and ill say this again in eve your in space with 0 gravity where 6 ton armor plates weigh nothing at all but ona planet with gravity weight effects speed idc why they did it that combined with starving tankers of pg to force caldari hav user to specialize in they're ****** missiles has ruined the entire specialization.

Are you so daft I have to repeat myself? It does affect speed in Eve otherwise everything would go the same speed. It's not starving, it's you overfitting without a decent amount of skills in fitting. If you haven't noticed it's easy to fit railguns and missiles on a shield tank but hard to fit blasters and vice versa for armor because those weapons are meant for shield tanks, being cpu intensive unlike blasters which are pg intensive. Missiles aren't **** at all, they wreck blasters at a range and rails up close. And I know plenty who use missiles only.

i have to agree the missiles are almost where they need to be my only problem with them is shots that shoulda hit atleast with splash wont always hit

as far as the speed thing goes it isnt specificly the armor thats faster its the race that made the tank gallente are users of short range weapons so they need the speed to be able to catch their targets they just happen to prefer armor over shields the only thing that really makes sense is since gallente needs the speed to catch their enemys they use more powerful engines than other races just like shotguners use scout suits to move faster to get into the range they need

caldari prefering long range engagements dont have a specific need for speed they rather fire from a distance and let their large shields absorb and repair what little damage they take

ccp why have you made armor faster than shield

They didn't.

Fastest to Slowest:

Minmatar - Shield, Fastest
Gallente - Armor, Fast
Caldari - Shield, Tanky
Amarr - Armor, Tankiest (In Dust, they are broken. OmniTank? Dafuq?)

In general, armor tankers are slower than shield tankers. If ALL armor tankers were slower than ALL shield tankers, that would just be unbalanced. All armor tankers would be forced into being slow and brutish.

Leave Brittany ALONE!

You're b*tching about me insulting you yet you calles me an ass? Missiles aren't s*** at all you're probably to stupid to aim them. You didn't even actually say anything about the speed comparisons, are you really that idiotic. If it wasn't mean to be in comparison to Eve, both caldari and gallente tanks could easily armor tank with a similar hp. I would call you a ****** but even the mentally handicapped make more sense than you.

Missiles Turrets are very unreliable and ineffective, you'd be ignorant to think they're completely fine as they are right now . When you're using missile turrets, you never know if you're going to get a kill or not. When i point my blaster turret at someone, i KNOW i'm going to hit them.

Missiles Turrets are very unreliable and ineffective, you'd be ignorant to think they're completely fine as they are right now . When you're using missile turrets, you never know if you're going to get a kill or not. When i point my blaster turret at someone, i KNOW i'm going to hit them.

dropsuits caldari and gallente same speeds, LAVs same speed, dropship, same speed. so where is your point showing up?

I haven't personally tried large missile turrets but with smalls, I tend to get more kills with missiles than blasters. No missile tank pilot I know has any complaints about large missiles and at most by the second volley their target is downwhich is quite a bit more reliable than large rails, however I don't think they should match blasters in close range purely because of how much farther they can reach.

Believe me, they're very inconsistent. You have to try it for yourself to really understand what i'm talking about. Like i said before, missile turrets are unreliable from ALL ranges. The fire interval on missile is so slow that armor tanks can run to safety before i can even knock their shields down. Long-range tactics do NOT work with missile turrets.

Since I've made the switch to blaster turrets on my Gunloggi, i'm getting a lot more kills and i die a lot less often too.

The way I've seen them used is very similar to blasters but with better sustained fire, more range, and more single shot damage. Even though I didn't plan on it I may train an alt into missile tanks. I see missiles as a bit like rockets in Eve, dumb fire with decent damage and quick travel but trades damage for range in comparison to blasters.

In my opinion it not only resembles Eve closer (the condor and atron, both fast frigates have similar speed while the raven and megathron have a larger gap) it makes a larger difference with Havs in my opinion or it could be in the process of being changed.

They're not even better in those ways, caldari has plenty of damage mod room, higher resists, passive regeneration, and handling. Just because gallente is more pg oriented that doesn't make it better. And where did I say they all habe the same speed? It just becomes more noticeable in larger subcaps.

caldari 2 low slots
gallente 5 low slots

damage mods go in low slots so bs?

Stacking penalties. That is all.

Damage mods in low slots on a gallente tank = sh*t fit ohk by a forge gun. Shield hardeners don't last as long but give higher resists than armor, so none of your points have are remotely accurate off paper. Also, that tiny recharge is better than being SOL in a pure buffer armor tank.

so what it effect them both equally

I don't think you understand how stacking penalties work...