 2 and missiles were worthless. the only other advatage was we could fit one of our low powered on the gunlogi with dmg mod ...so 2 advatages
1 speed
2 dmg
both gone. while half the tanking world quit and the majority of the remaining tankers switched to gallente because its better in all aspects. and then there is the few who stayed caldari who have no purpose left in dust and are waiting for a damn respec hoping that before the respec by some miracle ccp fixes this

so plates should be weaker and give a speed penalty on top of that? that would make plates worthless and would make the tank ment for the frontlines that much weaker...... even with the gallente tank being faster its still slow accelerating and being even weaker than it currently is would just make it free points points for all the AV nades....

before the hp buff my madrugar couldnt even survive 3 hacked EX-0 AV grenades with base shields full 4.7k armor and 26% damage resistance im not sure how well it would survive it now since i tend to try gunning players down from a distance now and players arent using as many of their hacked EX-0 even tho i know tons of players stocked up by the 1000s

we should all quit crying for the other race's vehicles to get nerfed and instead focus on trying to get CCP to buff them to where they are worth the crazy high pricetags they come with